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Why was merc banned?

  • 02-03-2004 3:56pm
    #1
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Since the purpose of the ban was to prevent disruption of yet another thread on this forum, it seems best to make sure that discussion of the ban doesn't have the same effect.
    Post edited by Shield on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Originally posted by ecksor
    Banned for a week.
    If you want I can start another thread on this, but can you answer me this: Why was amp banned? I thought that the "New Guidelines" had been dropped, with intervention from Dev. Or am I missing something here?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    I wondered the same thing myself...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    amp and ecksor have been at handbags for aaaages.

    Regarding the first post:
    Meh, nice idea, verging on the impossible to implement. The amount of wrist slapping, bannings etc neccesary to enforce this would be gigantic and, considering the amount of newbies who sign up and proceed to post without as much as glancing at the rules, never-ending. The 'problem' is nowhere near bad enough to require all that work, in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭yellum


    Originally posted by Hobart
    Or am I missing something here?

    Sense of humour ?

    I assumed it was a joke about his over-reacting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Probably because of the contents of these two posts:

    Ecksor and DeVore


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Sigh.

    Week ban seems fine as it was two posts into a thread about a totally different topic. Sorry, but anyone dragging stuff off topic so that they can have a laugh is not allowed. Not even for amp. :)

    If this had been some cat fight between Ecksor and Amp (gosh, could anyone imagine such a thing) then I might feel alot more sympathy and have stepped in but while Ecksor may have been gunning for him, Amp stuck a big "shoot me" sign on his head and got shot. *SURPRISE*

    I think we should have a forum called the Ampy and Ecksy Show... each week one of them can be the mod and do evil things to the other.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Mysterio


    Thank god it wasn't dragged off topic as it's such an vitally important thread.

    I'm confused however by the fact that Trojan wasn't banned or was he being serious when he said:

    "This thread should be titled something more specific, like "Stop people posting vague subject lines on PI and AH on Tuesdays"."
    while Ecksor may have been gunning for him

    If ecksor is banning people for personal reasons then does that mean the other moderators can do that to? It seems to set a disturbing example.

    I'm sorry to intervene in this and I know I'm about to be banned for being a troll account but it'd be interesting to hear some views on this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    because looking at the thread, Trojan made a point about the subject, you were just having a go.

    Take it like a man Amp. ;)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    He appears to have moved his protest to here.

    For the record, I thought that ban was several weeks overdue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    09: The registration form for creating an account on boards is expanded to include the following things:

    Gender
    Breast size
    Phone number
    A test measuring the ability to make people laugh
    A biometric dna test
    LOL..... the whole thing was a good read... funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Hahahaa.....Im just reminded of amp moaning on the the 'why was utility' banned thread....irony.....delicious....

    P.s

    Down with Ecksor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by ecksor
    For the record, I thought that ban was several weeks overdue.
    Because...?

    (Pure curiosity)


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    Similar antics on forum suggestion threads causing them to turn into flame-fests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭ykt0di9url7bc3


    Don't be silly, this plague on F/B demanded a radical solution from Captain Freedom! Defending newbies and troll accounts wherever he goes!

    Personally I will be ignoring this nonsense. I look forward to my first banning.

    as harsh as that was...it was in response to the breaking of ecks's new rules...

    Here's a quasi-mathmatical summary:

    ecksor bizarre announcement = amp questioning* announcement + DeV telling us both to be good children and behave.

    Now if we remove the left hand side of this quasi-equation then the other side of the equation ceases to exist. QED

    *replace questioning with sharp wit and disgust




    knowing my opinion on the matter is worthless *ie can can change nothing


    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    After much thread reviewing, I have come to the conclusion that there can be only one resolution*

    Without conflict there can be no progress.






























    *amp for Administrator


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    in fairness that was one of his more subtle remarks hes made (if he is capable of such), but he still broke the rules and must be dealt with for such.

    besides the fact that he broke the rule this time, he has been at it for a long time, and he publicly announced how he was going to ignore the forum rules and was looking forward to being banned. I guess he got his wish so... I wonder what would happen if I or you announced how we were going to ignore the forum rules in games, and then post an insulting comment directed at Amp

    Flogen


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Hang on... there are NO NEW RULES on forum suggestion threads. AFAIK things progress as they ever did. Or did everyone just forget that I'm hanging around here too :)

    I would have banned amp too to be blunt. He brought his personal argument with another user bluntly and blatantly into a thread that was 2 posts old. Sorry but amp is a long time moderator and knows that thats not on. He/you recently banned people (quite rightly and I supported it) from Humanities for continuing a discussion after he told them to drop it and that was in the same thread. Whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

    If he wanted to do it properly he could have started a "I'm not happy with Ecksors adminning because: " thread, thats "feedback". Parachuting this personal argument into a perfectly reasonable thread like some sort of fist-fight brawl roaming from bar to bar in the The Quiet Man is not the way.

    Sorry, I dont doubt that Ecksor shot you as soon as you put a toe over the line because you two seem to have some sort of píssing contest going. Maybe he laughed and sang songs while he did it too.... I dunno. But I think you knew that that was a "needle" the size of The Spire and decided your (plural) little war was too much fun to have end so soon.

    Come on amp, dont tell me you are "shocked and sickened" that you got banned, you knew you would when you wrote that :p:p

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Well I'm glad that that's all cleared up so.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Oh if only that were true... if only I could believe that...

    *clicks ruby slippers together three times*

    DeV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by Mysterio
    If ecksor is banning people for personal reasons then does that mean the other moderators can do that to? It seems to set a disturbing example.

    Nothing new there. Ask amz.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    Originally posted by DeVore
    Sorry, I dont doubt that Ecksor shot you as soon as you put a toe over the line because you two seem to have some sort of píssing contest going.

    If I was going to shoot him as soon as he put a toe over the line he'd have been shot a long time ago. I was trying to avoid such an incident because of people reaching the opinion which you just expressed. In the end that lead to a blind eye been turned to his misbehaviour and also to the abuse which he was prompting from other users. The forum was suffering in my opinion and since my other hamfisted attempt to sort things out wasn't met with any success, this seemed like the only option (and by your own admission, how I should have sorted things out to begin with).

    I didn't actually realise I was parodied until he said so in his signature. Doesn't look very plausible of me to say that now I suppose and I've fallen into the trap of making it look like a personal vendetta :dunno:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Originally posted by Dustaz
    Nothing new there. Ask amz.

    miaow


    >hugz<


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 811 ✭✭✭Ronaldo7


    WOW - Does that mean there is going to be a massive gang fight between Ecskors internet crew and Amp's crew @ the boards beer I keep hearing about? Delicious. Nerd Fights!!!

    WOW!!!

    :p


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    WOW - Does that mean there is going to be a massive gang fight between Ecskors internet crew and Amp's crew @ the boards beer I keep hearing about? Delicious. Nerd Fights!!!

    yeah, its gonna be like Gangs of New York, only without the stupid Oirish accents, without the cool weaponry, with more glasses and greasy hair, without the acting talents of Day Lewis, or the high budget that Scorsese can pull in, or the elaborate set, or the extras, or the violence......

    sounds abit rubbish when you think about it.

    Flogen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    TBH, Amp is right.


    John


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Originally posted by DeVore
    If this had been some cat fight between Ecksor and Amp (gosh, could anyone imagine such a thing)

    yes
    yes I can
    and whats more, I'd pay good money to see it!

    I think we should dress them up is Star Trek uniforms and play that music from the spock/kirk fight (also done on the Cable Guy I believe)

    eck = spock
    amp = kirk
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I'd pay too. Funnier would be to make amp admin, then sit back and wait for the next snowboarding trip.

    The other admins would arrive back to a boards.ie devastated by civil war, starting with half of the moderators standing up and walking out in protest at the decision to give 6 forums to p45.net and culminating in amp being banned from behind while in Cork, and ecksor's supporters seizing control and holding it for 60 years through involuntary illegal voting practices and brown envelopes.

    It'll be great.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    zzzzzzzzzzzz


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭smoke.me.a.kipper


    ban castor troy. not amp. he was right.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    dog_cat.jpg

    LOL
    sorry
    sorry, but all this just makes me laugh :D

    I lurve boards for it's entertainment value ;)


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Originally posted by Beruthiel

    I think we should dress them up is Star Trek uniforms and play that music from the spock/kirk fight (also done on the Cable Guy I believe)

    eck = spock
    amp = kirk
    :D

    Can we have that dramatic music playing too? DEN DEN DEN DAAAA DEDEDE!!!!

    Sorry, finding this a little difficult to take seriously. :)

    I did tell Ecksor that if he had a problem with Amp he should take it up with Amp rather then tying up the Feedback forum with unworkable rules. To be fair, ecksor was trying to legislate rules for accross all users rather then just ban amp. I told him I'd rather he banned a single user then announce unenforceable rules. What I should have added (and this is my error) is that I generally DONT use admin powers when a row involves me. Even if you are being unscrupulously fair you are open to the accusation of bias.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    I dunno, to me it just looks like amp is playing a god given right card. Had it been anyone else I don't think there'd be much notice.

    Personally, I thought the "joke" was a very thinly veiled flame of ecksor, he'd have banned anyone doing the same to him in a forum he modded. I dunno, maybe all the tantrum he's throwing now is allpart of the humour and we're just not getting it.

    It really does look like he's throwing a childish hissy fit for not getting his way. I mean, respect to the guy and all, but the reaction in his journal especially doesn't do him any favours imho.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    Originally posted by Mercury_Tilt
    Hmmm I remember Ecksor banned me from here too! At the time rather than admit to myself, never mind anyone else, that after I had voiced my initial and honest opinions in various Feedback threads over the previous month or two… that once I had made said initial opinions known.. I descended into posting belittling, insulting and inflammatory remarks aimed at various posters in a rather rude/bullying manner(though all the while interjecting with the word “hairbrush” for comic effect)....… which is allegedly why I was banned!!!.. Flaming? Me? No way. Im funny!! The banning was personal cos I had a run in once or twice with the admin!!!!!!.. so I headed of to mount my campaign for the good of all manki…..


    Oh wait, that’s wasn’t me…

    Banned for a week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    Originally posted by Mysterio

    I'm confused however by the fact that Trojan wasn't banned or was he being serious when he said:

    "This thread should be titled something more specific, like "Stop people posting vague subject lines on PI and AH on Tuesdays"."

    Cos it was relevant I guess. I disagreed with the opinion of the original poster, and said so in my usual manner. It was on topic.

    That said, if parody and humour are not allowed in any circumstance then you may as well pull the plug on the server. Or call it boards.de.

    Al.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Originally posted by ecksor
    Banned for a week.

    I thought merc made a point on topic about the why amp was banned thread. He did it in a humourous AND relevant manner!
    Plus, it wasn't going to degnerate into a flame war... amp can't reply (at least not from his main account).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    you know what?

    boring

    zzzzzzzzzzzzz


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    Originally posted by syke
    I thought merc made a point on topic about the why amp was banned thread. He did it in a humourous AND relevant manner!
    Plus, it wasn't going to degnerate into a flame war... amp can't reply (at least not from his main account).

    :rolleyes:

    He was clearly attacking another poster and has a history of unprovoked outbursts on this forum. We have to try to apply the rules evenly and besides, he was just asking to be banned.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Merc and AMp have history.... to be fair Merc did pretty much what Amp did, though it was a little more relevant.

    I dont want humour banned but this isnt really a good place for it though... I have a cunning plan though...

    DeV.

    Anyway, I found Ecksor banning him to be funny so thats ok then. :):)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Originally posted by Trojan
    That said, if parody and humour are not allowed in any circumstance then you may as well pull the plug on the server. Or call it boards.de.

    Al.
    Agreed. This is total overkill and is actually more humorous than the initial banning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭ykt0di9url7bc3


    Originally posted by ecksor
    Banned for a week.



    He was clearly attacking another poster and has a history of unprovoked outbursts on this forum. We have to try to apply the rules evenly and besides, he was just asking to be banned.



    imho the one word to describe those actions is "silly"

    how long before we get slapped around for smileys :p , I havent seen boards turn into Megacity 1 just yet but "teh law" is swift and blind


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    I remember I got banned before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    Originally posted by DeVore
    Merc and AMp have history....
    Merc too? Jeez, amp gets around the boards users, doesn't he?
    Originally posted by DeVore
    I have a cunning plan though...
    Is it more cunning that the fox that was made professor of cunning at Oxford University?

    I still think this is all a mountain out of a molehill. Any other user and noone would have batted an eyelid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Was this thread called "why was amp banned" originally?

    Where's that screen shot wizard when you need him eh


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Originally posted by Gordon
    Was this thread called "why was amp banned" originally?

    yes it was honey
    eck is trying to confuse us all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Originally posted by Gordon
    Was this thread called "why was amp banned" originally?

    Where's that screen shot wizard when you need him eh
    This is why we have GMT time and GMT+ and GMT- times. It was never about amp. It was about you Gordon. I would suggest you go back into that Collosus of yours and start typing in sanscrit(sp?) again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭SheroN


    I demand Gordon and Hobart be banned for taking this thread off topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭bug


    what time is eastenders on at? hang on.. it doesnt matter...


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