UTV prices E29 and E45

bk

UTV have introduced the first sub EUR30 BB product

The details are as so:

CLICKSILVER
Install: €99
Monthly: €29.99
Support: Lo-Call
Cap: 8GB
Modem: FREE^

CLICKSILVER PLUS
Install: €99
Monthly: €45.00
Support: Lo-Call
Cap: 16GB
Modem: FREE^

^ Supplied free of charge for the duration of subscription period

You must take UTV CPS phone with either products.

Details here: http://www.utvclicksilver.com/

egan007

F***ing sweeeeeeeet

it's just a pity i still have to pay eircon line rental

Ryaner

This is sweet pricing.
45a month for what i currently paying ns 66 for. Have to wait and see what they off now but it begining to look like i be moving.

jank

so do current users have a choice between which one to take or do we still pay our 47e for our dsl line with 8 gig cap

ixoy

Originally posted by Ryaner
This is sweet pricing.
45a month for what i currently paying ns 66 for. Have to wait and see what they off now but it begining to look like i be moving.

I assume you're a fellow Netsource user then? This looks good, doesn't it? I assume the 16GB cap here is both download AND upload? Anyone know?

Supercell

Has anyone rang Netsource to cancel yet because of these great new deals?, wondering do they have anything in the pipeline themselves.

phreak

very cool. its a pity its still useless to gamers. If they sorted out their ping problems it would be the best service in ireland.

MrPinK

Has anyone rang Netsource to cancel yet because of these great new deals?, wondering do they have anything in the pipeline themselves.

I'll definitely wait to see what they offer first before I ring up and cancel. There are supposed to have something on the way alright. They have to really.

egan007

anyone know contention rate - can't see it on the site

bk

Originally posted by MrPinK
I'll definitely wait to see what they offer first before I ring up and cancel. There are supposed to have something on the way alright. They have to really.

Do or die time for NS. I'm a NS customer myself, but if they don't get rid of the stupid domain thing and reduce their prices, I'm walking.

radiospan

Originally posted by jank
so do current users have a choice between which one to take or do we still pay our 47e for our dsl line with 8 gig cap

AFAIK, we'll still pay the €47 unless you change it. If you go to the My Account page here: http://www.utvclicksilver.com/

and then go to "New Services" you can choose one or the other. Your contract will be extended by 12 months, and the new charge will apply from April 1st.

MrPinK

Originally posted by egan007
anyone know contention rate - can't see it on the site

48:1 for the cheap packages and 24:1 for the dearer ones

Ryaner

Just rang ns there. She was saying they'll know bit later today the final prices. It looks like a 1mb line (uncapped/ no domain) for 89+vat. Aint so bad. That would mean that soho goes to sme (ie upcapped). Now I have to decide do I really need a 1mb line. Ponder ponder

tomk

Just upgraded to CS Plus. For me, it's a no-brainer - always been a happy UTV user, not a gamer, and now I'll be paying 2.50 less for 16GB cap and 24:1 contention. OK, I'm locked in for another 12 months, so if some amazing WISP miraculously appears in my neighbourhood before then, I'll just have to wait - but that's OK with me.

bk

Originally posted by Ryaner
Just rang ns there. She was saying they'll know bit later today the final prices. It looks like a 1mb line (uncapped/ no domain) for 89+vat. Aint so bad. That would mean that soho goes to sme (ie upcapped). Now I have to decide do I really need a 1mb line. Ponder ponder

That is s**t, I'll definitely be jumping so, thrust me 99% of people really don't need 1m, I mean think about it, how often do you really use the maximum bandwidth, usually you use minimum bandwidth and only the odd time do you really use max bandwidth (when downloading ISO's etc.) it isn't really worth it.

Pataman

Well done UTV. Decent competition at last. Just changed to the cheaper clicksilver, very simple took 2 mins.
Happy Days:D

egan007

Originally posted by MrPinK
48:1 for the cheap packages and 24:1 for the dearer ones

what's eircoms?

PowerHouseDan

contention rate:what exactly is it?

ixoy

Gahh! With Netsource currently. My requirements:
1) Around 16GB a month cap - more if possible, but can live with 16GB.
2) Can live with 512K connection
3) Not a gamer, so pings don't affect me.

... So this would all seem great BUT I'm in a rented appartment and not sure how long I'll be here :dunno:

Venom

Originally posted by Ryaner
Just rang ns there. She was saying they'll know bit later today the final prices. It looks like a 1mb line (uncapped/ no domain) for 89+vat. Aint so bad. That would mean that soho goes to sme (ie upcapped). Now I have to decide do I really need a 1mb line. Ponder ponder

So the NS product is getting more expensive? That aint cool at all. That upgrade for the same cost of the current SoHo package would be nice tho

Supercell

Originally posted by Ryaner
Just rang ns there. She was saying they'll know bit later today the final prices. It looks like a 1mb line (uncapped/ no domain) for 89+vat. Aint so bad. That would mean that soho goes to sme (ie upcapped). Now I have to decide do I really need a 1mb line. Ponder ponder

Hmm still more expensive than eircom, 16gb is liveable with...well going to give them until friday, if nothing concrete by then time to go to eircom or esat.

Ripwave

Originally posted by powerhousedan
contention rate:what exactly is it?

A contention ratio of 48:1 means that, for every 48 customers on the 512k product, they only have to provide 512k of bandwidth. (potentially shared between all 48 users).

In theory, it means that you could find yourself with speeds that are even lower than dialup. In practice, it doesn't appear to have caused too may problems so far.

dsab

The only thing that turns me off a bit (might be wrong) is, that in the past with UTV you could share the line in the house between two or more rooms, and use it at the same time... according to the new FAQ`s that`s not possible anymore...

PowerHouseDan

I use my line in 2 place,but two computers are never used at the same time,so not running up the bandwit.but just lettin ya no it is still possible

jank

what is the contention rate at the mo on clicksilver
48:1 or 24:1

po0k

Maybe there's more than just you in the house??

MrPinK

Originally posted by Venom
So the NS product is getting more expensive? That aint cool at all. That upgrade for the same cost of the current SoHo package would be nice tho

No, it's not a SOHO upgrade. Netsource can't change the speed of SOHO, it's set by Eircom. The SME and Premier are the resold Eircom ADSL which have just doubled in speed, which is why they in turn have doubled in speed.

bk

Originally posted by dsab
The only thing that turns me off a bit (might be wrong) is, that in the past with UTV you could share the line in the house between two or more rooms, and use it at the same time... according to the new FAQ`s that`s not possible anymore...

While the modem they supply you with only supports one computer, there is nothing stopping you buying a DSL Router and connecting as many computers as you like or alternatively use Internet Connection Sharing ICS (uck!!). And also there is no way that they can know.

chill

I called them just now and they told me that in order to sign up for their Broadband service - I MUST change over telephone call service to them as well.

This is a bummer as their charges are higher than my current telephone service for most calls.

They did say I can continue to use my SMC router.

Venom

Originally posted by MrPinK
No, it's not a SOHO upgrade. Netsource can't change the speed of SOHO, it's set by Eircom. The SME and Premier are the resold Eircom ADSL which have just doubled in speed, which is why they in turn have doubled in speed.

I know that. But what if there were to upgrade your package from the current SoHo package to something better? Dunno if this would cause disruption tho.

Hmm still more expensive than eircom, 16gb is liveable with...well going to give them until friday, if nothing concrete by then time to go to eircom or esat.

Longfeild dont you need to give NS 2 months notice to leave them and go to another ISP?

Supercell

Yep, but will make a decision by Friday as to what i'm going to do.

MrPinK

Originally posted by Venom
I know that. But what if there were to upgrade your package from the current SoHo package to something better? Dunno if this would cause disruption tho

They've already moved everyone over to the 24:1 contention. The only other thing they can do is up the cap, which I don't think they will because of the problems they've had in the past, or drop the price.

GerardKeating

Originally posted by chill
I called them just now and they told me that in order to sign up for their Broadband service - I MUST change over telephone call service to them as well.

This is a bummer as their charges are higher than my current telephone service for most calls.

This is thier version the netsource domain thingy.

While they might have cheapers calls then eircon, they are still about 50% dear then my current telephony supplier.

cheers

chill

Originally posted by GerardKeating
This is thier version the netsource domain thingy.

hmm.. so do IOL have a similar restriction ?

machalla

Yes but you can dial a prefix I think which allows you to use whatever carrier you want as far as I know. Thats how your CPS provider gets all the calls charged through.

Feel free to correct anything above if its all nonsense, mind you.

bk

Originally posted by chill
hmm.. so do IOL have a similar restriction ?

Yes and no, you can get IOL's products either bundled or unbundled with their telephone service.

IOL Broadband:
Monthly Unbunbled: EUR39
Monthly Bunbled: EUR33.15 (plus EUR25 for phone)

IOL Broadband Plus:
Monthly Unbunbled: EUR47
Monthly Bunbled: EUR39.95 (plus EUR25 for phone)

The EUR25 gives you free local and national phone calls, great value IMHO, but not for everyone, it depends on how much you use the phone.

If you don't want the calls just go for the unbundled product, and you can continue to be ripped off by Eircom for phone calls.

Giblet

Yeh the ESAT 33.15 bundled package is very good, especially if you make a lot of calls, better than the UTV one if you take pings into account.

KILLER.BEE

well done all at UTV

Ryaner

Ok lot of ns stuff in here - mod may wanna move it?

NS said to me about the meg line. They also said that the soho would prob be uncapped and that there would be a lower soho price (with cap still)
They hadnt finished there prices or details when I rang again so best to let them decide and tell people.

Anyone know how much of the NS stuff is actually resold?

rymus

hurrah to the first sub €30 BB & all but extending contract by another 12 months makes me :mad:

I wonder if, once you've made your decision as to which product you'll take, if it's possible to migrate between the two. I never download more than 8gb a month now anyway so I reckon I'll take the cheaper option.

Ripwave

Originally posted by dsab
The only thing that turns me off a bit (might be wrong) is, that in the past with UTV you could share the line in the house between two or more rooms, and use it at the same time... according to the new FAQ`s that`s not possible anymore...

It's not "supported", but then, it never was. It's just as "possible" as it ever was.

(I presume that this means UTV are still giving out a crappy USB only modem, then? I'd rather pay IOL the extra €3.15 a month for a decent ethernet modem).

bk

Originally posted by rymus

I wonder if, once you've made your decision as to which product you'll take, if it's possible to migrate between the two. I never download more than 8gb a month now anyway so I reckon I'll take the cheaper option.

I'd imagine upgrading will be free but Malcolm has said that downgrading will cost EUR30 after the initial few weeks.

This is because Eircom wholesale charge UTV nothing for upgrading but they charge UTV EUR25 Excl VAT for downgrading. Which UTV will pass on, which is fair enough IMO.

Sarsfield

Originally posted by Ripwave
I'd rather pay IOL the extra €3.15 a month for a decent ethernet modem

Kinda like comfort modem rental

patrickmooney

Originally posted by bk


The EUR25 gives you free local and national phone calls, great value IMHO, but not for everyone, it depends on how much you use the phone.

Well thats if you bundle with Advantage Plus, standard Advantage costs the same (€25), but thats a min fee, comprising of local, national and mobile calls. So even if you make €25 worth of mobile calls, this would cover the min charge.

Ripwave

Originally posted by Sarsfield
Kinda like comfort modem rental

Hardly - it would cost me €100 to get a decent ethernet modem so that I could plug the router I already have in. At €3.15 extra a month, it'd take 3 years before I'd have paid for a modem.

With "comfort rental" you pay for awhole phone every 4 or 5 months.

Paul-UTVI

Originally posted by jank
so do current users have a choice between which one to take or do we still pay our 47e for our dsl line with 8 gig cap

Hi,

Yes, you can choose which one to take. Log into your online billing account and then select "NEW PACKAGES" at the left hand side. You'll see all the details of both packages at the right including the terms and conditions.

Package changes for existing customers will take effect on the 1st April.

Regards,

Paul-UTVI

Originally posted by dsab
The only thing that turns me off a bit (might be wrong) is, that in the past with UTV you could share the line in the house between two or more rooms, and use it at the same time... according to the new FAQ`s that`s not possible anymore...

Hi,

As another poster said, this is still possible, but we obviously can't provide tech support for local area networking at your premises. There is no technical reason why you can't share the broadband connection on a LAN.

Regards,

mike65

Just signed up....subject to survey etc.!

Mike.

Kramer

Originally posted by Paul-UTVI
we obviously can't provide tech support for local area networking at your premises

That's understandable given the current situation with regard to using proxies etc.

MickFarr

Nice One UTV !!

At last a sub 30 euro decent broadband product. I noticed UTV is now cheap down South than up North

dwayneburke

AT LAST A BIT OF DECENT COMPETTION!!!


Just as a side note I rang NS just there and they told me they would be releasing new prices this week for SOHO. I dont think they realise whats going on..Caught them off guard i think i.e. UTV.