If You Wanted To Revamp A Retro Classic...

RopeDrink · 13-01-2004 11:10am #1

...Which would it be!?
Being an 'extremely minor' games creator (As in I generally using dismal programs to make even more dismal games) I have a tendancy to 'Revamp' classics as opposed to creating my own original products... The current theme being breakout (Which I have had quite a lot of good reports on, and is going VERY well and looking quite nice).

But if you were given the power to revamp or recreated a retro classic or an old game, what would it be!?

GreenHell · 13-01-2004 11:18am

3d Commander Keen would be cool. Little Big Adventure 1 with all the 21st centuary graphical mod cons.

amp · 13-01-2004 11:26am

Gods by the Bitmap Brothers. Not the greatest 2d platformer ever, but one of the most beautiful.

RopeDrink · 13-01-2004 11:34am

God's... 'Into the Wonderful' was the music track for that wasn't it!?
I'm mistaking Gods for some other Amiga strategy game I think...
There's miles worth of Amiga games I'd love to revamp, but I'd require a couple of animators or graphic creators for it seeing as my skills are basically limited to backgrounds and such...

super_furry · 13-01-2004 12:08pm

A 3D version of Turrican would be the best thing ever.

Jip · 13-01-2004 12:39pm

It has to be Ikari Warriors for me, or Kabal(maybe spelt Cabal?).

DiscoStu · 13-01-2004 1:17pm

Originally posted by Jip
It has to be Ikari Warriors for me, or Kabal(maybe spelt Cabal?).

pn03 is a 3d version of either of those games, and yes its Cabal

[CrimsonGhost] · 13-01-2004 1:22pm

Mine Sweeper 3d. With mines in a 3d plane, would add that extra level of difficulty.

Or a 3d Dizzy adventure. God I loved those dizzy games. At least the adventure ones. The arcade ones were alright but dizzy down the rapids sucked.

Vassili Zaitsev · 13-01-2004 1:44pm

if i was to revamp any game it would either be altered beast, bonanza bros or bionic commando a classic this would tear metal gear to shreds.

amp · 13-01-2004 1:54pm

Originally posted by RopeDrink
God's... 'Into the Wonderful' was the music track for that wasn't it!?

You are, in fact, correct.

seanos · 13-01-2004 4:16pm

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles [NES Platformer Version]

So many hours of childhood invested ...

Faust · 13-01-2004 4:25pm

Actually they're revamping sam and maz and making a new 3d one yey!

seanos · 13-01-2004 4:28pm

Don't trust them anymore, they may gay-it-all-up like Monkey Island 4 [I would have said monkey island, except 4 was such a disaster, I would rather forget ... only played demo, nearly made me cry though]

Saw Pics, and although still does look as mentally Disturbing as ever

Faust · 13-01-2004 4:30pm

Originally posted by Sinnocence
Don't trust them anymore, they may gay-it-all-up like Monkey Island 4 [I would have said monkey island, except 4 was such a disaster, I would rather forget ... only played demo, nearly made me cry though]

http://www.lucasarts.com/products/freelancepolice/
trailer looks great!

vibe666 · 13-01-2004 4:39pm

it would have to be Elite, which I know (Elite4) is in the pipeline, but I could learn to program and write the game myself quicker than they have been, it's been 'coming soon' for about 5 years now, and I'm gettign mightly p1ssed off that they haven't got at least some decent screenshots to wet our appetites with, and afaik David Braben has gone walkabout and it doesn't look like he'll be coming back.

I know Frontier and First Encounters were not anywhere near as good as they should have been, but by now they should really have come up with something more than the bugger all they have given us fans.

oh well, maybe next year. :rolleyes:

seanos · 13-01-2004 4:40pm

At risk of possibly going off-topic [apologies if am ...]
Hmm, i dunno - Max doesn't seem as insane as he used to be heh, and not all too sure about voices - I think best revamp done to date was Monkey Island 3, all the voices were perfect, from Guybrush having the most gay voice possible for a pirate [except for the gay pirates during sea battles], murray the demonic skull [favorite character ever in any game], to Elaine ... everything about game perfect I thought ... shame couldn't have another...

ykt0di9url7bc3 · 13-01-2004 5:34pm

I nice update of sentinal (sp?) would be nice...the ps version didnt really do it justice...

Unirally....i have no snes anymore and i miss this most of all

I dont know if Duke nukem is retro...i'll still wait for 3d realms

spy versus spy for the crazy c64 2 player mode...nuff said...

a proper kirby platformer....i was addicted

Tusky · 13-01-2004 7:06pm

streets of rage and golden age *roar*

ykt0di9url7bc3 · 13-01-2004 7:15pm

golden axe tusky???

Faust · 13-01-2004 9:23pm

Originally posted by SearrarD
golden axe tusky???

THAt WOULD BE GREAT!!!

seanos · 13-01-2004 9:33pm

Anyone remember Kid Gloves on Amiga I believe it was

Vassili Zaitsev · 14-01-2004 12:00am

In my opinion the new lord of the rings games are as close to golden axe as u can get. both are insanely playable and pretty much the same.

po0k · 14-01-2004 12:26am

Frontier in full HW accelerated OpenGl 1.4 graphics, HW 3D sound, and no bugs.
Possibly MMORPG.

I'd pay per month to play it.

RopeDrink · 14-01-2004 11:43am

spy versus spy

Now THAT would be fun...
I had all of the Spy V Spy games, but the original & second were the best - The third getting a bit too annoying...

Turrican 3D sounds damn interesting...
They've already stretched Sonic The Hedghog around, so why not stretch 'Zool' - I think it'd be capable of a decent platform game...

Kirby's Adventures on the NES - Despite the overwhelming pink'ness, it was hellishly addictive... I tried creating a new platformer involving the 'ingestion' of enemies but that flopped.

There has to be more classics...

DiscoStu · 14-01-2004 11:50am

Originally posted by SyxPak
Frontier in full HW accelerated OpenGl 1.4 graphics, HW 3D sound, and no bugs.
Possibly MMORPG.

I'd pay per month to play it.

www.eve-online.com

has really nice 3d sound but is a dx bitch and whats a mmorpg without bugs?

i_am_dogboy · 14-01-2004 12:00pm

I think there should be a remake of flimbo's quest, robocod and jet set willy.......because my commodore doesn't work any more

fixXxer · 14-01-2004 1:02pm

Originally posted by super_furry
A 3D version of Turrican would be the best thing ever.

GENIUS!!!! I loved that game so much, spent hours playing it on my poor old Amiga 1500.

Maybe a new Sam&Max or Day Of The Tenticle?

talla · 14-01-2004 1:13pm

Another vote here for Spy vs Spy.

super_furry · 14-01-2004 1:44pm

A remake of Spy vs Spy is already well underway for the PS2 http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/spyvsspy/index.html

MiCr0 · 14-01-2004 2:01pm

Originally posted by RopeDrink
...Which would it be!?
Being an 'extremely minor' games creator (As in I generally using dismal programs to make even more dismal games) I have a tendancy to 'Revamp' classics as opposed to creating my own original products... The current theme being breakout (Which I have had quite a lot of good reports on, and is going VERY well and looking quite nice).

But if you were given the power to revamp or recreated a retro classic or an old game, what would it be!?

and will you be making breakout available?
its a great game!

po0k · 14-01-2004 4:14pm

Originally posted by fixxxer
GENIUS!!!! I loved that game so much, spent hours playing it on my poor old Amiga 1500.

Maybe a new Sam&Max or Day Of The Tenticle?

Why remake them?
There's a sequel to S&M on the way to market afaik.

Tellox · 14-01-2004 4:54pm

The haunting (starring polterguiest) - sega megadrive/genesis

If you havent played it, I suggest you do so now. Had some uber graphics and playability for its time

Deadwing · 14-01-2004 5:45pm

Originally posted by super_furry
A 3D version of Turrican would be the best thing ever.

AFAIK, the people who worked on Turrican are making a game for the cube called Thornado, supposedly a sequel in every sense but the name.

Whoever it was who said an update of dizzy..if i remember rightly, i saw a full 3d screenshot of a new dizzy game in the back of last months GamesTM

If i had to have a game remade..i know its not quite retro..but FFVII..full next gen graphics..orchestrated music....what i wouldnt give..
As far as retro games go....i think The Last ninja series is long overdue for a remake..best. games. ever!

BlitzKrieg · 14-01-2004 7:04pm

repeat after me

High speed highly addictive co-op 3d explosive and uber huge and cool bosses and amazing unique weapon combos

and u get

GUNSTAR HEROS 3D!!! (or gunstar heros 2)

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Retr0gamer · 14-01-2004 7:15pm

Someone sent me a link for a porno version of breakout. It really injects some new life into it

I wish Konami would make Axelay 2 like they promised when you finished it twice on hard mode.

Turrican was a bit overrated imo. I loved turrican 1 + 2 on the C64 but it was nothing compared to the Contra games and Metroid 2. The Super Turrican games didn't play like turrican but were better for it.

Mr E · 14-01-2004 9:00pm

Don't say I'm the only one who thought of Metroid Prime as a kind of Turrican 3D? Morph ball, bombs, huge bosses.....

I'd love to see updates of some of Thalamus' games on the C64::

Creatures 1 and 2 (Torture in 3D!)
Delta and Armalyte (Two of the best shooters ever)
Hunters Moon (Puzzley type shooter)
Mayhem in Monsterland (Imagine this in 3D?)
Hawkeye (Fast platformer)
Citadel (Claustrophobic shooter with great gameplay mechanics)

Outside of Thalamus, how about some of Andrew Braybrooks games?

Paradroid (Imagine the mechanics of paradroid in an environment like System Shock?)
Plus Gribbleys Day Out, Morpheus, Uridium.....

Others?

How about Sacred Armour of Antiriad? Cauldron? Dizzy 3D?

I could type all night

- Dave.

seanos · 14-01-2004 9:42pm

Originally posted by Deadwing
\If i had to have a game remade..i know its not quite retro..but FFVII..full next gen graphics..orchestrated music....what i wouldnt give..

Theres Final Fantasy film coming out ... or in development at least - it's a continuation of FFVII ....

also :
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=146781&p=57&c=&g=72

fixXxer · 14-01-2004 10:07pm

Originally posted by SyxPak
Why remake them?
There's a sequel to S&M on the way to market afaik.

What is "afaik" ?

Creature · 14-01-2004 10:32pm

I would have to say Ultima 7 : The Black Gate. Thats all.

RopeDrink · 15-01-2004 11:42am

AFAIK = 'As Far As I Know'

and will you be making breakout available?
its a great game!

Most definately - And if I wanted to be cheeky, I could even sell it.

I posted about it here before (amp might remember it seeing as I asked for his review) and that was a long time ago (Or should I say, an ANCIENT version of it ago).

My latest breakout project allows you to configure the game (Bat & Ball) to suit you're needs. Basically you are given a certain amount of stat points to dedicate to the speed of the bat, the power of the ball (Yes, specific objects take more damage), which special attacks you want the ball to have when fully charged (Massive explosions, flamethrowers, rocket dispensers, multi-ball attacks) and special bat abilities such as aim aid, sticky bat, homing ball aid, increased acceleration / deceleration and much more... If you could imagine a Breakout RPG then this is the one... I'll post a demo as soon as possible in it's own thread. It's been renamed from MehPong-'Tour Of The Elements' to 'V-Battle - WaterWorks' and you basically have to reach specific objectives before the water level (which determines how 'high up' your bat is, and the point with which the ball can be lost), reaches too high.

Back on topic, Spy Vs Spy would most definately be a great one.
I've never played the latest Metroid Game, yet now that it has been mentioned, it really does have many of Turrican's traits. Loved the original NES Metroid.

I'm not sure if games like DUNE or Defender Of The Crown would make good revamps seeing as there are so many similar games out there of that genre, but I'm a very big fan of strategy games.
Loved Jet Set Willy - One addictive yet seemingly impossible game.
We need more games like that - They'd last you forever!

MiCr0 · 15-01-2004 12:11pm

cool

just post a link when its available!

super_furry · 15-01-2004 12:46pm

I'm not sure if games like DUNE or Defender Of The Crown would make good revamps seeing as there are so many similar games out there of that genre, but I'm a very big fan of strategy games.

Defender of the Crown has already been remade and is now available on the cheap for the Xbox and PS2. Called Robin Hood: Defender of the Crown, it's very true to the original which depending on your point of view is either a good or bad thing. Personally I love it, the narative is different, but the core gameplay remains intact - it's split up into subgames of jousting, ambushing, sword-fighting and held together by a Risk-type strategy system. Highly recommended for fans of the original, but everyone else should probably beware as they may find it outdated.

RopeDrink · 15-01-2004 12:50pm

I remember playing it a couple of times on the Amiga and (more specifically) remember being jousted back to the nine-hell's and back, constantly, to the point where I got sick of it and melted the game.

What about ancient games like Space Invaders or Pong...
They've already decided to take a new approach on 'on-line' gaming with revamps of Tetris and 3D Pong and the likes... What would be you're ideal 'ancient' game revamp!

lordsippa · 15-01-2004 4:36pm

Heh... perfect oldie to give the full 3d revamp: Marble Madness

I've gotta go with Tellox, Haunting was one of the most interesting and fun games to ever have hit the megadrive. Would love to see it make a return to our consoles.

And Sega cancelled a Gamecube outing of Nights!!! :eek: I urge you all to harrass the daughters of whatever people are responsible for such a decision until they finally repent and GIVE US A NEW NIGHTS GAME!

Cake Fiend · 16-01-2004 2:23am

Originally posted by lordsippa
Heh... perfect oldie to give the full 3d revamp: Marble Madness

Super Monkey Ball.

Karl Hungus · 16-01-2004 6:34pm

Syndicate

That games was so ahead of its time!

And please, dont mention the abysmal Syndicate Wars!

RopeDrink · 18-01-2004 1:59pm

Syndicate

Could I agree anymore?
No...

Ken, I condemn you for bringing back ancient memories involving playing your Amiga and demanding that all agents carry four shotguns each, with the odd one having a flamethrower or maybe a Gauss rifle...

Syndicate Wars was a little... Un-Satisfying, but it wasn't terribly bad - Just a little rushed... I can't honestly see too many ways with which they could revamp the old version.

ykt0di9url7bc3 · 18-01-2004 2:13pm

Wonderboy.....?

tman · 18-01-2004 2:18pm

Originally posted by RopeDrink
I've never played the latest Metroid Game, yet now that it has been mentioned, it really does have many of Turrican's traits. Loved the original NES Metroid.

superb game, worth buying a gamecube for imho.
much like mario 64, there are moments when you just sit back and think "blimey, this is metroid in 3D!"

what happened to that new version of speedball?
the bitmap brothers seem to be accumulating funds by doing pc conversions of console games atm...

RopeDrink · 18-01-2004 2:24pm

So I assume that means it isn't avaliable for the PC then?
I need to get my grubby mitts on some new games to keep me sane when my constructive mind goes docile...

Wonderboy, that fat headed, hammer throwing, snail hating bastard in nappy's...
I could see him getting his own game

tman · 18-01-2004 2:32pm

Originally posted by RopeDrink
So I assume that means it isn't avaliable for the PC then?
I need to get my grubby mitts on some new games to keep me sane when my constructive mind goes docile...

yep, gamecube exclusive.
although at heart its an fps, it just wouldn't work with a keyboard and mouse (man, i never thought i'd say that!)
it was built from the ground up with the gamecube controller in mind.

oh yeah, you should be able to pick up a gc, metroid prime (players choice version) and a memory card for under €160.
you'll prolly get the zelda bonus disc as well if you buy a vanilla cube package:mad:

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