what makes a beautiful woman/guy

voxpop

I was just looking at the "images of beauty " thread images of beauty and considering there are so much women, I was wondering can anyone enlighten me as to why guys find certain women soooooooooo fine.

If you check out the thread, there isnt really a single theme except maybe for fit women with not much clothes - basically what im saying is - is there a reason (other than procreation theories) that us guys find women sooooo bloody beautiful.

Another thing, are women the same as guys? eg orlando bloom, the blonde guy in fight club that gets his face smashed in by edward nortan (disclaimer :this is what i thing women like) - do these guys have the same effect on women as fantastic looking women have on guys?

Civilian_Target

Makes a woman hot.

The face is the most imporrant thing. And heres why.

You're in a pub, and a woman a red dress catches your eye. You can see the back of a woman and she should be a model, almost 6 foot, beautiful long legs and a tight red dress. You approach, and the sides come into view and you're liking the chest already. She starts laughing and its incredible and she turns her face towards you. And you see the biggest yellow teeth sticking out of her mouth at 45°, with a pointed man-chin and a thick-set eyes.

The saddest thing too, because you can work on an ass, or getting thin or whatever, but the face is pretty hard to change. The same applies to us men. Of course confidence is the key, a lot of things can be simply ignored by making your own luck. Easy to say, and incredibly hard to do

voxpop

ok I know what you mean - a beautiful face is the trump card, but what makes a face beautiful ???

But the thread is more aimed towards what makes ppl think somehting is beautiful.
Example - is a 100 year old oak tree more beautiful than a hot looking woman/guy or vice versa ? Or what makes one woman more beautiful than another ? (again insert guy as appropriate)

that depends on whether we choose the most beautiful woman or the least ugliest.

flogen

hate to sound all hippy-dippy but its really a matter of opinion

I personally like what you would call petite girls, who are cute, have a nice body etc

by cute i mean pretty eyes, a bright smile and a really...well, cute face!!!


But others have totally different opinons..... A friend of mine is going out with some one who is really really ugly IMO, but he thinks she beautiful.... and thats fair enough... each to their own... if it wasnt like that people like me would be f*ucked.

Flogen

oeNeo

It's the ass, definately the ass.

voxpop

A friend of mine is going out with some one who is really really ugly IMO, but he thinks she beautiful

maybe he's scared - does she beat him

on a serious note(not too serious) I ment this thread as a question as to why we (humans) find certain types of people beautiful - i would guess that even you mate thinks that someone like jessica alba is beautiful.

No matter who you are (with maybe a few exceptions - i dont know) everyone thinks the same sort of ppl are good looking - why? what have they got that others dont ?

Exit

I don't think there is one absolute definition of a beautiful woman or a beautiful man. Every single person has their own unique image of what they find beautiful. Some men like large breasts, some like small breasts, some like skinny women, some like curvy women, some like fat women, etc.

Of course, the media and society in general try to drill into people what they should find beautiful. Some people believe it, and some people just use their own ideas to decide what they find beautiful.

embee

Ratio for Beauty This puts forward the idea that ones face is made up of measurements... and those that are close to the ratio in the article are considered great beauties... apparently a lot of lovely celeb women have ratio perfect faces... so perhaps there is a science to beauty....

flogen

couldnt have put it better myself Exit (which is why i didnt)

I doubt that there is any person, male or female that is generally good looking.... as exit said everyone has different tastes, from figure, to hair/eye colour to the shape of someones face to their height or build etc.

btw, it is possible that the girl beats him, shes gotta do something to get him under the thumb (i dont like her in any way....!!!)

Flogen

voxpop

flogen/Exit
Both of you guys/gals are correct - everyone is different, however,I think that generally there are women that the majority of guys think are beautiful and vice versa.

embee is more on the "theme" of the thread -
from her/his linked article:

This mysterious number has a horde of related quantities and shapes, many of which have long-standing associations with beauty. Among them is the "golden ratio," which is the ratio of 1.618-to-1. This ratio can be used to build so-called golden shapes; for instance, a golden rectangle is one whose ratio of width to height is the golden ratio. These rectangles have been considered beautiful by many artists, and they have made appearances in some of history's most renowned works of art.

This article seems a bit simplistic to me though, but it could be true. Most beautiful people have a beautiful face - no matter what there body is like- soooooo is it acceptable to move this question back to Civilian_Target's idea that the face is the most important attribute when assigning beauty ??

Exit

Originally posted by Angry_Penguin
flogen/Exit
Both of you guys/gals are correct - everyone is different, however,I think that generally there are women that the majority of guys think are beautiful and vice versa.

Just to finish off this point. It's the majority of media influenced guys that find a certain type of woman beautiful. If you went to a place that has absolutely no contact with western media, you'd find that most males don't go for the tall, thin, busty woman that western men go for.

Grom

and its so the ass btw.Im not that bothered bout any thing else as you can always turn em around.Tbh if I met the women in the red dress as previously spoken to Id adopt doggy style as that ass was fine

Kold

It's the eyes, most definately. I mean... Come on...

Kopf

it's in the eyes / smile / hands.

bdiddy

the lips/cheeks/eyes.

Def a beautiful face. Agreeing with the points already made beauty is definitly in the eye of the beholder.

tinkerbell

who is that girl anyway? Is it Danii Minogue?

I don't think it can be explained why some people find certain people attractive, maybe tiz jus one of those unexplained thingys

Mutant_Fruit

Everyone has their own idea about whats hot and whats not.

I for instance find one of my friends to be pretty hot, but another of my friends things she's the ugliest thing to walk on the earth.

Smae for me, some girls think i'm horrible, and others think i'm the hottest thing to walk on the earth (well, i hope they do...).

But there are always some basic common factors, and thats the face. The position of the eyes/nose/mouth, and size of said objects etc.

Some people perfer the biggest tits you can find, some people find huge tits a turn off. Some like girls with a bit of meat on them, something to hold on to. Others like their girls pencil thin. Its all personal preference.

My advice, if you think a girl is hot, ignore what everyone else says (unless they agree), cos after all, will your friend by the one who goes out with her?

Kold

Originally posted by tinkerbell
who is that girl anyway? Is it Danii Minogue?

Claire Forlani (meet joe black)

StephenInsane

It's all got to do with symmetry. The more one side of the face looks like the other the better looking the person is. I've seen examples. On discovery they showed pics of an ugly person and a good looking person, they were both simular enough looking, but for some unidentifiable reason, one was stunning, and the other you wouldn't go near.

Then they altered the photo of the stunner so that the left side of her face was being used for both sides of her face, ie they duplicated her left side, flipped it over, and replaced her right side with it. She still looked pretty much the same.

They did the same to the ugly looking person, and by doing it, they made her look like a freaky goblin, not even human

Makaveli

I think it has to do with how a healthy a person looks aswell. I mean if they look like a dirty big fat slob well you're not going to want to go there, but a nice clear complexion, bright, shiny hair it draws your attention.
That and ass, they gots ta have ass.

Pepe LeFrits

Someone posted the link to an article on this a while back. It was based on a survey of 'good' looking people's faces and the common threads in all of them. The conclusions drawn were fairly plausible, much more so than most of the suggestions on this thread.

Victor

Not beauty as such, but behavior can greatly increase attractiveness. Such behaviors include direct eye contact, smiling, laughing, touching and so on.

ykt0di9url7bc3

for me, when a woman smiles at me...

or my horrible weakness >> any nice female sporting any british accent* bar swansea



*Dont ask...i was young, corrupt and thrown to the lions

Capt'n Midnight

gotta go with that smiles thing too

BrianD3

There has been research done on what makes women and men attractive

Women:
Large eyes
High rounded forehead
Smooth skin
Delicate chin and jaw
Chest to waist to hip ratio

Men:
Square imposing forehead and brow
Large jaw and chin
Well developed shoulders and chest
Above average height
Waist to chest ratio of <0.75

Symmetry is important for both sexes as are signs of cleanliness and good health (straight white teeth, shiny clean hair etc.)

BrianD3

Victor

Originally posted by Capt'n Midnight
gotta go with that smiles thing too

But it has to be a real / genuine smile - not something contrived for a photograher.

phaxx

BrianD3 - I'm not doubting you, but whats your source for that?

Capt'n Midnight

Originally posted by Victor
But it has to be a real / genuine smile - not something contrived for a photograher.

Ain't that the truth..
There was a program on the beeb about lying and if there aren't crows feet there the smile ain't genuine. Weird too, a lot of the posts I put up on the Beauty forum don't capture the nuances of the presenters - Lili Gruber doing the main evening news casually casting the hand outs to one side..

IIRC the symmetry and fair skin is supposed to be an indication of not having disease or parasites (dark skin concels more) and the distribution of fat can allegedly indicate whether a woman can meat the calorific demands of pregnancy and lactation. (Interesting question of whether if true or not and are Lesbians in to T&A and what would be the signifance of that or not)

Beauty is skin deep etc.

PS. Sophie Loraine fails most biometric beauty tests

Originally posted by BrianD3
There has been research done on what makes women and men attractive

Women:
Large eyes
High rounded forehead
Smooth skin
Delicate chin and jaw
Chest to waist to hip ratio

Men:
Square imposing forehead and brow
Large jaw and chin
Well developed shoulders and chest
Above average height
Waist to chest ratio of <0.75

Symmetry is important for both sexes as are signs of cleanliness and good health (straight white teeth, shiny clean hair etc.)

BrianD3

'tis true ye know. I saw it all on the sex sense!

BrianD3

BrianD3 - I'm not doubting you, but whats your source for that?

Several sources - an article on beauty in the sunday times a few years back plus various TV programmes (eg ones by anthropologist Desmond Morris)

BrianD3

Civilian_Target

Men:
Square imposing forehead and brow
Damn my roundness
Large jaw and chin
Well developed shoulders and chest
Above average height
Waist to chest ratio of <0.75

- Ahh damnit. I can manage 0.72, shame about the rest of it though...

Symmetry is important for both sexes as are signs of cleanliness and good health (straight white teeth, shiny clean hair etc.)

Ahh... leave me alone...

ferdi

beauty is totally individual/

however, a degree of 'mystery' surrounding an individual with make them more sexy every time.

Tellox

eyes, and smell.

KlodaX

beauty is completely based on the onlooker ....

I think though some people consider others as beautiful because others before them have ... its like style

signs of beauty differ from country to country .. and time period to time period

"The quality that gives pleasure to the mind or senses and is associated with such properties as harmony of form or color, excellence of artistry, truthfulness, and originality. " - so says dictionary.com


originality.. I like that ... that has to be taken into consideration... something may be beautiful... but once you seen one beautiful thing ... repeatidly it becomes less beautiful..

how many sunsets did you see in the beautiful pictures thread?

Pinkchick03

To me beauty is about eyes and smile! I love a guy with a nice smile!! its funny to read this that not many people said a nice set of t*ts is beauty! cos alot of guys seem to think thats all there is to women.

Once I was in a pub, sat down + this guy said hello to my t*ts like it was normal!! True story!

Does anyone know of any website you can go onto and post your picture to see if you can see if your face is symmetric!? Sure who's face is symetric! How do you spell that damn word??

monument

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but for some it is dictated to.

deimos

Anybody ever just looked at a girl at first, and think "she is beautiful", not thinking dirty about her, looking at her ass, tits and thinking of fellatio. She is simply beautiful.

Then she talks to you(or vise versa), she is funny, and sound and not a cockey bitch.

Then finally you look at her and see the whole 3 things combined, beauty, personality and a hot body(tits, damn yeh!). Then you can say she is really beautiful.

deimos

Originally posted by Civilian_Target
Men:
Square imposing forehead and brow
Damn my roundness
Large jaw and chin
Well developed shoulders and chest
Above average height
Waist to chest ratio of <0.75

- Ahh damnit. I can manage 0.72, shame about the rest of it though...

Symmetry is important for both sexes as are signs of cleanliness and good health (straight white teeth, shiny clean hair etc.)

Ahh... leave me alone...

Jesus christ, send your blue prints to Sony, I think they make that model..........

Capt'n Midnight

Agent Smith

eyes....



the eyes are the gateway to the human soul. people i know might not be what most people would class as beautifull, but one look at there eye's is all it need's for the eye's to reveal all. people go on all about the face, ass, breasts legs and soforth, but the eye's of someone can tell so much about a person. if there filled with hate or love, the factors that people have to consider before the rest of the person is even thought of. when a person looks at you, the first thing they look at is your eye's. and the reason for that is so to establish the exsistance of the other persons soul.





sorry if that sounds like a preech or something, but i truely belive that. it's what the entire bases of beauty is imo