Why???

BlitzKrieg

Who's the victim?

For those in the thurles area u might have heard this story.

I'm not sure if i should tell this, its just fascinating to me though the whole idea of who is the real victim?



A man was driving home late one evening and while crossing over the bridge over the railway he spotted a group of people on bicycles. These people were settled travellers (no racism intended here its just vital to story) and while passing them the driver, to his horror, found that they were drunk and that a young one at the age of 17 (very drunk) swerved wildly in front of his car, and was knocked down. Medics rushed to the scene to help the boy only to find...


That the travellers had started a fight. This is the part of the story i am unsure of but as far as i know two different communities started fighting while the boy was left on the tarmac. The medics were terrified to help the boy as 2 of them were attacked while trying to get equipment out of the ambulance. Finally getting the boy into the ambulance the doctor on the scene found that one of the travellers refused to leave the boys side and was brought with them to the hospital


anyway the boy is rushed to hospital but at the hospital the accompanying traveller refused to stop trashing around in the halls while the boy was in operation. Finally he calmed down but...the boy died.


The end of the story?? not quite, a few days later the man who had knocked the boy down arrived at the doctors office looking for advice. He was distraught over the events but another fear was on his mind. No matter the circumstances he had caused the boys death and that meant that the boys family will (in his view) come after him. He now fears for his life and for the life of his family...



Now who's the victim?


-the 17 year old drunk boy who was knocked down?

-The driver who now feels his life is in serious danger?



And why?

-Why the fighting?

-Why the violence to those who were trying to help?

-Why the violence in the hospital?




Is the world really this mad???

phreak

Who's the victim?

both the boy and the driver.

-Why the fighting?

-Why the violence to those who were trying to help?

-Why the violence in the hospital?

who knows what goes through some peoples minds.

Is the world really this mad???

Yes.

Rabies

I live in Thurles and was told that the driver was drinking also. Dunno what the full story is, was told by a friend's father that knew the guy knocked down. Never know what story is true, tabloids, broadsheets, people ?

BlitzKrieg

I know the doctor who was on the scene, I was told the kid was the one who had been drinking

Paddy20

BlitzKreig,

I note that there is no mention of the Guards/Police having been on the scene of this tragic incident. This I find extremely strange. Also why " a few days later " the driver "arrived at the Doctors looking for advice ".. When clearly it should have been the Guards/Police he called on for advice ?.. or the Guards should have visited him before that ?..

It is also illegal for the driver to have left the scene of an accident involving injury to another human, before giving a statement to the Guardai. The first thing to do in those circumstancs is to call the Emergency Sevices, including the Guards.

As there was a fatality, an inquest will have to be held into how this accident happened and all witnesses will be summoned to appear.

Imho there is more to this tragedy than immediately meets the eye !.

P.:ninja: :dunno:

Capt'n Midnight

Do we have any "good samaritan" leglislation ?
Otherwise is there any penalty for preventing a person receiving medical treatment ?

BlitzKrieg

Originally posted by Paddy20
BlitzKreig,

I note that there is no mention of the Guards/Police having been on the scene of this tragic incident. This I find extremely strange. Also why " a few days later " the driver "arrived at the Doctors looking for advice ".. When clearly it should have been the Guards/Police he called on for advice ?.. or the Guards should have visited him before that ?..

All i know is the doctors viewpoint of the events. I belief he is actually a close friend of the doctor as well as a patient. I assume the gaurds were there but i have seen guards being powerless to fights in this town before.

It is also illegal for the driver to have left the scene of an accident involving injury to another human, before giving a statement to the Guardai. The first thing to do in those circumstancs is to call the Emergency Sevices, including the Guards.

I see your point here i'm unsure of what happened again the story i was told (by 2 different people) varies from the viewpoint of the secretary of my mothers workplace (who was in the car behind the driver involved) and from the doctor who arrived on the scene.

As there was a fatality, an inquest will have to be held into how this accident happened and all witnesses will be summoned to appear.

Imho there is more to this tragedy than immediately meets the eye !.

P.:ninja: :dunno:

True if i hear anymore about it i'll keep you posted, its just i've heard about disturbances between travellers and non-travellers but i've never actually come apon one so close to home and which seems to be so crazy. The fighting that broke out prevented the medics and the doctor from giving their full ability to saving the boy. THe boy himself was of the families fighting then why did they not try to help save the boy?

Paddy20

I would leave worries about " why the families did not try to help save the boy ? " until after the official inquest. Still sounds like a case where a lot of people have a lot of explanations to give as official legal witnesses, and until this due process, which can take a very long time, is carried through. No conclusions can be reached.

P.:ninja:

Paddy20

Capt'n Midnight,

Re;" Preventing a person from receiving medical treatment " ?. I am not a Solicitor, but Imho it is obviously a very serious criminal act to prevent someone from receiving urgent medical treatment, particularly where the person in need dies, because the life saving treatment was not administered in time due, to another human being causing the delay through being obstructive, or in breach of the peace.

P.:ninja: