One for the Ladies

Walls

(Is there any lady out there surprised about this one?)

Taken from Anaova; Women ‘should stay single to stay sane’

The key to happiness - and sanity - for women could be to spend the whole of their lives single, research has suggested.

A survey of almost 4,500 men and women found that women who stayed single enjoyed much better mental health than those who had married or suffered a relationship split.

But the same was not true for men, who fared better mentally if they were in a relationship.

The research, published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, is at odds with the Bridget Jones generation of women who believe they can only be truly happy once they have nabbed a man.

Researchers at the University of London based their findings on the response to a mental health questionnaire of adults under 65 taking part in the British Household Panel Survey.

The team, led by Dr Michaela Benzeval, also found that serial relationships were good for men's mental health, but had an adverse effect on women.

While men did better mentally if they simply lived with a partner, marriage was more beneficial to a woman's mental health.

Break-ups were also painful for both sexes, but women generally took longer to recover.

Women's mental health also got progressively worse the more break-ups they had and the more new relationships they had to start.

And women who remained alone after a marriage split had the worst mental health of all those surveyed, apart from those who were alone immediately after breaking up with a partner.

The researchers said: "Men in first partnerships displayed better mental health than those who remained single, whereas women who remained single displayed equally good mental health to those in their first partnership and better health than those who had experienced a partnership spilt.

"This is further support for the finding that single men display more distress than married men and vice versa for women."

The team suggested that the Government should review the law on cohabitation rights as the lack of financial and property protection leading to security concerns may explain women's poorer mental health than those who marry.

They also said separation and divorce support organisations should target women who experienced multiple splits.

Story filed: 07:53 Monday 22nd December 2003

Moonbeam

As the old saying goes- Its better to have loved and lost then never loved at all,
The article is not suprising but Its prob not 100% accurate either

L4

While all you ladies read the above can y'all help me with a query of my own?
Is a builder's bum sexy?

Mossy Monk

communist/femminist rubbish

quank

ever wonder, there is no good lookin feminist?
no offence to feminists out there
but i never saw a nice lookin feminist

*you aul dawg you*

Faust

Originally posted by quank
ever wonder, there is no good lookin feminist?
no offence to feminists out there
but i never saw a nice lookin feminist

*you aul dawg you*

I agree with the above commant and or statement


ps: feminazis suck

bizmark

ps: feminazis suck

Aye

Walls

I'd consider myself a feminist, and have been told I'm not exactly scary to look at. It has less to do with seeking the advancement of women over men, but rather is a method of political examination of current events. Doesn't dicate conclusions, either, but does indeed hold to certain fundamental principles.

The fact that some folk wonder if there are ever any 'good looking ones' does hint that some attitudes might still need a bit of polishing...

ll=llannah

it is an interesting article. i agree with moonbeam, but one can't help but wonder...
naturally, the whole species would die out if all women decided to stay single. but less stress doesn't mean you are happier. so, altho an interesting argument, it is rediculous. and stupid.
anyway. as to the feminist thing. i know plenty of gorgeous feminists. plenty.
(/restrains self from going on rant) so there.

Faust

BTW in case anyone does'nt know if women don't have sexual activity they can get certain conditions that are really bad for them. I'm too lazy to do the research but i'm sure someone will for me,please?

dod

Originally posted by Faust
BTW in case anyone does'nt know if women don't have sexual activity they can get certain conditions that are really bad for them. I'm too lazy to do the research but i'm sure someone will for me,please?

I think this is what you're looking for Faust.

Faust

I'm too lazy to retort so *shakes fist*

][cEMAN**

Which would you rather have? Femanism or Ladism? Think spice girls....

bizmark

neither....

skittishkitten

Originally posted by twix_girl
naturally, the whole species would die out if all women decided to stay single.

Not necessarily , just because a woman stays single doesn't mean she can't get impregnated by either artificial insemination or by allowing oneself to "be bred" specifically for the cause of reproducing. The species would survive as there would be enough men out there that would be willing to consent to siring offspring. If that were to be the case then one would think that only the best genetic males would be used for breeding.

But personally , I totally enjoy men , wouldn't want to be without one ..... well not for any length of time anyhow.:D

bizmark

the best genetic males would be used for breeding.

My god its 1942 all over again :rolleyes:

Sleepy

tbh I think most guys have a problem with feminists as women really seem to have become the dominant force in society in recent years. When was the last time you saw women blatantly discriminated against? Yet there's discrimination against men everywhere you look these days. I see jobs advertised as "manageress wanted", women only gym's etc. on a fairly regular basis and to be honest I've no problem with it as I can understand women wanting to be able to go to a gym where there are no men ogling them etc. However, what does irk me is that if this was reversed, the men involved would end up in court faster than you could say "lorena bobbit"...

Victor

The problem with the article would appear to be that it doesn't decide whether the women have problems because they are married or because they are dependant.

xx

I'm a guy but I'm pretty set on staying single for the rest of my life. Relationships are too much hassle.

bizmark

im with xx on that one tbh

Faust

But bizmark you said you loved me!? *runs off crying*

bizmark

weirdo

Ruaidhri

However, what does irk me is that if this was reversed, the men involved would end up in court faster than you could say "lorena bobbit"...

HAHAHAHAHA
Yeah welcome to the age of equality...
So all this article tells us is that women STILL dont know what they want

AL][EN

Women staying single!! good god the day that happens I'm emigrating to Finland (you seen Finnish women phaaaarr!!)

where's the fun in women staying single!! I'm not getting sucked into the whole communist/feminist debate i don't know any feminist's therefore i cant comment on what there like.

But i do agree with skittishkitten, i love being in relationships and being with girlfriends in general, granted sex on tap is always a big bonus when your in a relationship I've been single for long enough to know that when your in a relationship its far more satisfying than when your not

lili

well, maybe women when they are married accord less time and importance at themselves than single ones.
when you have to make concessions it's often in the detriment of your wishes and your personality.
on the other hand a life without a real relationship is not sain, a woman need a man shoulder to put her head when she feels tired and lost:)

xx

Originally posted by lili
on the other hand a life without a real relationship is not sane, a woman need a man shoulder to put her head when she feels tired and lost:)

And here's me thinking it was for the company/money/emotional blackmail/putting under the thumb (delete as applicable)?!?!
You can't be irish....seriously!!!

Exit

She's not. She's French as far as I know.

Anyway, a lecturer told us in class once that a feminist is somebody who believes in female equality, whether they be female or male.

Faust

Originally posted by Exit
She's not. She's French as far as I know.

Anyway, a lecturer told us in class once that a feminist is somebody who believes in female equality, whether they be female or male.

That makes no sense..

Exit

As I said, not my particular viewpoint. I think it's a bit mad myself to be honest.

Faust

but female equality beteen female and male does'nt make sense. Anyway feminism criticism in literaturn is women trying to find the presence of women or the lack of in literature and then bitch about how they ar enot in it and how they should be or if they are in it how they were oppressed by men.

eth0_

Originally posted by Faust
That makes no sense..

Why not, are you thick? It's a perfectly simple concept. A man believing women should have equal rights = feminist. There are lots of male feminists.

Faust

Originally posted by eth0_
Why not, are you thick? It's a perfectly simple concept. A man believing women should have equal rights = feminist. There are lots of male feminists.

Idiot. I mean in the context of what feminism is it does'nt make sense.

simu

I mean in the context of what feminism is it does'nt make sense.

Feminist literary criticism and feminism are different things. The lecturer's idea makes perfect sense!

Faust

Originally posted by simu
Feminist literary criticism and feminism are different things. The lecturer's idea makes perfect sense!

Did i say they were the same things?? I just said i studied feminist literary criticism! I also was at 3 lectures on what feminism was.. And if you knew feminism and its history you would understand why what was said does'nt make sense.

Giblet

Eddie Izzard is a male "feminist"

Faust

you've shown me

ps: i love eddie izzard

Faust

http://www.iamlost.com/features/beard/

hehe feminists

xx

Originally posted by Exit
She's not. She's French as far as I know

Cheers. Damn, I'm getting too good at this. There was no way a haggard ol' irish scowler could've come out with what she said and meant it.

simu

Female equality = equality of females and males before the law.

It's not the clearest way of putting it but that's what it means. What's the bet this thread turns into yet another argument based on semantics all the same?:-)

Sure, there are some versions of feminism that go off this path and yes, originally many of the earlier feminists didn't want the same rights as men or had some other take on the whole thing but that's what it's taken to mean nowadays.

Did i say they were the same things?? I just said i studied feminist literary criticism!

Why mention it then? It's completely irrelevant!

Faust

Originally posted by simu
Female equality = equality of females and males before the law.

It's not the clearest way of putting it but that's what it means. What's the bet this thread turns into yet another argument based on semantics all the same?:-)

Sure, there are some versions of feminism that go off this path and yes, originally many of the earlier feminists didn't want the same rights as men or had some other take on the whole thing but that's what it's taken to mean nowadays.



Why mention it then? It's completely irrelevant!

Why do u try to argue? I was mentioning it as feminist literary criticism interprets literature using feminism, how can i make it any clearer...

simu

Exit said:

Anyway, a lecturer told us in class once that a feminist is somebody who believes in female equality, whether they be female or male.

You (Faust) said:

That makes no sense..

Then, you explain why you think so:

but female equality between female and male does'nt make sense. Anyway feminism criticism in literaturn is women trying to find the presence of women or the lack of in literature and then bitch about how they ar enot in it and how they should be or if they are in it how they were oppressed by men.

I posted saying that what the lecturer said makes sense to me, interpreting it as meaning equality of females and males before the law. Words don't work like variables in an equation. Saying you support "female equality beteen female and male" doesn't make sense just as saying you favour "bovine equality between cows and sheep" dosn't make sense. Saying you believe in "female equality" does make sense however - it has become a shorthand way of saying you believe in equality of females and males before the law. That's what I'm saying - I don't see what's weird about believing this.

You mentioned feminist criticism and I don't get why - unless you thought the person who wrote the article this thread was based on was whinging about oppression of women the way you claim feminist lit. crit. does.

I was mentioning it as feminist literary criticism interprets literature using feminism, how can i make it any clearer...

Feminist literary criticism grew out of feminism but while it's interesting to consider how women are depicted in literature, personally, I find that any type of literary criticism based on a political movement sucks as it tends to try to fit everything into too narrow a framework.

Faust

I dislike literary critiscim based on a political movement too for the same reasons. And the only reason i mentioned feminist criticism was because i felt like it, I did'nt have any particular point, i just felt like it.

Ps: you put way too much effort into your posts, calm down a little.

simu

Ps: you put way too much effort into your posts, calm down a little.

Aren't long Christmas holidays are wonderful! My posts will probably far shorter on average when I go back to college.

Faust

I'm not back to college till february, yey! marry me!

simu

marry me!

You must be male then?:-)

Faust

You're female!? It's not that funny then...

Exit

It's like when Harry met Sally.

Faust

WHat happened when harry met sally i don't think i saw that movie?

AL][EN

When harry met sally

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SYNOPSIS

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WHEN HARRY MET SALLY... tracks a star-crossed pair as they repeatedly drift apart and meet again over a span of 13 years and gradually fall madly, deeply, passionately into friendship, a friendship ever teetering on the edge of love. Harry meets Sally when they share a car ride to New York City upon graduation from the University of Chicago. A few minutes into the trip, the conversation between womanizing, neurotic Harry (Billy Crystal) and driven, equally neurotic Sally (Meg Ryan) becomes heatedly contentious. The question arises: Can a man and a woman be just friends? Harry contends this proposition is impossible, that sex will always come along to screw up the friendship. Sally is aghast and disagrees, proclaiming the idea a distinct possibility. The two part ways rather acrimoniously in New York but before long meet again and eventually decide to indeed be friends. As life’s mysterious coincidences pull Harry and Sally closer together, they share mystical, tender moments, confess secrets to each other, console each other, attend major holidays together, and do all the other things couples traditionally do. The question then reemerges: Can Harry and Sally remain mere friends, or will they--must they--fall in love? And can anyone forget Ryan's classic faking-it scene in Katz's Deli?

Faust

So the incident between me and simu is nothing like when harry met sally.

AL][EN

i dunno i havent really been keeping track of the conversation between you too i just skipped to the last page and saw the "whats when harry met sally" thingy