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Fight Club - the attention to detail (wow)

  • 24-12-2003 9:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭


    Hi guys,
    I watched Fight Club for the third time (overall) but the big difference is that in the time between I have taken up a huge interest in film making. So when I watched it this week I had my does and don’ts hat on... and it just blew me away even more.
    I would like to describe it as a theatrical piece that always ensures you know you are watching a film.
    Direct narration to the camera
    Explaining film sequences (the time he falls on the bed and blanks)
    The mili-second accuracy of the cuts t give the illusion Brad exists
    I could go on, and on,…
    I would hold this as a yard stick for any wannabe director (like myself) as the attention to details is just unbelievable – there is not a shot or a frame that put in ‘to fill time’. Everything has a reason.
    The only slight glitch in the story is that VISA card companies have high resilience IT environments with information be stored in more than one location… thus, there would probably be little to no impact and all of our huge debts would still live on happily ever after… :) but that’s me being a little particular.
    Any how… how do you fell about it.
    The Duke : ))


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Kai


    Would agree with your take on how brad was convincingly made real with the clever takes and cuts, its one of the few films that i hadnt guessed the ending to the first time id seen it.
    One of my top five fav films. That and it has brad, im not gay but if i was gona have sex with a man it would have to be brad. :D

    good flick :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Owenw


    Have to agree this is in my top 5 all time great films.

    I have count of the times I watch the DVD, I suppose once every 3-6 months.

    IMHO Fight Club and Se7en turned Brad Pitt from eye-candy for the ladies into a credible screen actor.

    It is one of the few films which is story led and the technical effects and cinematography are used to underpin the story rather than used "just because we can" like so many other Hollywood moves of the last 10 years or so.

    I didn't get that he was schitzo until a split second before it was revealed in the hotel bedroom near the end.

    I would rate the dialogue/characterisation second only to Pulp Fiction.

    Has anyone read the book it was based on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Yup, Fight Club is pretty amazing but IMO what's truly surprising is that other film makers are so sloppy and make so many continuity mistakes, are unrealistic when trying to be realistic or else break the logic of their own films. I intend to read the book too as I've been told it goes into a lot more detail than the book (about bomb-making etc!)- that would be cool.

    Owenw, to be fair to Brad Pitt, he's been pretty good in any film I've seen him in, unlike say Tom Cruise and other so-called heat-throbs and when he appears on TV, he seems to be a pretty intelligent and funny guy. In terms of looks though, I'd take Edward Norton any day, guess there's no accounting for taste!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭buzzerbuckley


    the worst films ever made.

    main idea was ripped off from angel heart,while the rest in pure thrash esp the testicular cancer group therapy junkies..........

    all style no substance.complete muck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭smiaras


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Owenw


    Originally posted by simu
    Yup, Fight Club is pretty amazing but IMO what's truly surprising is that other film makers are so sloppy and make so many continuity mistakes, are unrealistic when trying to be realistic or else break the logic of their own films. I intend to read the book too as I've been told it goes into a lot more detail than the book (about bomb-making etc!)- that would be cool.

    Owenw, to be fair to Brad Pitt, he's been pretty good in any film I've seen him in, unlike say Tom Cruise and other so-called heat-throbs and when he appears on TV, he seems to be a pretty intelligent and funny guy. In terms of looks though, I'd take Edward Norton any day, guess there's no accounting for taste!

    What I meant to say was that these 2 films altered my perception of Pitt.
    Actually he was also very good in 12 Monkeys now that I think about it and I didn't even know who he was back then!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Señor Juárez


    you know the references made to subliminal advertising during the film? I hear that early on in the film, single frames of Brad Pitt are inserted before his character is revealed, presumably to make him integrate more easily with the viewers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    you know the references made to subliminal advertising during the film? I hear that early on in the film, single frames of Brad Pitt are inserted before his character is revealed, presumably to make him integrate more easily with the viewers.

    True. When I watched it in DivX format, this was much more obvious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Owenw


    Yep they show him 16 times or something before his entrance.
    He also shows up in the "Welcome" video playing on the TV in the hotel room when Norton is relating his "single-serving" theory. And at the end just before the end credits they splice in a "single frame or pornography" like Pitt did as a film projectionist.

    See, all that additional trivial info on Disc 2 does come in useful! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dangerman


    The book is well worth a read if your as amazed by fight club as I was. (As are Chuck Palahniuck's other stuff)

    Also, Fincher was described as one of those directors who can describe an entire scene in exacting detail before it's shot and that really really shows in the film.

    Top of my list for fav film this one.

    I wrote a review of it in the films section a while ago.

    See it here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭TheDuke


    indeed, Owenw put it into a neat sentence...

    As for the Game - it'll one of those dumb punch'em'ups with a name to move it from the shelves - I can imagine anything clever comming out of it.... but I don't care much about that....

    if I ever get to make a film this will be my measuring stick....

    The Duke : ))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Spacedog


    The subliminal flashes of Tyler were timed to co-inside with times when 'Jack' was suffering from sleep deprivation "Copy of a copy" and all. Whether I subconsiously was more aware of Tyler's presence I don't know.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by TheDuke
    As for the Game - it'll one of those dumb punch'em'ups with a name to move it from the shelves - I can imagine anything clever comming out of it.... but I don't care much about that....
    How confusing - I thought you were talking about the Fincher movie "The Game" 'coz you used a capital :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Obscure


    Fight Club the book is well worth a read. Much of it is exactly as it is in the film, which says something about Chucks style of writing, it was as if he was writing the screenplay of the film.

    Also, the book gives a different version of the first meeting between ? and Tyler (in the film it was on the plane where Tyler debates a matter of etiquette "do i give her the ass or the crotch?"). The meeting gives an added dimension to what Tyler was trying to achieve.

    Sometimes one moment of perfection is all you have!

    Ob


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    Originally posted by buzzerbuckley
    the worst films ever made.

    main idea was ripped off from angel heart,while the rest in pure thrash esp the testicular cancer group therapy junkies..........

    all style no substance.complete muck.

    how can you say that? the film is stunning and a shining example of how a good movie should be written/directed/acted.

    as for it being a rip of angel heart... the film was taken from a book and adapted to film.


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