Halo xbox vs Halo PC

Stormfox1020 · 19-10-2003 12:13pm #1

Which halo is the better one? I personally think that the Xbox one is better cuz u can play 2player co-op (have had so much fun, on that beach landing level where u both drive each others warthog into each other and go flyin), but then again the PC one has Online MP but since i cant get BB the xbox version comes up trumps.

BLITZ_Molloy · 19-10-2003 3:19pm

I've been playing FPS with a mouse and keyboard for too long to ever use a joypad so it had to be the PC version for me.

The multiplayer and better resolution are also very welcome.

jesus_thats_gre · 19-10-2003 3:47pm

PC: better graphics, more multiplayer features and a mouse

Xbox: been out 2 years, runs at a decent framerate and is not laced with bugs.

Ryo Hazuki · 19-10-2003 4:54pm

PC version does not look as good unless your running in 1024 x 786. I find I get the best performance from 800 x 600 with 4x AA and 8x anisotrophic. Limit Frame rate to 30fps

Online play is great fun.

( Using a 1.7ghz XP and 9800 Pro 405/768 )

XBox version is brilliant, looks amazing on a 32"
You dont have to change settings to get optimal performance.
You can play from the comfort of your armchair.

Either way Halo is one of the best games Ive ever played.

monument · 19-10-2003 7:28pm

Originally posted by Stormfox1020
but then again the PC one has Online MP but since i cant get BB the xbox version comes up trumps.

Unlike Xbox Live, PC gaming is not restricted to broadband. Halo PC works fine on half of an IDSN line (64kbps).

Lets face it the best part of Halo is it’s multiplayer, the Xbox version does not work on Live, so Halo PC is the only version where you can pick up and play multiplayer when you want.

Pugsley · 20-10-2003 10:17pm

For any FPS an mouse is a must, so Ill go with the PC one.

Anima · 20-10-2003 10:32pm

I'm finding the single player SOOOO boring. The levels are repeatitive and they just throw stupid amounts of enemies at you. HATE it.

So i'd have to say pc version seeing as the multiplayer is the best part of the game.

Lenny · 20-10-2003 11:15pm

aggree with you there raven.
I've been doing my own little part of cheaking ie. unlimited ammo(an no reloading needed) and it is very very hardf,(playing on normal) the ammount of enemies is unbelieveable at parts, just keep retrying at the same part again and again, those the same charaters seems to used a lot for the aliens....
as you lot said, multiplayer suits it best, reminds me a lot of hl deathmatch

Dcully · 21-10-2003 12:15am

I got it purely for online play,i have it on xbox too but tbh it sucks on it.
Unless you cram lots of TVs ,lotsa guys,lotsa consoles into a room your stuck with single player and all this with a [yuck] pad .
FPS games r terrible with a pad, end of story!

Single player was so boring after first hour on xbox so i will not touch it on PC either.
Ive got to say the gfx are so much better on PC,high res and getting between 60-100 fps is beautifull compared to xbox on my 32 inch 100 HZ tv.
Having said that the halo engine is ancient now by todays standards so its only average for pc but compared to consoles its stunning so i guess i go for PC version,its far far far superior in every department but what do you expect?

Spacedog · 21-10-2003 11:18am

Anyone else think the music in Halo rocks, the theme song is deadly and the in game mood music is really freaky at those times when a load of covanent or flood jump out at you

SuprSi · 21-10-2003 3:24pm

Yeah it's definitely got some of the best in-game music I've ever come across, and comes on at just the right time as well. It's brilliant when the flood come along

Zombrex · 23-10-2003 9:50am

Originally posted by [-=RaVeN=-]
I'm finding the single player SOOOO boring. The levels are repeatitive and they just throw stupid amounts of enemies at you. HATE it.

While i didn't hate it myself, I did wonder what all the fuss was about .. I mean this is one of the very few games EDGE has give 10 out of 10 for, and they almost never do that (Mario 64 was the last I think)

The out door large scale battles with the other marines was pretty cool, but the indoor areas were so boring, exactly the same room over and over again. I mean how hard is it to design a slightly different room. And the bit where you have to go all the way back over the same area is very tedious. Half Life managed to have a huge game world with very little repetition, it can't be that hard

A good game, with some great parts, and definitly not the brilliant game it was made out to be and certainly not one of the top games ever made.

Halo 2 looks a lot better, with large city battles a lot more like Half Life 2 .. if they take the best bits from Halo, and get rid of the crap indoor levels, and repetative nature I think they will have a brilliant game on there hands

23-10-2003 10:27am

a bit off topic but is ne1 here getting really bad fps? I have an ati 9000 radeon which can handle modern games like vice city and unreal tournament 2003 with no slowdown whatsoever and with effects and textures maxed out.
Even in 640/480 its slowing down.

Bit annoying as halo doenst exactly look like a demanding game.

Zombrex · 23-10-2003 10:46am

Originally posted by Jabba
a bit off topic but is ne1 here getting really bad fps? I have an ati 9000 radeon which can handle modern games like vice city and unreal tournament 2003 with no slowdown whatsoever and with effects and textures maxed out.
Even in 640/480 its slowing down.

Bit annoying as halo doenst exactly look like a demanding game.

Halo defaults to using version 2.0 pixel shaders found in DirectX 9 ... these are very sooooo and most cards don't do them particularly well at the moment.

You want to run Halo using version 1.4 or 1.1 Pixel Shaders found in DirectX 8.

To do this you want to put the command -use11 or -use14 after the Halo.exe

example -

"C:\Program Files\Halo\halo.exe" -use11

You will lose some of the fancy texture effects (bumpmapping etc) but Halo should now run much faster, and there is no point having the effects if your frame rate is 5 fps.

there are also commands to stop Joystick polling (-nojoystick I think) and other stuff that will increase framerate slightly.

It boggles the mind that Gearbox would release Halo with the default set up requiring graphics cards that don't exist yet to run a 2 year old game .. they should have defaulted to the normal pixel shaders and allowed people to move up when they got better hardware.

po0k · 23-10-2003 2:37pm

I installed it on my PC last night and started playing throuh the singleplayer.
FPS are steady and smooth, and I'm not worried about the graphics.
The singleplayer experience has left me utterly disappointed.
It feels like a cheap-ass watered down version of so many other FPSes I've played already. Waste of money.
I'll give the multiplayer a shot tonight, I only hope it's up to the grade. If not, I'll be returning it promptly tomorrow morning.

This is more a comment on the game itself than a comparison of the XBOX vs PC versions (which, technically at least, should be nearly identical when running on GF3-class hardware or above).

DeVore · 23-10-2003 3:50pm

Play the single player part with a mate in coop mode and it takes on a WHOLE new dimension. Its excellent fun.

DeV.

Roller Toaster · 23-10-2003 5:10pm

Have to agree, I played through Halo on Legendary with a friend and it was without a doubt the best gaming experience I've ever had.

Gonzo · 23-10-2003 5:18pm

unfortunately the pc version does not support this co-op mode.

23-10-2003 10:50pm

sweet thanks for that wicknight

po0k · 24-10-2003 1:14am

Played a few rounds of MP tonight against Asok on the LAN, was fun

Forwarded the port to his machine and we hosted a small 4-player game (conenction might support 4-external clients - 128upload).
Posted the IP up on #boards.ie
If anyone's around on Sunday or Monday night, fancy a game?
Hope that the Co-op mode is added again in a later patch. More games should have such a feature.

Currently running version 1.02

BKtje · 24-10-2003 5:07am

that don't exist yet to run a 2 year old game

They do exist tho only in the 9700 and above. Any directx8 card has this setting by default i think? Tho may be wrong there.

Halo does not perform very well on computers with graphics cards that don't fully support DirectX 9, such as nVidia's FX series and ATI's Radeon 9500 and 9600.

The 9700(and above) fully supports all the advanced directx9 features.

Read an interview about it here

Falgorn · 24-10-2003 12:50pm

Why the hell do no pc games have co-op single player anymore? its so popular amongst gamers, is it hard to program or something? Even the co-op sinlge missions in Vietcong are pretty good fun, and certainly better than nothing!! And surely the biggest attraction to Halo on the X-box was the co-op mode? just baffles the mind!!

Zombrex · 24-10-2003 5:47pm

Originally posted by B-K-DzR
The 9700(and above) fully supports all the advanced directx9 features.

Read an interview about it here

They do support them, but that doesn't mean they do them well ... Halo on version 2.0 pixel shaders is a perfect example, it runs to slow even on high end graphic cards

The graphics cards coming out after Christmas should make small work of Halo

BKtje · 24-10-2003 7:07pm

They dont fully support them (ie they dont make short work of it as u said)

I have no problems at all running Halo. (well odd slowdown in singpllayer whena **** load of AI running around using up the cpu) Online i havent had a single problem.

Ryo Hazuki · 25-10-2003 8:02pm

Im unimpressed with halos performance on my PC.
Gets VERY slow on some multiplayer levels. Ive tried use11 an use14 (PS 1.1 , 1.4)

ATI 9800 np (bios/f) @ 405mhz / 769mhz

XP 1800+ @ 1.7ghz (TB)

Im thinking of gettin a 2600+ Barton, should speed thing up a little in most games, including halo.

Is the 2500+ better for overclocking though?, Think I read that somewhere.

also, I wonder is it possible to play halo co- op on xbox, using 2 separate TV's? Would make the game even more amazing.

Halo Co-op = Best thing evar

_CreeD_ · 25-10-2003 8:21pm

Why upgrade for Halo? It's not like you'll actually get any eyecandy return. It looks dated and plays embarassingly slowly unless you disable Anisotropic filtering and just about every technical impressive but visually minor effect.
I love the game, but this port is awful. You shouldn't have to turn off so many things to get a half decent frame rate on a game that looks about 2-3 years old.

Ryo Hazuki · 26-10-2003 4:44pm

a game that looks about 2-3 years old

You need new glasses. Halo looks better than just about anything on any format.

BLITZ_Molloy · 26-10-2003 5:14pm

The game looks fine. Something like Unreal2 is prettier on a technical level but the graphic design stinks.

If anything I think it's the repetition in the level design that detracts from Halo's visual impact. You see the same things over and over again. I'm hoping the sequel has more varied environments.

_CreeD_ · 26-10-2003 6:12pm

Originally posted by Ryo Hazuki
You need new glasses. Halo looks better than just about anything on any format.

Oh dear god. ROFLMAO
I'm not getting into this as that was such a completely ludicrous statement, I could sit here all day listing titles that look infinitely better.

BKtje · 26-10-2003 7:17pm

Fairly sure it doesnt look like a 3yr old game. Unreal Tournament is a 3yr old game and this looks a hell of a lot better than it.

Theres a few games that look better but i dont think you'd be sitting here all day.

Rnger · 27-10-2003 11:00pm

Originally posted by SyxPak

Hope that the Co-op mode is added again in a later patch. More games should have such a feature.

Never gunna happen methinks

for the same reasons that you cant play 4-player co-op on two xboxes. The sheer mass of ****e running around throughout the game just cant go over the network at an acceptable speed /dontreallyknowwhatimtalkingabout

but its somkething like that as to why it wont be happening anytime soon:D

BLITZ_Molloy · 28-10-2003 10:59am

The single played game isn't much cop is it? I just finished it today. It's just your typical 'get from point A to point B' game with a wilfully cheezy si-fi plot. At least Half Life had some interesting environments and set pieces to punctuate the action.

krattapopov · 28-10-2003 7:48pm

i downloaded the halo trial demo off of microsofts website, now i have a:
2.8 p4
512 mb ram
and a geforce 3 ti 200

every other game i have works fine from flashpoint, moh, UT2K3 and so on but when i try to start it i get an error saying....

a problem occured initalizing direct3d. hardware acceleration maybe disabled, please run DXDIAG

now i have directx 9.0b and i ran all the tests and they all passed, i have all the latest drivers too...

i just want to know for myself what it is like on pc as i have an xbox... any suggestions would be greatful

Swifty · 28-10-2003 8:17pm

Just recently got to play the X-box version on a mates X-box and jesus, multiplayer mode is FUN. Rally mode is fantastic fun.. racing for those checkpoints as you sneakily hop onto the back of your truck and use the turret to gun down your friends just before they get to the checkpoints. I don't think there is anything more satisfying than stealing a truck and leaving the other player to walk while laughing in his face.. Brilliant fun

Only played one level co-op, must try some more soon.

Ryo Hazuki · 28-10-2003 8:53pm

.

I'm not getting into this as that was such a completely ludicrous statement, I could sit here all day listing titles that look infinitely better.

Go on, name 3.

But your only allowed to have 1 based on unreal warfare, and the games must be available now.

Cant wait to see what you come up with...

LegacyUser · 28-10-2003 10:43pm

halo totaly sux the donkey, graphics are laughable, on x-box and pc, you'd need 2000 antialiasing to smooth out the ladders in this piece of shít, playin a real game now, max payne 2, lovely

_CreeD_ · 29-10-2003 4:51am

Originally posted by Ryo Hazuki
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Go on, name 3.

But your only allowed to have 1 based on unreal warfare, and the games must be available now.

Cant wait to see what you come up with...

Actually I could name a hell of a lot more than 3, and while I normally do stay away from something once I say I'm done I'll humour you and even just stick to the FPS/TPS's I've played personally most recently (no mention of other styles like Hegemonia, Freelancer etc. or the many I haven't played personally):

Unreal 2 - PC
Freedom Fighters - PC
Brute Force - Xbox

Nothing personal mate, but you need to play a few more games before you make definitive statements like that. I loved Halo on the Xbox, one of my fave games of all time, but the PC version is a cop out of a port.

Retr0gamer · 29-10-2003 11:09am

I actually found Halo to be a far better looking game than the 3 you mentioned especially the PC version. Unreal 2 my have a better engine but looks nowhere near as good as Halo thanks to a lack of imagination and boring artwork.

gibreal · 29-10-2003 12:25pm

Can any1 actually notice the difference between Pixel shader 1.4 and 2.0. Got a 9700pro and I can't say I see any difference(besides a performance increase even after taking screenshots.)

Halo xbox vs Halo PC

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