Half-Life 2 delayed until April 2004 !!!!!

CombatCow · 07-10-2003 11:59am #1

OMFG!!

The theft of part of its source code has delayed until April 2004 the launch of Half Life II, the hotly anticipated alien-hunting game of Vivendi Universal Games. "A third of the source code was stolen. It's serious because it forces us to delay the launch of the game by at least four months, that is to April 2004. Just the time to rewrite parts of the game."

http://www.gamershell.com/news_BHalf-Life2Bdelayeduntil.shtml

:eek: MotherFukkers :eek:

CombatCow

mr_angry · 07-10-2003 12:17pm

*sobs*

Why God why?

ixoy · 07-10-2003 12:44pm

<adopts cold stare> They say murder isn't justifiable. I say these are extenuating circumstances. The thieves who stole that code and delayed my game must pay. Pay terminally.

shinzon · 07-10-2003 12:49pm

Oh for **** sake, I knew it I just bloody knew it, i spend a fortune on getting my PC up to spec and what ****ing happens

DELAYED UNTIL 200 AND ****ING 4

Im beginning to wonder whether all of this is just a delay tactic to be honest

Well make up a story to say such and such that way we can have more development time cause the games seriously ****ed up.

Im wondering will we ever see it now, come April Valve gone bankrupt due to utter stupidity

Shin

ixoy · 07-10-2003 12:51pm

Oh well we'll play Max Payne 2 and Deus Ex 2 until then...

[CrimsonGhost] · 07-10-2003 12:52pm

That's bollox. Any developer knows to make regular backups and keep them seperate from you main dev machine. I find it very hard to believe that a software house has no source control system running nightly backups My money is on Valve leaking some source, claiming it was HL2 source, and then using it as an excuse to give themselves some breathing time for the games release.

smiaras · 07-10-2003 12:54pm

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amp · 07-10-2003 1:00pm

I always thought Sept 30 was too good to be true. I expect to wait a good few years for games I really want. Duke Nukem 4EVAR and Doom3 have beaten this pessimism into me.

But as the man says "All good things come to those who wait".

Be strong comrades.

feylya · 07-10-2003 1:01pm

<Distant Stare>Why won't they let me play? Why do they keep it from me? They said I could play with it at the end of September. Why?</Distant Stare>

Ah BOLLOX!

Balfa · 07-10-2003 1:02pm

this will be the best game ever and nothing can ever surpass it.

feylya · 07-10-2003 1:05pm

Originally posted by Balfa
this will be the best game ever and nothing can ever surpass it.

That's what they said about Duke Nukem Forever and Diakatana.

Falgorn · 07-10-2003 1:06pm

Oohhh consipracy theory's.. I rekon ATI paid Valve to fake an early release date so ppl would go out and buy 9800 & 9600 pro's, and then in April when its actually out there will be a 9900 and 10,000 pro for the same prices... You see Microsoft is starting to rub off on other software manufacturors.

In fairness we can bitch and moan when we here a release date from Vivendi or Valve, any speculation until then is fruitless. All the same, if any of this has been for marketing purposes, I will NOT buy Half life 2 no matter how good it is.

Shred · 07-10-2003 1:06pm

Well that's just f*ckin great news:mad:

marrakesh · 07-10-2003 1:08pm

Valve didnt rush the first one there not going to rush the second one..

Remember the slogan "No Pain, No Gain"..

Thank god i didnt upgrade me system...

kaimera · 07-10-2003 1:21pm

DELAYED UNTIL 200 AND ****ING 4

should that not be 2000 and ****ing 4 ??

Scruff · 07-10-2003 1:29pm

Very suspicious now.
Reckon when they saw how far back doom3 is pushed and what a load of ****e Halo pc was so they decided to leak that their code was stolen to justify pushing it back.
They might as well convert it to 64 bit as well casue by the time it finally comes out in september 2004 (yeah it'll be pushed back again) Athlon64's will also be in good supply.

Feeling a bit like shinzon, but i havent actually upgraded yet...
Going to go ahead though and buy new parts cause not much will play on my back-up, back-up mobo and cpu that i'm using (celeron 400:rolleyes: ) will soldier on with the geforce4 ti for another few months though.

CivilServant · 07-10-2003 1:39pm

Originally posted by Comic store Guy
I will NOT buy Half life 2 no matter how good it is.

Agreed!

F*k Valve anyway! This mess is totally their fault. Shoddy security is their responsibility for the (would be) biggest game of 2003. 2004 ..... I can't wait that long! SOB..£"$^"£$!

netman · 07-10-2003 1:48pm

hahhaa this is just the sorriest excuse i've ever heard!

delayed because the source code has been stolen?!
it's not like it's missing, it's not like a car that's been stolen.
they still have the same source code, it's just that half the internet has it, too.

i'm guessing it's probably full of bugs and half-finished (no pun intended) and now every developer can see that. or they were stealing code from other engines and it's now in the public domain. if they come out with an engine that uses stolen code they'll be up for a nice law suit. so they now have to re-write all that nice stolen code.

in any case, what a lame excuse!

shinzon · 07-10-2003 2:08pm

Originally posted by Kaimera
should that not be 2000 and ****ing 4 ??

Grumbles im so mad i forgot the 0

Shin should be locked up he really should........ Its only a game.........Its only a game.........

Retr0gamer · 07-10-2003 2:27pm

Great, I'll probably have to upgrade the danm pc again. I already spent almost 500 yoyos on it just for this game. I could have gotten a jap saturn and radiant silvergun for that money. It will probably be crap when it comes out (sorry for my pessimism (sp

) but I'm broke and I've nothing to show for it except a pc that runs smegging unreal 2 and max payne 2 at decent speeds, Grrr)

Matt Simis · 07-10-2003 2:42pm

Originally posted by Retr0gamer
Great, I'll probably have to upgrade the danm pc again. I already spent almost 500 yoyos on it just for this game. I could have gotten a jap saturn and radiant silvergun for that money.

Uh... Saturn? I like cool old stuff as much as anyone, but I think that amount of money was much better spent on PC upgrades.

Besides, this is just one game that was sounding less and less enticing the closer it got to release (read the latest Steam Software Licensing agreements?).
There are many other games, potientially better games, coming out before April 2004.

Matt

feylya · 07-10-2003 2:48pm

Has anybody wondered if Half-Life2 was delayed so they could make Steam P2P like they have to? Half-Life 2 is going to be the big thing for Steam but at the moment, Steam is having trouble downloading a 6 megs update file to everyone, never mind a 1.2gig game!

Matfinn · 07-10-2003 2:54pm

Reading some of your replies to this news, it is indeed **** for some, but you are overreacting way too much. If you jus spent money upgrading your pc, then it will run half life in 2004 quite well.

Matt

feylya · 07-10-2003 3:10pm

Originally posted by Matfinn
Reading some of your replies to this news, it is indeed **** for some, but you are overreacting way too much. If you jus spent money upgrading your pc, then it will run half life in 2004 quite well.

Matt

What it seems you fail to realise is that if VALVe ahd said it was coming out in 2004 originally, we would have waited til then to get faster and cheaper hardware.

scojones · 07-10-2003 3:22pm

And there i was, contemplating spending 700euro on komplett.ie to build a new box so i could play the likes of hl2. Oh well, good thing i found this out today and not tommorrow..... Bollox!!!

tman · 07-10-2003 3:42pm

Originally posted by Combatcow
The theft of part of its source code has delayed until April 2004 the launch of Half Life II, the hotly anticipated alien-hunting game of Vivendi Universal Games.

alien hunting?
thought it was supposed to be more of a mad struggle for survival than actual hunting

*clears throat*
****bollocksgeebagtesticlescrapsmoo********ramsanusdonkeyflangemonkeyspunk... etc etc

shinzon · 07-10-2003 3:48pm

I suppose i can wait a couple more months for this, gives me a chance to upgrade a little bit more 2

ill have half life 2 running smoother than a baboons arse by the time im finished

shin

Creamy Goodness · 07-10-2003 4:08pm

i think the hack was valves fault entirely like gabe notice suspicous activity on the 11th of septemeber and the code was copied on the 19th that's a full week to do something about it.

but according to planet-halflife this delay is NOT OFFICAL

http://www.planethalflife.com

also its says they have the name of the hackers

tman · 07-10-2003 4:11pm

ah, its all gravy as far as i'm concerned.
gives me time to build a new pc:)

*chuckles at the stupidity of everyone who upgraded for hl2*

DeVore · 07-10-2003 4:19pm

If they progress with the game as is the hax out there would make the ones for HL seem like minor console tweaks.

I'm glad Valve are doing this, better to wait a few more months then to rush a game out anyway.
Pity about the people who have upgraded but 1) you chose to 2) you're ninja machines will still play it just as well... I doubt between here and April they are going to rewrite the rendering engine! You'll get the same fps then as you would have today. And you get to have that hardware for all that extra time to play things like Deus Ex 2 etc.

DeV.

Creamy Goodness · 07-10-2003 4:28pm

i agree with dev they ain't going be changing the engine of the game it will still play the way it was meant to.

lucky i didn't upgrade my gfx card with the rest of my pc hehe

i will wait til hl2 is out to buy a new card.

also small bit of other news MAX PAYNE 2 is GONE GOLD Oct. 24th

me can't wait

scojones · 07-10-2003 4:33pm

i'm not too pushed on max payne for some reason...

Shinji · 07-10-2003 4:39pm

I'm glad Valve are doing this

I'm glad they're not releasing an unfinished game. I think it's pretty lame that they're lying about the reasons, though. This delay is nothing to do with the source leak - I have it on pretty good authority that Vivendi were informed that the game wouldn't make 2003 back in August.

mr_angry · 07-10-2003 4:40pm

What they'll be changing is:

Networking
Packet Structure
CD-Key Security

To first two - to stop cheaters. The latter - to stop people cracking the game. If they released the game as-is, every little 12-year old american kid with a whiney voice and an appetite for cheating would be wooping your ass every time you log onto an Internet server.

However, they could have released the single player, and then just patched the game at a later date. I'd say the delay is most likely caused by the security modifications they'll be making, and they just decided to do the rest at the same time.

Creamy Goodness · 07-10-2003 4:46pm

are u guys forgetting that valve have not confirm this delay you never know if it's true

there's a slight chance that it will not be.

shinzon · 07-10-2003 4:49pm

Been confirmed by vivendi here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3172282.stm

Shin

amp · 07-10-2003 4:59pm

Originally posted by Cr3m0
are u guys forgetting that valve have not confirm this delay you never know if it's true

there's a slight chance that it will not be.

So we should pop into Smyths just in case it really was released on 30 September?

Creamy Goodness · 07-10-2003 5:03pm

remember when valve said at E3 it will be out on 30sept. most of us believe that. a day later VUGames came out and said it will be holidays 2003, valve denied this claim. i think if the hackers didn't hack valve we woulda of been looking at a sept 30th no doubt.

i'll wait for offical word from valve before i believe april2004

but that date would be handy as my birthday is in april

honru · 07-10-2003 5:12pm

Wow. I mean, I was pissed when Halo 2 was delayed until April 2004, but this is just an almighty kick in the teeth.

po0k · 07-10-2003 5:40pm

I happen to ahve the source sitting in a .rar on a machine.

Must take a look at it.

Extremely small though, packed to 42megs, apparently unpacks to ~170megs.

I reckon it's just a marketing ploy, but like you said Rob I'm a bit miffed over them not just coming out and saying it's not finished.

At least ID are confident enough in themselves to say "It's done when it's done".

This April release fits into my yearly schedule very nicely. My exams are in March and then I'm off on work experience. Will be just the thing to keep me occupied while I label bunches of differnt coloured cable in Qualtech.

The nVidia/ATi scandle is interesting to. history seems to be repeating itself.
NVidia may be getting lazy and just pumping more muscle and clock-speeds at things (just like 3Dfx in the twilight days) instead of trying to do things better.
I'm almost swayed to buy a 9800XT......in 4 months

Pepe LeFrits · 07-10-2003 6:18pm

Originally posted by feylya
That's what they said about Duke Nukem Forever and Diakatana.

'they' must have been morons

Dooom · 07-10-2003 6:49pm

or...or maybe all this is just some big stupid annoying marketing scheme and hl2 will actually be out in like a week!!

yeah don't worry, i'm gone.....stupid lame-ass hackers...

theciscokid · 07-10-2003 6:53pm

the game plays well as it is, i say release it already

feylya · 07-10-2003 7:16pm

Originally posted by kaids
'they' must have been morons

'they' being every games magazine I have ever read about those two games. Yet, you call them morons. Hmmm.

Deadwing · 07-10-2003 7:39pm

I wonder if John Romero, if that is in fact his real name, can remember his whereabouts on Sept 11th 2003.
I bet youll find the source code on his computer under the name "Daikatana 2: i told you it would be f*cking good". Go burn down his house!!!

BluE-WinG · 07-10-2003 7:56pm

Ahh the betas out, that should tide us over til the full game comes around

Big Ears · 07-10-2003 10:05pm

i was going to get it for my brother for christmas

feylya · 07-10-2003 11:19pm

Eh, nobodies has actually confirmed the delay at this point. Vivendi only said could delay it.

suppafly · 08-10-2003 12:03am

yeah it has. Its on the bbc site that someone posted up awhile back

feylya · 08-10-2003 12:09am

From Halfelife2.net,

One of Germany's biggest PC gaming magazines, Gamestar, are reporting that there is the potential for Half-Life 2 to be pushed back as far as April 2004 according to a statement by the president of VU Games, Christophe Ramboz. An article on CNN has spawned backing up these claims, revealing that Ramboz also stated that only a third of the code was leaked, and it is because of the leak that various aspects of the game need to be re-written, causing the delay.

Potential, not definate delay.

Update:

Valve Responds to Vivendi Delay

10/7/2003 16:18 PST

HalfLife.org has received a reply from Valve Marketing Director Doug Lombardi regarding the Vivendi HL2 April 2004 delay announcement:

"We are still assessing the effects of the attack. At this time, we have no further details we can share regarding the theft nor it's impact on the release of Half-Life 2."

Swifty · 08-10-2003 6:53pm

Hardly surprising. Wasn't the first one delayed for a year or two aswell? Like other people said get over it and enjoy Deus ex 2 and the likes. Pity cause I might be getting a new computer around xmas

Half-Life 2 delayed until April 2004 !!!!!

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