DOGs on RTE!!!

Ludo

Why why why have RTE decided that they need to splash their bloody logo on the screen at all times. Do they really think we are that stupid that we dont know what channel we are watching?

I have mailed them about this and I hope others will also join in. BBC tried this briefly but the complaints they received made them take them off again.

Owenw

Good idea. What email address did you use? press@rte.ie is the only one I can find on their website for customer comments, do they have a complaints email address?

Lucutus

Yea, as a tv license holder*, that's really starting to piss me off too.

Where/who exactly did you email about this, and what reply have you received, (if any?)

Luc



* after years of simply not paying for one, finally, I've purchased the right to legitimatly complain about RTE!

Ludo

Originally posted by Owenw
Good idea. What email address did you use? press@rte.ie is the only one I can find on their website for customer comments, do they have a complaints email address?

There is a list of email addresses at:

http://www.rte.ie/about/contact/index.html

I mailed the first one:

General enquiries and comments: info@rte.ie

IgnatiusJRiley

i like it

Owenw

Originally posted by Lucutus
Yea, as a tv license holder*, that's really starting to piss me off too.

Where/who exactly did you email about this, and what reply have you received, (if any?)

Luc



* after years of simply not paying for one, finally, I've purchased the right to legitimatly complain about RTE!

LOL, that's the first good reason I've ever heard for buying a licence!

celticfc

Lads, this is already being discussed in the broadcasting forum.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117036

Ludo

I mailed RTE about this also and got the standard reply. However today I got a proper reply which I didnt expect:

Thank you for your e-mail in relation to our newly
introduced channel identifiers, also known inhouse
as ‘bugs’.

This is the first week of RTÉ One and RTÉ Network 2
having on-screen logos for all programmes except News
(which has its own RTÉ News logo) and live sport where
the existing practice of the on-screen RTÉ clock will
continue.

The channel identifier, is one of a series of actions
designed to position RTÉ more clearly within a
constantly changing broadcasting environment.

It is unfortunate that you find the ‘bugs’ distracting
and annoying. The translucent design was chosen so that
they would not interfere with viewing as far as
possible, but merely identify each channel more clearly.

We have noted your comments and RTÉ Television
management and the RTÉ Executive Board will be informed
of all public reaction to the 'bugs' over the next
number of weeks.

Gerard, for your information, you would be amazed at
the number of people who telephone RTÉ looking to buy
copies of TV3 programmes and/or think that TV3 is an
RTÉ station.

Thank you for taking the time to write and we hope that
you will continue to enjoy the range of programmes that
are being aired as part of the new season on RTÉ One
and RTÉ Network 2.

Yours sincerely

Brigitte
RTÉ Communications

Winters

I got the exact email back too Ludo, word for word. Seems to have just been a mailer sent out to anyone who complained.

Shows rté couldnt give a toss ***. The email I had sent doesnt even relate to the complaints as outlined in that reply back from rté... I winder if they even read it

Duo

Well, it is a pretty minor thing. ^_~

And I think they forgot to mention The Den! They must take the channel logo off then, right? Because they've had the Den logo in some corner of the scree for years. THE FOOLS!

Sleipnir

I just wonder,. what is the fuping point of them?
What purpose do they serve?
I KNOW I'm watching RTE, I don't need RTE to constantly remind me;
"You are watching RTE1"
"You are still watching RTE1"
"Still, You are watching RTE1"
"In case you have forgotten, you're still watching RTE1"

I mean, what is the bloody point?!!?!?!

Duo

Well, there's always the off-chance of you flicking over and back between the two stations REALLY quickly, until you don't know what's-what, in which case those bugs will be your saviour.

Owenw

Presumably they (RTE) consider the majority of their viewers to be suffering from Attention Deficit Disorder, senilility or terminal short term memory loss.

These poor unfortunates are also unable to see their TV's inbuilt onscreen channel name or number, or use the Aertel service, Sky EPG, Search and Scan banner or even use their Sherlock Holmes-like powers of deduction to work out what channel they are watching with nothing more than a copy of the RTE Guide.

Praise be to allah for the on screen graphic!

Now if they could just add some equally useful onscreen braille ident and an audio reminder for the hard of hearing...

Occidental

Damn,

I was sure this was going to be about Nuala Carey and that other yoke from AA Roadwatch

parasite

but if people say it's damaging their tv's by burning imprints on them, surely they're obliged to get rid

Mossy Monk

that arguement hasnt worked anywhere else

Sleipnir

Ha!
I sent a mail complaining about these bloody things.
I also pasted in Brigitte's standard reply above saying

"If you want to reply with the standard email you've been sending to everyone else, I have copied it in below so you can just hit 'Reply' and then copy & paste"




This is the answer I got...

"Comments from viewers are helpful in assessing the
response to the channel identifyers.

You copying the RTÉ response is just smart!

You would be surprised how many people phone into RTÉ
requesting TV3 programmes, and/or are unsure whether a
programme was broadcast on RTÉ, TV3 or other.

I have nothing further to say to you that you are not
already aware of.

Thank you for taking the time to write your views,
which have been logged for further review by management
in relation to this new branding initiative.

Kind Regards"

Brigitte
RTÉ Communications

Originally posted by Occidental
Damn,

I was sure this was going to be about Nuala Carey and that other yoke from AA Roadwatch

Rofl

Don't be dissing nuala now , she's a very nice person

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by Man
Don't be dissing nuala now , she's a very nice person

how come i have yet to see her give a weather report for Ireland. it's always the continent

Winters

Originally posted by Owenw
Now if they could just add some equally useful onscreen braille ident and an audio reminder for the hard of hearing...

They are only giving what their viewers need


I dont really mind it too much on RTE One, as there is nothing on that channel execpt Murder She Wrote and the Midweek movie.

Network2 is where it does really annoy me. RTE have tried for so long to make Network2 look in some way indopendent. Hence why its called like Network2 insted of RTE Two and the like. Also the news was always News2 up until a month ago when it was changed to RTE News on Two. Possibly they now feel very threatened by TV3 and TG4 that they are trying to highlight what they own.

Thats why i get pissed off when i see RTE N2 on Network2 insted of just N2. And also when they have it on with the Den tag. I find it stupid to have both tags on at the same time. RTE are just stupid.

Elmo

I could understand the N2 symbol (without the RTÉ beside)

As the have the Den (a children's channel on in the morning)
Then ID from 5:30 until 8 (a teeny bobber channel0
and the N2 for the beloved 15 to 35 year old age group.

but why put RTE beside N2
and why put the DOG/BUG beside the Den's Bug?


I think The IPU should take over N2 anyway.

Bring back News 2 (but with a real set)

Also is anyone that stupid not to know TV3 is not RTÉ, I mean TG4 get sore when you call them RTÉ.

Originally posted by Elmo

Also is anyone that stupid not to know TV3 is not RTÉ, I mean TG4 get sore when you call them RTÉ.

I think some corporate head in RTE has got these bugs on their brain and thinks they are a good idea.
The RTE beside N2 looks plain stupid.
Why not go the whole hog and put a scrolling banner across the top of the screen as follows: Radio Telifís éireann 625 line transmission from Donnybrook Dublin 4 in colour

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If the people that came up with the idea of these stupid "Bugs" think that anyone watching Fair city doesn't know they are watching RTE, then it is they that are stupid.
I'm already watching less RTE as I cant stand the things:mad:

Owenw

Originally posted by Winters
Network2 is where it does really annoy me. RTE have tried for so long to make Network2 look in some way indopendent. Hence why its called like Network2 insted of RTE Two and the like. Also the news was always News2 up until a month ago when it was changed to RTE News on Two. Possibly they now feel very threatened by TV3 and TG4 that they are trying to highlight what they own.

Thats why i get pissed off when i see RTE N2 on Network2 insted of just N2. And also when they have it on with the Den tag. I find it stupid to have both tags on at the same time. RTE are just stupid.

Mmm, I also liked the "independant" feel of Network 2 last few years. It was almost like the Irish cousin of BBC2 with some funny prog.'s on a monday evening.

I rarely watch any RTE these days except to check out these awful on screen graphics!
I wonder have viewing figures increased with the addition of the bugs / mysterious white box and the discussion that has ensued?! They got 10 mins out of me this week

Isn't TG4 broadcast by RTÉ?
If so, what's next, an RTÉ TG4 ident???

I notice the TG4 ident is very transparent and smooth compared to the rough and ready RTE 1 N2 graphics.

Channel idents would make sense (from a channel execs' POV) if RTE channels were available free to air in the UK and placed on some obscure channel numbers way down the EPG list. I wonder is this what RTE is considering?

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by Owenw
Isn't TG4 broadcast by RTÉ?
If so, what's next, an RTÉ TG4 ident???

not thank god. it is a seperate organisation. RTÉ give them programming though. TG4 already have on screen identification. it is so small you'd barely notice it

oneweb

They're slightly smaller and slightly more transparent - good but not quite good enough. They could do with being even smaller and more transparent. Caught a glimpse of that lil white box in the top rhs a few times - that I could live with. For a while at least.

Ludo

Originally posted by Kananga


You copying the RTÉ response is just smart!

You would be surprised how many people phone into RTÉ
requesting TV3 programmes, and/or are unsure whether a
programme was broadcast on RTÉ, TV3 or other.

I have nothing further to say to you that you are not
already aware of.

Kind Regards"

Brigitte
RTÉ Communications

She actually sent this to you?? This is a disgraceful response to send a licence fee holder. Talk about bloody rude. If this was a private company sending this kind of email to a customer she would be in bug trouble if she was complained about.

Elmo

Could everyone in boards just write an email asking them to remove the dogs/bugs.

Brigit will be delighted

Sleipnir

Originally posted by Ludo
She actually sent this to you?? This is a disgraceful response to send a licence fee holder. Talk about bloody rude. If this was a private company sending this kind of email to a customer she would be in bug trouble if she was complained about.

Yup, that was the exact resonse I got. They really are untouchable. They do whatever they want and feck the public's opinion.

mike65

A letter to the Times I think!

Mike.