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"Zimbabwe, Eritrea... Ireland?"

  • 29-09-2003 6:02pm
    #1
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    "Zimbabwe, Eritrea... Ireland?
    Patrick Weever blows the whistle on the Irish minister plotting state-regulated journalism"
    -The Observer - September 28, 2003

    "RING OUT THE ALARM BELLS AGAINST STATE REGULATED JOURNALISM IN EUROPE
    Has Michael McDowell gone mad? Has power, a notoriously corrosive drug, undone his thought processes and rendered him a gibbering idiot? Or is there more sinister method to his madness?"
    - By Alan Ruddock anti-spin.com

    Has McDowell lost all sense of reality?

    (edited: fixed quote)


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  • #2
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Originally posted by monument

    Has McDowell lost all sense of reality?


    I think a more appropiate question is

    "Did McDowell every have any sense of reality"


  • #3
    Floater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Floater


    Originally posted by irish1
    I think a more appropiate question is

    "Did McDowell every have any sense of reality"


    What crap. Neither posting has an IPAN (Internet Posting Authorization Number).

    While IPANs won't be required until 1.1.2004 anybody in their right mind is getting clearance in advance of posting anything at this stage. IPANs are free for the first year!

    Floater

    Posting IPAN: IE3894-2324-3201-4492-8711-3284-2992


  • #4
    Villain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Originally posted by Floater
    What crap. Neither posting has an IPAN (Internet Posting Authorization Number).

    While IPANs won't be required until 1.1.2004 anybody in their right mind is getting clearance in advance of posting anything at this stage. IPANs are free for the first year!

    Floater

    Posting IPAN: IE3894-2324-3201-4492-8711-3284-2992

    Can someone explain what he means??


  • #5
    Floater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Floater


    Originally posted by irish1
    Can someone explain what he means??

    The next iteration in the McDowell agenda to force you to get pre-clearance for everything you post on the internet.

    Floater


  • #6
    Floater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭Floater


    Originally posted by irish1
    Well I'd prefer if you didn't quote my postings and refer to them like:
    :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Please don't take it seriously and I'm sure a zillion others were wondering about IPANs like u too.

    While one assumes that Minister McDowell has good intentions one has to wonder where is it all going?

    While one rightly or wrongly associates the PDs with libertarianism, their current dynamic seems to me to be 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

    Floater


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  • #7
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Originally posted by irish1
    Can someone explain what he means??

    Maybe its called FUD or just the poster is trying to display techie superiority :D


  • #8
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Originally posted by Floater
    While one rightly or wrongly associates the PDs with libertarianism, their current dynamic seems to me to be 180 degrees in the opposite direction.

    Maybe I don’t know everything there is to know about them, however putting the PDs and libertarianism in the same line more then slightly confuses me.

    Are you really trying to link libertarianism to the PDs in the current Irish government?


  • #9
    sceptre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by Floater
    While one rightly or wrongly associates the PDs with libertarianism, their current dynamic seems to me to be 180 degrees in the opposite direction.
    Economic libertarianism (<cough> Chicago school</cough>). Nothing else.

    In other words, libertarianism like Pinochet's Chile.


  • #10
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Originally posted by sceptre
    In other words, libertarianism like Pinochet's Chile.

    Ah yes Goodbye Augusto Pinochet - Hello Mary Harney! :rolleyes:

    Mike.


  • #11
    sceptre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by mike65
    Ah yes Goodbye Augusto Pinochet - Hello Mary Harney! :rolleyes:
    Er quite. I'm obviously simply talking about economics (I did specify above see?), not anything else Pinochet managed to get up to. And yes, I'm exaggerating (and mentioning Chile(though not exaggarating there - it was run as an economic libertarianism & monetarism lab by the Chicago school of economics) to demonstrate that you can have laboratory-style economic libertarianism regardless of the regime.


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  • #12
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    4am is apparently the best time to send the sekrit police around. Little tip for Mikey there.

    adam


  • #13
    star gazer
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭star gazer


    Being in government seemed to change the PDs. They left their ideals behind them once they were able to reduce taxes, nothing alse seemed to matter. They would espouse to being progressive but really since McDowell took office there is a more conservative tinge to what he says and does than anything else. It is amazing to see a Fianna Fáil cabinet bring so dominated by one man.


  • #14
    The Saint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭The Saint


    info@michaelmcdowell.ie

    Heres his e-mail address if anyone would like to let their concerns be noted.


  • #15
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    As the Official McDowell-Appointed Feedback Review Agent, please send all comments and feedback to me first. Dahamsta Industries Cares About What You Have To Say, As Long As The Boss Agrees With It.

    adam


  • #16
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Originally posted by dahamsta
    4am is apparently the best time to send the sekrit police around. Little tip for Mikey there.

    adam

    They don't know where I am - Hell I don't know where I am!
    :ninja:

    Mike.


  • #17
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by dahamsta
    4am is apparently the best time to send the sekrit police around.
    Thats why they brought early pub closing time back on Thursday ... make sure you are home in bed before the ERU / ARW come through the dormer window. Of course you are safe at the weekends because the lads only do Mon-Fri.


  • #18
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Why come through the window? The knock on the door is all important to sekrit poleecmen.

    adam


  • #19
    sceptre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    The last sekrit polis to visit me came down the chimney. Ooh er missus


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