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Unisex Toilets

  • 04-09-2003 3:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭


    This seems like the best place to post this so here goes.

    What are people's opinions on unisex toilets in public places?

    I'm talking about having only cubicles. I can't see a reason for not having this it would save space, save money. Girls' **** smells aswell so don't even think about saying it doesn't girls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Puck


    With the amount of morons that seem incapable of avoiding the toilet-seat while having a piss I wouldn't say it'd be a very nice place for women to sit down. It's bad enough for me when I have to take a sh*t in the gents.

    I'd also be a bit worried about dirty women trying to see me willy. :)

    If people are happy using it and they behave like civilised adults then let them have it. But then again you can't always be sure people will act like civilised adults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Heresy


    it's a good idea but I don't think it'd work. Any time I'm in a night club there seems to be a massive queue out the door of the ladies bog. If I had to join a queue like that every time I needed to go for a slash my bladder would give up fairly quickly.
    That raises another question. What do the women get up to in the jacks that it takes so long?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    It might be workable in a civilised public place that gets cleaned regularly (like on ally mcbeal).

    There's no way you could have unisex toilets in somewhere like a pub or a club (although the girls seem to think using the men's toilets is both okay and men have to give up their place in the queue for a dump for them). Where would people go to gossip about which members of the opposite sex on the dancefloor are gagging for it, and girls would get practically raped every time they go for a leak. Plus the aforementioned problem of guys pissing everywhere but the bowl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by Heresy
    What do the women get up to in the jacks that it takes so long?
    They feel each other up while they talk about you.

    Happy now?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Originally posted by Puck
    With the amount of morons that seem incapable of avoiding the toilet-seat while having a piss I wouldn't say it'd be a very nice place for women to sit down. It's bad enough for me when I have to take a sh*t in the gents.
    Too right !

    As long as 70% of men seem incapable of going the toilet without spewing their waste all over the cubicle then this is an unacceptable idea.
    As a man myself... I never cease to be appalled at the disgusting toilet habits of such a high proportion of my fellow male huyman beings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Originally posted by k.oriordan
    and men have to give up their place in the queue for a dump for them.

    Girls may think it, but I've never seen it happen.

    I did have a mate kicked out of a club once for reversing the tables, and deciding that the queue in the mens wasn't worth waiting for and he wandered into the ladies.

    Strangely enough, that wasn't considered acceptable.

    Lets face it...its the modern definition of equality. Whats ours is theirs by right, and so is whats theirs.

    <ontopic>
    I'm for the idea, 100%.

    IMHO, the only real reason that men's toilets are so filthy is because those using the facilities are willing to put up with it.
    </ontopic>

    jc


    jc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Originally posted by bonkey
    I did have a mate kicked out of a club once for reversing the tables, and deciding that the queue in the mens wasn't worth waiting for and he wandered into the ladies.

    Strangely enough, that wasn't considered acceptable.


    It is infact illegal for a male to enter the ladies toilets :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Syth


    It is infact illegal for a male to enter the ladies toilets

    What about women entering men's toilets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭mr_angry


    IMHO, the only real reason that men's toilets are so filthy is because those using the facilities are willing to put up with it.

    You tend not to have much choice when you're stumbling off the dancefloor at 1:30am. There's a club in Dundalk that regularly accomodates about 900 people, and they have 1 gents cubicle. And do you think that cubicle is in a usable state at 1:30am? No chance!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    Originally posted by Syth
    What about women entering men's toilets?

    Think that is illegal as well, but you would never get a guy complaining .. imagine telling a drunk scanger bird to piss off back to her own toliet ... you wouldn't make it out of the club alive ...:p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Originally posted by Syth
    What about women entering men's toilets?

    No for a Lady would never enter the male faclities. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    No for a Lady would never enter the male faclities.

    I would in some situations for example if there is a toilet for men and one for women, just next to each other (one room toilets, not ones with cubicles and urinals etc), it seems stupid to wait for someone to get out of the women's while the men's one is empty.

    There were signs on the toilets in one building at uni - male toilet and female toilet and I found myself wondering if I could find a biology student who'd tell me about their mating habits:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Heresy


    They feel each other up while they talk about you.

    Happy now?


    Yes I am. Got rid of the paranoia after a stint in the looney factory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    I think there are a couple of problems associated with it.
    Firstly, urinals are more cost effective for publicans and unless they had a unisex toilet with a seperate room for urinals, I don't think it would catch on.

    The other main problems hygene. Men, as has been said, seem to have huge problems aiming in public toilets (and student houses for some strange reason) and guys toilets always seem to be generally grubbier than ladies toilets.

    That said, I worked as a barman throughout college and I've seen some things that you wouldn't believe in the ladies toilets. They can be every bit as scummy as guys and do some really hideously f*cked up things. Used tampons, vomit and the effects of using laxitive tablets (occasionally you would find the foil from the tablets and the evidence in the toilet bowel). I'm just glad I never had to clean them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Syth


    As for urinals, someone tried to make a female urinal (inspired by a scene in 'The Full Monty'), it was like a sticky-outy male urinal and the woman would have to squat over it to pee. Don't know if it took off...


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    On a vaguely tangential note, while working in a fairly classy restaurant/bar/nightclub in Toronto this summer i observed that 9 nights out of 10 the ladies 'washroom' was always much messier and dirtier than the mens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭loismustdie


    if they made a uni-sex toilet with enclosed urianls and toilets and no mirrors the world would be a better place!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Lukin Black


    University of Ulster at Coleraine's South Building has a unisex toilet with urinals. The urinals are kinda walled off, but the wall's only about chest height, and the cubicles are past the wall.

    Well weird using them with girls walking past in front of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,579 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    They are quite common on the continent. I suspect that with greater through traffic (throught the one room) there is less anti-social behavior.

    In the old Cyberia internet café (part of the Temple Bar Multimedia Centre) they had unisex toilets that worked quite well. Until some perv decided to stand on the toilet and look over :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I was in the Kremlin (a gay bar) in Belfast once and it was a unisex toilet . Very strange feeling

    Oh and heres on info on the womens urinal

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭HJ Simpson


    I think it would be a bit dodgey as long as you have drunk blokes and women lowering trousers on the other side of a wall/door that doesnt go the whole way to the ceiling. Other than that cant see any problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    There's unisex toilets in the gym in CIT. I never heard of a problem with them, and there must be a lot of traffic in there as the gym is used as an exam hall at the end of term. I never used them as I never had to go while I was in the gym, but I don't think I'd have a problem with it.



    If you think women aren't just as bad as men in the loo.....read this : http://www.mil-millington.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lavvy.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I seem to remember the unisex toilets in CIT having different male and female cubicles though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭Evil Phil


    Nothing is worse than the common-urinal, which is basically a single trough up against the wall. It's disgusting when the really drunk guy next to you lets loose for all he's got and you get caught in the splash-back. It's just horrible. I use the cubicle now.


    As for unisex toilets, dunno. I don't think I'd fancy a load of women outside listening to my bowels in action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Dakeyras


    There are actually unisex toilets in spy bar over by powerscourt centre, its only fairly new. It looks like a bit of a trendy bar and is v nice inside but isn't full of trendy up-their-own-arse types. Anyway off the point but they have unisex toilets, theres a guy permanently position to look after them as well. But the weird thing is that it's situated half way between the ground floor and the basement where the club is. hmmm, how to explain, it isn't in a separate room there's just a partition separating the cubicles from where they have their pool table area (another rarity in the city centre). Bit strange and if the pool table wasn't there with loads a people hanging around it, it might work. But it doesn't really, so if you want to have the experience of some unisex toilets then make your way over to spy bar and have a go.

    (btw it's a bit on the expensive side if your planning a piss-up in there.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Typedef


    Originally posted by Kappar
    Unisex Toilets.


    What's that supposed to be, a euphamism for "public brothel"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Well I was informed the reason the pool table was there was cos they couldnt put a bed there ........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭Blitzkrieger


    Originally posted by Victor
    Until some perv decided to stand on the toilet and look over :rolleyes:

    Sure they could just walk into the women's jacks and do that whenever they want - it's hardly exclusive to unisex toilets.

    There's a leisure centre in a town near where I live (I won't say where for fear of getting blamed for something). The changing rooms are right along the side wall, and the showers are right by the window. The heating is always jammed on in there so the windows are usually wide open. There's quite a busy path along the wall, and all anyone would have to do to look in is stop and poke their heads in under the open window. I was walking past one night when I knew two particularly stunning girls would be just about finishing their tennis game, and heard the showers going. What stopped me looking in?

    That I didn't want to be caught is the obvious answer. Why I didn’t want to get caught is the point I’m talking about; because it wouldn’t be decent behaviour. There’ll always be a few pervs who’ll cause problems but it isn’t confined to unisex bathrooms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭Specky


    True story:

    A place I used to work was a really small factory unit and there wasn't room for two seperate "toilet rooms" (bathrooms is a stupid name for them 'cos I've never had a bath in one) so there was one "room" with two cubicles and there was a free for all on which one you used.

    After a short while some of the girls started complaining because an unknown member of staff started leaving gigantic intergallactic space rockets made out of poo crash landed in the bog.

    This went on for a while until an executive decision was made and we bought a couple of little "man" and "woman" idiograms to stick on the doors so the boys could have their little room and the girls could have one of their own.

    Everyone was happy.....except that the space rockets continued to turn up....in the girlie bog!

    As someone earlier pointed out....girlies do them too, and they don't smell like Chanel No 5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Dakeyras


    Originally posted by Thaed
    Well I was informed the reason the pool table was there was cos they couldnt put a bed there ........

    and why not? a bed would be a great idea, have a bit of a lay down with your drink...... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    i think it is a good idea. any cleaner will tell you womens toilets are usually in more of a state than mens at the end of the night, i used to work cleaning and saw it first hand. i have heard it on radio phone in shows too and it is usually the female cleaners complaining most saying they are a disgrace. women do piss on seats too, just cause your sitting down doesnt mean it can only go in the bowl as any unashamed woman will tell you. also many women stand on the bowl and hunch down to wee due to piss on seats, causing more. the real bonus i see is i think people will be more likely to clean up after them if they think a member of the opposite sex is waiting outside and will immediately see what they left, most guys will clean the seat and i cant see women sticking used sanitary towels to the wall if they think a man is standing outside. another idea i wish more pubs had is blaring music in the toilets to drown out the horrible splash sound and to put people off standing around gossiping. another is cubicles which open after 3 minutes like some public ones. gets rid of the snorters, pukers, rollers, sleepers etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    3 minutes? I've taken dumps that have lasted a lot longer than 3 minutes. Would hate to have the door swing open in the middle of me taking a dump.

    I'd love to know what women's obsession with men leaving the toilet seat up as well is. Leaving it up is the correct way! That avoids piss getting on the seat when you're going to the toilet and it means that noone has to stick their hand under that damp place unnecessarily to pick it up (putting it down is a lot easier).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Originally posted by Dakeyras
    and why not? a bed would be a great idea, have a bit of a lay down with your drink...... :D

    ahhh you saw the last epie of sex in the city then :)


    pool table is not as in your face as a bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Dakeyras


    Originally posted by Thaed
    ahhh you saw the last epie of sex in the city then :)

    pool table is not as in your face as a bed.

    I did indeed see that episode of sex in the city, great idea, though how well it would actually work is another thing entirely. And i'd rather have a bed in my face than a pool table though.

    Originally posted by rubadub
    another is cubicles which open after 3 minutes like some public ones. gets rid of the snorters, pukers, rollers, sleepers etc

    ah now come on, leave the snorters and rollers alone at least :p but seriously, 3 minutes, door opens, and your still there trousers round the ankles, not a pretty scenario at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Originally posted by k.oriordan
    3 minutes? I've taken dumps that have lasted a lot longer than 3 minutes. Would hate to have the door swing open in the middle of me taking a dump.
    ok maybe 5mins but if it is 3 the queue will move faster. i have had longer dumps than 3mins too but if i knew the door was going to fly open i could have speeded up
    Originally posted by k.oriordan
    I'd love to know what women's obsession with men leaving the toilet seat up as well is. Leaving it up is the correct way! That avoids piss getting on the seat when you're going to the toilet and it means that noone has to stick their hand under that damp place unnecessarily to pick it up (putting it down is a lot easier).
    i always though it odd too. why dont men complain as much when the toilet seat is left down? having to pick it up is the dirty part. when you flush the toilet, water will nearly always splashes the seat anyway giving the appearance of piss on the seat. they should be sprung like a cinema seat. i always make a point of leaving the seat up so it wont be covered in piss if i have to use it a while later and some lazy git wont bother to lift it


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