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Wulf

Oh sweet Jesus.

Firstly, presuming you live in Ireland, you do not have a completely licensed throwing star - you can't - as the shuriken/shaken/teppan/deathstar/whatever you want to call it is completely banned under the firearms and offensive weapons act of 1990 and the offensive weapons order of 1991.

Secondly, what makes you think you are going to be able to defend yourself with such an implement. Have you any idea how to use it? I highly doubt it, as in order to, you would have to have a teacher and I doubt anyone who could teach you would do so. Even if they did, they would be highly displeased at the thought that you actually carry something like that.

Carrying such a weapon might make you feel safer, but you are suffering from delusions if you think it makes you safer.

Never got to answer that, hehe.

1. It is licensed

2. I have recieved training in throwing it or it wouldn't be licensed, it's a lisence to carry and, to a certain extent use. As I said in my post, I use it as a kinda knuckle duster, I don't throw it, throwing is too dangerous and inaccurate, especially in a street or ally.

Seion

I am presuming because this is an Irish board that you are located in Ireland. If you had read the previous thread before it was locked down, you would now know that throwing stars are specifically banned in Ireland.

That means that it is completely illegal to own or carry one. Full stop.

So, exactly how do you reckon you have a license to carry a throwing star?

Did you apply in writing to the Gardai?

Do you have a certificate stating your are licensed to carry and use a shuriken in public?

Who trained you to use it, and what has that got to do with your supposed license?

-Wheeler-

Pass this guy's IP address to the gardai - it's morons like him, carrying around such weapons ILLEGALLY, that are making this city such a dangerous place.

Wheeler_1028.

BoB_BoT

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Originally posted by wheeler_1028
Pass this guy's IP address to the gardai - it's morons like him, carrying around such weapons ILLEGALLY, that are making this city such a dangerous place.

Wheeler_1028.

wooo hold up here, let him reply first to say where he's living. Secondly, wtf are you talkin about, if he's "trained" with it, it's supposed to be for defensive purposes not for attacking random people with as he said in the other post

"The handy thing about it is that it's blunt enough not to hurt you, so you can apply a good bit of pressure to someone's neck without fear of killing them, but they don't know that "

it's not people that try to defend themselves with weapons that are the real problem it's the scum that attack people with syringes/knives/slash hooks :P that are the problem. if he lives in a country that allows him to carry a weapon for selfdefense such as america well leave him be. I'm guessing he lives in the uk, so i don't know about the weapon laws over there. will look into it.

btw what do you mean by "this city" try to remember that there are other "cities" in the country. don't ya mean this country? try to think nation wide, he could be living in the back arse of nowhere for all we know. judging by wulfs community site thingy i'd say that he's not one of these people who goes out looking for a fight, if not he runs from one as is the wise way to do things.
do a little bit of research or wait for a reply from the origional poster before asking the mods to pass the guys ip on to the gardi.

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Unjaku

Since this is an irish BB website, I would have thought it was better than even odds Wulf is irish.

Anyway, if he is almost anywhere in Europe, be it the UK or France, then his shuriken / throwing star is illegal to carry. This is true of many american states as well. No one hands out concealed carry 'licenses' for obscure feudal era throwing weapons.

The step of giving his IP to the Garda is probably a bit much, because if nothing else they have bigger fish to fry than harmless cranks carrying ninja weapons around.

I'm all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt. However: Someone carrying shuriken for self defense, no matter how well intentioned they might be, needs to be sat down and had a few things explained to them.

-Wheeler-

Bob_Bot

1. Maybe I was wrong to assume he is carrying around this weapon in Ireland - However, it would be logical to assume he is in Ireland as he is posting on an Irish board. I would also be surprised if it's not illegal to carry around this weapon in most other european countries.

2. The argument that because someone has trained in the use of a weapon entitles them to carry that weapon in public for defense purposes is completely absurd. If someone has trained in the use of firearms, they are not entitled to carry it around in public, they need a licence, and to carry it around concealed - they need a separate licence (which is extremely difficult to obtain in most US states). If you have trained in the use of a samarai sword, should you be allowed to walk down O' Connell's street with it. I think not.

3. The statement about holding a weapon to peoples throats and applying "good bit of pressure without fear of killing them" worries me.

4. I retract my "this city" statement - I should have specified the city of Dublin.

If I have misquoted or misinterpreted you, feel free to correct the record.

Btw - My request for the mods to pass his IP address to the gardai was made "semi-seriously". I knew the mods probably wouldn't bother and if they did, the cops were unlikey to follow it up. It was really just to express my anger about the attitudes to carrying weapons in public that he had.

Regards,

Wheeler_1028

BoB_BoT

"1. Maybe I was wrong to assume he is carrying around this weapon in Ireland - However, it would be logical to assume he is in Ireland as he is posting on an Irish board. I would also be surprised if it's not illegal to carry around this weapon in most other european countries."

in regards to this, it may be an Irish boards, but we do have a few people that post here that aren’t Irish, aren’t living in Ireland atm etc...

"2. The argument that because someone has trained in the use of a weapon entitles them to carry that weapon in public for defence purposes is completely absurd. "

eh I didn't say that it was. I meant that if you were to train with this weapon that you'd also be thought the moral side of owning such a weapon. Maybe I didn't make that clear enough.

3. The statement about holding a weapon to peoples throats and applying "good bit of pressure without fear of killing them" worries me.

I agree with you on this 100%, but I think he was just using it as an example/brag. And tbh if you're using a weapon which you were trained with to throw as a knuckle duster you should really think about learning some self-defence/holds etc...

Sorry if I seemed to be an asswhole about this, but the ip comment pissed me off.

-Wheeler-

BoB_Bot

I apologise for the misinterpretation. Thanks for clarifying your views.

I'm a reasonable person really - his comments just really annoyed me.

Regards,

Wheeler_1028.

Repli

FFS I'm so close to locking this..
However I'll leave it open until Wulf gets a chance to reply and verifies what country he's in.

Cake Fiend

He's in Cork, according to his profile

Repli

Wulf I'm locking this. Look at the previous topic I locked and specifically vasch_ro's post for an explanation and also please read the legality of carrying such items in Ireland. It is illegal to carry throwing stars in Ireland. Any more topics like this and you're banned.