19" Tft

clansman

komplett are selling a 19" TFT for only €555.
i was woundering is this a good deal. The responce time is not that good(25ms)
but then the 19 inichs makes up for that + its dvi.
Do u think it would be good for gaming, for eg HL2, which uses
a lot of colour.

MoSeS_.

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Has anyone been able to find any reviews on this monitor, or better yet, has anyone had any first hand experience with it ?
Price seems too good to be true
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milltown

I'm using an 18" Compaq TFT at home that's listed as having a 25 or possibly even 30ms response and I can't say I've ever noticed any blurring or ghosting on it whether watching dvds and divxs or playing games like Vice City, BF1942, Unreal 2, Splinter Cell or anything for that matter.
I think, I haven't fully researched this theory, the mistake most people make is equating response time with refresh rates and FPS. The design of a TFT is such that each pixel is lit independently and stays lit until it is told otherwise. It does not begin to fade until the electron beam makes another pass at it (ooh err!). This means that only the pixels that have changed will be affected by the response time, not the whole display.

There's a good explanation of TFTs Here

Hope that helped.

clansman

so then the komplett 19" is a good deal cos i was worried about the responce time.

milltown

As I said I'm well chuffed with mine. Might be as well to get a few more opinions before forking out nearly 600 lids tho'.

Probably depends on the type of games you play too and the quality of display you're used to. See if any local computer shops have display models with 20, 25 and 30 ms responses and see if they will demo a game or a movie on it to give you an idea.

Also, I'm using DVI so I don't know if that improves matters.

Bet you're even more confused now! Sorry

clansman

yea dvi is good cos it has little error i.e there is no need for a A/Dc.

i wont have time to get to comp shop as iam workin business hours
so does any one else have a LCD with a 25ms responce time?

Might be as well to get a few more opinions before forking out nearly 600 lids tho'.

its a weekly offer from komplett, so i dont think i'll get a 19" any where for only €555

Kali

Hmm well I ordered one last night, will be paired with a 9800 Pro via DVI, I'll post a quick review/opinion when it arrives....

koneko

Different monitors with 25ms can give different performance. Although important, response time does not define how much smearing there will be on the monitor.

I have a 19" Planar with 25ms response time and have no smearing, it's a great monitor. But I've heard of others with different monitors that weren't so lucky.

The only way to find out is from experience. Either by reading reviews, hearing from others how the monitor works for them or seeing it in person.

I tried searching Google for reviews of that monitor (just quickly though) but couldn't find anything. Not sure if that's good or bad...

MoSeS_.

I too could not resist and splurged, should have it in a few days, will give a verdict before the week is out (9800 pro too)

Lemming

Originally posted by clansman
so does any one else have a LCD with a 25ms responce time?

Yup, although it's a silly money monitor. A sony SDM-S71 (17"). I've never had ghosting problems and I tend to crank up any game settings to their max settings (I have a GeForce 4 Ti4600 and an Audigy Platinum to help).

TBH, it cost a fortune, but my reasoning was that my eyeballs are going to be looking at this thing for quite some time, and I'd rather not be going blind if I could help it. So in that respect "money is no object - within reason"

clansman

MoSeS_. and Kali when ye get the monitor could ye run some games
like Splinter Cell, UT, and see what ye get, cos splinter cell has a lot of colour changes and effects.... thanks


Lemming i read a review for a sony SDM-S71 (17") and it came first for gamming... its wort every penny, or i mean cent

clansman

did any one get the monitor yet?
whats it like? and good. its gone up to 593 now

Kali

nobody at home yesterday to get the delivery .. (booo) but should throw the machine together either later today or tomorrow though (assuming it comes today), expect a brief three-line opinion then

MoSeS_.

It's a bucket of **** for gaming
Major ghosting on q3dm17 anyway
The colours on my CRT look washy by comparison however.

Kali

ahh crap didnt wanna hear that.. q3 being the only game i ever play (thats seldom enough anyway).. although it'll be mostly used for design work and programming so might do the job...

UbahOne

to hell with that...ill get a 17" decent one instead...

BrownBoy

I got mine 2 days ago. I hv tried movies+tv on the monitor. It is excellent. Don't know about games.

ozmo

Originally posted by clansman
komplett are selling a 19" TFT for only €555.
i was woundering is this a good deal. The responce time is not that good(25ms)
but then the 19 inichs makes up for that + its dvi.
Do u think it would be good for gaming, for eg HL2, which uses
a lot of colour.

The price just went up

Fujitsu Siemens 19" LCD X19-1 TCO-99
- VGA (D-sub),DVI-D,speakers ,inc. cables In stock:
100+ 593.26

I was about to buy one earlier this week when it was 555 - but couldnt find a review anywhere.
I'm mostly worried about two things:
1. Ghosting - the odd few FPS Games I play I would like
them to be at least as good as my Sony/Dell P991 monitor.
2. Pixel Errors.

Komplett say they conform to class III
- This means it can have 50 bad pixels per 1million pixels.
before they would replace it . (aprox 1.2million pixels in this monitor)

I know there are manufacturing problems etc - but I'm only
concerned about the finished item.

Did any of you who bought this monitor or any other from Komplett get any bad pixels?

ozmo.

BrownBoy

I did not notice any dead pixels on mine.

longword

I opted for the Samsung 191T from Komplett a month or two ago and it's the best monitor I've ever used. It claims a 25ms response and there is some minor redish ghosting in FPS games, but you don't really notice it. I've found no dead pixels or subpixels on the display. I use DVI to connect, but its VGA input offers very crisp output too. You'd be doing well to tell the difference.

clansman

iam kinda happy now that i didnt buy it cos i was just going to use it for gaming