Faking Orgasms

LegacyUser

This thread has arisen from a convo I had with a few of my mates.
We were talking about sex and all four of my female friends told me that they had faked orgasms at some stage, with both casual flings and long termers.One said she couldnt come with a man and had only ever had an orgasm when she was "going solo". Now, Im a girl, and I have never faked an orgasm. Ever. My mates also tell me that they rarely have multiples, whereas I have a fair few. Am I a freak or just very lucky? Do all women fake orgasms? Also, do boys fake, and if so why?

LegacyUser

i faked a few times/

its no biggie

boys dont notice n e way

rymus

theres a difference between not noticing and not caring

Typedef

If you fake it, then honestly, you deserve not to have them.

It's like somebody standing on your foot, and it hurting, but you saying nothing... so they keep standing on your foot.

Thus if you don't tell your lover 'the truth' and only tell them what you think they want to hear (regarding sex), you can't really expect your lover to know the truth now can you?

Women (I think) have slightly different priorities in a realtionship. Men, place a higher importance on sex, whereas women desire companionship.
Thus women tell men what they think men want to hear, in order to keep their companion, and men tell women what they think women want to hear, in order to have sex.

Then again, some individuals have well rounded relationships with the others in their sex lives and personal realtionships.
They tell each other the truth and don't fuk each other around (no pun).


No I've never faked it... certainlly if I've been having sex with a woman, and she's come and I haven't ... so what, it doesn't happen often, and quite often I'd make more effort to make sure a chick has a good time in bed with me.. then oh, about 85% of the chicks I've ever been with have done for me. If it was an every time/mostly thing... then I'd say something, and I certianly wouldn't have sex with someone unless I was enjoying it.

But being a man, I suppose the corollary is true, ie, putting up with a girl's obnoxious personality, because you're desperate for a ride.
Again, it doesn't happen often, because, I'd rather go it alone then put up with some of the inter-personal crap chicks, seem to think it's a man's role in life to accept.

To be honest, women who are so desperate to have a man, that they pretend he's curling their toes, when in fact he's putting them to sleep are dead sad, and bloody well deserve to come on their own.

If girls have faked it with me, then pity them. Similarly, if I was going out with a girl, and she was boring.... personally or in bed... I wouldn't be going out with her for long... and if I did... and ended up miserable (without having said a thing to the girl) would that be her fault or mine?

xx

Originally posted by rymus
theres a difference between not noticing and not caring

Spoken like a true poet

Typedef

A cunning linguist?

Nevyn

really what is the point ?
Why spare the ego of a guy or gal if they are that bad ? for if you do they will never learn.

sceptre

Originally posted by Thaed
really what is the point ?
Why spare the ego of a guy or gal if they are that bad ? for if you do they will never learn.

Thaed is right.

That is all.

cournioni

Originally posted by rymus
theres a difference between not noticing and not caring

Indeed.

Nevyn

Originally posted by sceptre
Thaed is right.

That is all.

lol
thanks dear

The Corinthian

I've faked a few.

dahamsta

I believe Corinthian.

Nevyn

Well there are times when it can be the only way to get rid of some one that quiet frankly you would never be bothered with again, say an over enthusiastic male who is all thrust and no finesse.

but in a realtionship it will only hinder a lot of learning.

bugler

Now I'm no expert on the female perspective, so maybe the ladies of the boards.ie can pipe in here too, but it seems to me you'd be part of a very small faction of women i.e women who have never faked an orgasm. I would have thought that any woman of reasonable sexual experience who has never had to fake an orgasm is either A) Extremely easy to satisfy, for some reason. If this is the case then lucky you. And 'him'.

or

Been extremely fortunate in the partners she has been with. The considerate studs!

I say this as a male, because I know well that very many guys don't place getting a woman off at the top of their list. Particularly if it's a one night stand. And you can't expect them to be prepared to put the effort in all the time in a relationship either...well you can expect, but you'll be disappointed

Either way, you're quite lucky, as I've heard of several women who never had an orgasm with a guy for years...

KdjaCL

Have faked a few times but not really faked if i come become her and she really wants to come i will persever until she does (not really faking).

Although she told she faked a few times i was pissed off at her as i thought if she told me how to do things better it would be better then faking.
Although my record was 8 times for her and im single now.
Ladies join the q

Seriously tho if she enjoys it even more so than the male it can only bode well for other aspects of a sexual relaionship.
So dont fake and tell the guy what to do ,if hes interested in learning it could benefit everyone.

kdjac

Nevyn

Originally posted by bugler

Either way, you're quite lucky, as I've heard of several women who never had an orgasm with a guy for years...

Those poor poor miserible and silly women tbh. At the end of the day you are responible for your own happiness....

bugler

Yeah but if you married young, had kids, and found yourself sleeping with someone with only the most minimal interest in the act then things aren't quite so clear cut.

Real life is remarkably unlike Sex and the City at times.

Mercury_Tilt

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Beruthiel

Originally posted by bugler
I've heard of several women who never had an orgasm with a guy for years...

that's nobody's fault but their own for not giving the poor bloke some instruction

as for faking it? why the hell would you bother having sex if you're gonna fake it, talk about laziness??! :rolleyes:

bugler

Originally posted by Beruthiel
that's nobody's fault but their own for not giving the poor bloke some instruction

as for faking it? why the hell would you bother having sex if you're gonna fake it, talk about laziness??! :rolleyes:

I have no choice but to repeat what I said above: Namely that some guys just don't care. Poor bloke? Poor woman more like. He's having his fun.

I'm a little surprised to see so many " whats the point in faking it?" queries. I'd have thought it would be fairly obvious that the main reason is most likely because they don't want to hurt the partner's feelings, make them inadequate etc. No-one should feel bad about being open about sex, but like I said above, things aren't that ideal.

Cake Fiend

For once I agree with Typedef, women who fake orgasms don't have any right to complain if they don't get them.

One said she couldnt come with a man and had only ever had an orgasm when she was "going solo".

Why didn't she get whoever she was sleeping with to do it manually then? I used to go out with a girl who couldn't have an orgasm from penetrative sex, so I did it orally. It's called considerate reciprocation.

Beruthiel

Originally posted by bugler
Poor bloke? Poor woman more like. He's having his fun

I disagree, why poor woman? if she doesn't speak up or leave him because he's useless, then what can she expect?

I'd have thought it would be fairly obvious that the main reason is most likely because they don't want to hurt the partner's feelings

why would you hurt their feelings by telling them they ain't leaving the bed till the jobs done!

bugler

As I've said more than once, I'm referring to women who might not be in such a clear-cut position. Not all women who struggle to have orgasms with their partner are young and free and able to just up and go because their other half is a clumsy buffoon.

why would you hurt their feelings by telling them they ain't leaving the bed till the jobs done!

Yes because noone could ever be hurt by being told they don't satisfy someone they care about in bed.

"It's just you've never really given me an orgasm..."

I'll add that one to the list of things I really want to hear from a girl, right alongside "Your cock is so small it isn't even funny" Ok it's an exaggeration, but let noone say that broaching matters such as sexual performance isn't a tricky matter. I know from a guys perspective that it could hurt a little, and believe me I know that some girls get very upset at the thought that they aren't attractive to their partner, which inevitably is inferred from an...inability to perform shall we say. Such delicate pointers have a habit of being taken the wrong way.

LegacyUser

well, i;ve faked them, i;ve never had a real one, and when i tell guys that i haven;t (i tend not to mention it at this stage) they seem to see it as a challenge and when they try to really turn me on, it;s nice but to be honest after a while it just gets boring, it never builds up for me and when you;re going out with someone and they get really upset because they can;t make you cum well for me the only answer was to spare his / her feelings (depending on the time with me) and fake them.

bugler

Can you not give yourself one? If you can then you can gently guide a male along the same route. If you can't...well then I'm not sure. But that's not right, and should be capable of being remedied. However, I wouldn't have a clue as to how to go about this, so to avoid giving bad advice I'll refrain from giving any altogether.

Failing that, you could always give me a try... (This was my one mandatory sleazy/lame joke of this whole sordid affair, so leave me alone)

seamus

I know women who complain they never orgasm, but when asked if they can do it themselves, I get an "ewwww....no!" response.

Each woman has her own quirks and soft spots. If she doesn't know how to tickle them, how the hell is anyone else meant to find out?

A lot of women's magazines i've thumbed through also claim that a woman only orgasm if she allows it to happen, i.e. it cannot be an autoerotic response, like ejaculating is for men. I would tend to agree, but some women are naturally more relaxed and 'willing' then others, and it has been known for raped women to orgasm.

I agree with the fact that women who fake are only cheating themselves. Men can't fake an orgasm (unless the women is really naive), and women can usually tell when they're doing something wrong. Men can't tell when they're doing something wrong, and constantly asking "Are you enjoying yourself?" is a turnoff for both parties, to say the least.

tribble

originally posted by type def

A cunning linguist?

oh dear god :roll eyes:



tribble

Nevyn

well it all goes back to inhibations.
and not being comfortible with yourslef.
IF you not happey playing iwth yourslef and learning what your body likes and needs how the hell are you going to be able to talk to and teach some one else.

Merciful Godess you mean there is a need for those learn to love your vagina classes ! Just like that bit from " Fried green tomatoes at the whislte stop cafe "

Tantra ladies what more can I say.
why should any area of a realtionship suffer just cos a couple have been together a while, sure the whole point of it is that there is so much thrust that you can play all sorts of games and decend into depravity together.

skittishkitten

I've faked a few . It's kinda like guys sometimes .... no matter what you do it's just not going to happen , but if the person your with is SO determined to make it happen , even when it's not , it's alot easier to just do the "OH OH " thing and get it over with. To say I don't deserve them because I've faked a few would be like saying a guy doesn't deserve sex because he didn't always cum , no matter what reason !

What's worse is getting thrown a "pity f*ck" . When your man walks in takes one look at your glazed eye frustrated face and goes......"Oh your horny again aren't you ?" *huge dramatic sigh* "Well get upstairs and I'll do you until you cum but I'm to tired to ...... " To me THAT is an insult. Would be similiar to your girl throwing herself on the bed, spread eagle, going. .... "OK , hurry up and get it over with" with a bored look on her face . I HATE "pity f*cks" , I can do better with my toys ..... but its always nice to try for the real thing first

Oh and btw ..... I cum easy and multiple times , it's very rare that I have to fake them ..... ( I'm a lucky girl )

Nevyn

Originally posted by skittishkitten
What's worse is getting thrown a "pity f*ck" . When your man walks in takes one look at your glazed eye frustrated face and goes......"Oh your horny again aren't you ?" *huge dramatic sigh* "Well get upstairs and I'll do you until you cum but I'm to tired to ...... " To me THAT is an insult.

Yup hate that like it is a chore and an inconvience,
nothing worse then not being appericated.
Just cos they cant always keep up.

Originally posted by skittishkitten
Oh and btw ..... I cum easy and multiple times , it's very rare that I have to fake them ..... ( I'm a lucky girl )

Par for the course when you have a high sex drive.

Mercury_Tilt

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uRbaN

Obv if its just a one nite thing, nbody really gives a f~~k who cums where or how...
If its a long term thing, i think faking it will be detrimental to the success of the relationship. If you cant be open and discuss things like sex with your chosen partner, then forget it. Sex is the most intimate part of the relationship, and if the girl feels obliged to put on a performance, then its living a lie.

besides, how can u possibly experiment or whatever if all ur gonna get is the same 2 star neighbours pg performance.

Lump

TO be honest I think women just hold back to be bitches.... no really, when/if the relationship goes tits up well then they always have the "Well you never made me orgasm"...... shouted out ina very full room. Trust me, its all the evil women.



John

Nevyn

Originally posted by uRb@N
besides, how can u possibly experiment or whatever if all ur gonna get is the same 2 star neighbours pg performance.

you dont know until you try and you will find thier kink or trigger it just takes time and trying.

skittishkitten

Originally posted by Lump
TO be honest I think women just hold back to be bitches.... no really, when/if the relationship goes tits up well then they always have the "Well you never made me orgasm"...... shouted out ina very full room. Trust me, its all the evil women.



John

SILLY MAN !! That can be said anyhow ..... even if you did

If its a long term thing, i think faking it will be detrimental to the success of the relationship.

I'm glad to hear you would rather hear "Just get the f*ck off me I'm not going to cum no matter what ! " to...." Oh Baby , that was SOOOOOO good , can we do it again later when I'm feeling a bit better ? "

Just because girl fakes once in awhile doesn't mean she does it ALL the time. Sometimes to fake is the best option :P

Doodee

tbh, what you dont know wont kill ya, some people orgasm some dont, yes, if a girl says that they havent cum then of course a guy is going to look at it as either a challange or else an insult.

The challange thing goes with the male "DIY" thing, like when a woman bitches for the sake of bitching, a guy thinks there is a problem and so tries to fix it.

as long as your not spitfull enough to say as lump said and hurt their feelings over it.

ppl have their own flaws aswell as their amazing features.

also, maybe alot of these women dont cum cause they think too much about it and so are only concentrating on this point when doing it instead of just letting go and having the passion take over

Seraphina

i have never faked an orgasm, but i have faked enjoyment at times, like some previous posters said its just the easiest thing to do sometimes.
the fact is when a guy makes it feel like getting you off is a chore, then nothing is ever going to happen, well, i personally find it a big turn off anyway.
some guys dont care, some guys do care but dont do anything, or try and promptly give up because they're bored, and some guys try everything they can and still cant do anything cause they're just clumsy.
guys sometimes get offended when guidance is offered, so i usually wont do it unless im asked.
i honestly dont see the point in having someone think they're doing it for you when its far from the truth. and no its not a problem with me ffs!

xx

Originally posted by The Corinthian
I've faked a few.

Me too. It was amazing the way she didn't notice though. You'd think she would have noticed the lack of 'evidence', but there you have it!!

skittishkitten

Originally posted by xx
Me too. It was amazing the way she didn't notice though. You'd think she would have noticed the lack of 'evidence', but there you have it!!

Now see ....... I don't understand how a man can fake it ...... with the exception of the condom keeping the "evidence" as you've politely put it ...... but in my experiences the man "tool" also swells a bit before the grande finale ( which is the most exquiste part of the whole journey ) . I can also tell if a man approaches and backs off , so I'm not sure how a man can "fake it" , unlike women who definitely can , especially if they have control of their pelvic muscles.

bugler

Well I don't know how to induce the swelling (in fact I can think of a few methods, but none palatable), but if a guy was behind the female at the time he wanted to fake it, he could always pull out and spit on her back..

skittishkitten

Originally posted by bugler
if a guy was behind the female at the time he wanted to fake it, he could always pull out and spit on her back..

But that fails to carry the distinctive smell , I would be able to tell spit from the other ...... not to mention that pulling out and not letting the female watch it shoot is just PLAIN RUDE !

bugler

I like the cut of your jizz. I mean gib.

I can't say I have ever had to fake it. Mind you I have just stopped and rolled over but I think at the time both parties agreed that was for the best..

nuvolari

lol, this reminds me of that bit in '40 days and 40 nights', main character fakes and the girl won't believe him and demands to see the edivence. i believe he used pva glue to give the desired effect;)

Nevyn

Originally posted by skittishkitten
But that fails to carry the distinctive smell , I would be able to tell spit from the other ...... not to mention that pulling out and not letting the female watch it shoot is just PLAIN RUDE !

:rolleyes:

ah girl are you really for really lol
thats like 5ft time today you've made me giggle.

xx

Originally posted by skittishkitten
Now see ....... I don't understand how a man can fake it ...... with the exception of the condom keeping the "evidence" as you've politely put it ...... but in my experiences the man "tool" also swells a bit before the grande finale ( which is the most exquiste part of the whole journey ) . I can also tell if a man approaches and backs off , so I'm not sure how a man can "fake it" , unlike women who definitely can , especially if they have control of their pelvic muscles.

Its not that difficult actually, you just have to tighten the muscle of your lad really hard and you get the desired effect.

skittishkitten

Originally posted by Thaed
:rolleyes:

ah girl are you really for really lol
thats like 5ft time today you've made me giggle.

Unfortunately to manys discomfort ..... I am

skittishkitten

Originally posted by xx
Its not that difficult actually, you just have to tighten the muscle of your lad really hard and you get the desired effect.

Is that WITH or Without the use of your hand ?? Using the hand is cheating *evil wicked grin * I can make it swell too using my hand and applying pressure to the base , I can also make the man scream ( albiet in pain ....but scream none the less ) if I grip it tightly enough with my hand . Now WITHOUT the hand , you still have to deal with the swelling and backing off issue .... and how do you fake the scent ?

The Corinthian

If you know what you’re looking for and are actually looking for it then you’ll be able to tell whether someone is faking it or not. Both genders display certain physiological attributes such as increased blood flow, leading to swelling, in the genitalia as well as some psychological telltale signs. The latter are probably a better sign.

What people seem to be discussing here is where a man fakes ejaculation. From what I gather this is a common enough practice. Women don’t notice it largely because they don’t expect it from us.

However, for a man to fake it does not always mean that he is faking the ejaculation. A man may ejaculate and while it may be an overall enjoyable sexual experience and a minor relief from the old blue balls syndrome, but that does not mean that they had an orgasm. It can actually be a bit of a non-event.

So, it’s not unknown for one to exaggerate one’s reaction at ejaculation. It’s probably more polite than quietly exhaling and rolling onto your back. That’s not to say it’s not been enjoyable, just that moan and shudder wasn’t involuntary on that occasion.

xx

The fact that both parties actively look for the signs of a fake orgasm sort of defeats the purpose of sex. Its supposed to be fun, not a game of charades.

The Corinthian

Originally posted by xx
The fact that both parties actively look for the signs of a fake orgasm sort of defeats the purpose of sex. Its supposed to be fun, not a game of charades.

Indeed. Just like seduction.

Peace

Is that WITH or Without the use of your hand ?? Using the hand is cheating *evil wicked grin * I can make it swell too using my hand and applying pressure to the base , I can also make the man scream ( albiet in pain ....but scream none the less ) if I grip it tightly enough with my hand . Now WITHOUT the hand , you still have to deal with the swelling and backing off issue .... and how do you fake the scent ?

Your forgetting about the taste....