Poll 1: So there's a General Election tomorrow...

ReefBreak · 30-07-2003 2:47pm #1

Who will you be giving your 1st preference vote to?

Imposter · 30-07-2003 2:56pm

Atari Jaguar.

Sparks · 30-07-2003 3:05pm

www.noneoftheabove.ie

There's my vote...

Paddy20 · 30-07-2003 8:00pm

Oh, how I wish there really was a General Election ?..

Paddy20 · 30-07-2003 8:04pm

Sparks,

I have already signed that petition;) , but I still had a vote here.

Sparks · 30-07-2003 8:38pm

Originally posted by Paddy20
Sparks,
I have already signed that petition;) , but I still had a vote here.

Yes, but I'm voting for the none of the above option to try to make a point - specifically "We don't trust any of you shower to do the job".

Boston · 30-07-2003 8:43pm

Labour? are you people mad? the day labour get elected is the day i move to france. Anyway i say sinn fein, maybe when terrorists get elected, FF will get the message.

Paddy20 · 30-07-2003 9:19pm

Sparks,

Then the only alternative for your goodself, is for you to start a new political party. There is no law against it.;)

Annasopra · 30-07-2003 10:27pm

ABFF/ABPDs,

Basically anybody but FF or the PDs

Sparks · 30-07-2003 10:48pm

Originally posted by Paddy20
Sparks,
Then the only alternative for your goodself, is for you to start a new political party. There is no law against it.;)

That's the third time someone's said that and the answer is still that :
1) I love my current job and I worked damn hard to get it and I see no reason why I should give up my life to try to change something when there's no hope of making the one change I want from within the system;
2) I don't think representative democracy is a good system anymore and I'll be darned if I'll add to the problem.

Chaos-Engine · 31-07-2003 1:42am

Labour have an excellent chance of LEADING the next government.
Stop wenging about FG. Labour don't need them.

There are 3 major challenges facing labour remaining:
1. The farmers -- They must be appeased
2. The Civil Servant(FFer in discise)
3. Big Business

get the first two and your in government in the present climate

come next election Big Business will also have to be on your side or you won't get teh media coverage u need

GOOD BYE FF AND FG

invincibleirish · 31-07-2003 2:49am

hmmmmmmmmmm,tough one to call

gandalf · 31-07-2003 8:00am

Originally posted by Boston
Labour? are you people mad? the day labour get elected is the day i move to france.

Thanks Boston an additional bonus to electing labour. Start brushing up on those French lessons

I voted Labour. From my perspective they are the only choice.

Sinn Fein - no bloody way.

Green Party - until all the gaffs this year they were a possibilty.

Fein Gael - if this party was an animal the vet would have been called years ago to put it out of its misery.

FF & PD - I think everyone knows what I think of them

Gandalf.

Jimi-Spandex · 31-07-2003 9:00am

Voted Labour, will vote labour again.

They are the only party whom I think are even remotely fit to run the country.

FF & PD, no chance in hell. Not going near them with a ten foot clown pole.

Fine Gael - Could be worse but then I can't really trust a party who don't know what they stand for.

Greens - Would give them a pref down the line. They're gone a bit crazy now though.

Sinn Fein - You must be joking. Some sociopath puts down his kalishnakov for five minutes to read the communist mannifesto and starts thinkin he's in a political party, don't think they'll be appearing anywhere on my ballot paper.

Boston · 31-07-2003 5:08pm

Originally posted by gandalf
Thanks Boston an additional bonus to electing labour. Start brushing up on those French lessons

I voted Labour. From my perspective they are the only choice.

Sinn Fein - no bloody way.

Green Party - until all the gaffs this year they were a possibilty.

Fein Gael - if this party was an animal the vet would have been called years ago to put it out of its misery.

FF & PD - I think everyone knows what I think of them

Gandalf.

Why are you so keen on labour, useless shower of eleetest snobs. never have or will do anything for my area. Why are you so against sein fein? personally i couldn't give a feic about the north or a united ireland, just that the local sinn fein guys have done allot in my community, as far as drugs and crime goes. you actually get the sense they are a peoples party, and not the upper classes. The only political party i can see that are actively campagning in the slums of dublin/limerick/cork and the like.

Sparks · 31-07-2003 5:13pm

Why are you so against sein fein?

I think the events surrounding Martin Ferris' election campaign underline the reasoning there rather sharply.

Boston · 31-07-2003 5:59pm

Originally posted by Sparks
I think the events surrounding Martin Ferris' election campaign underline the reasoning there rather sharply.

explain what that has to do with the north inner city?

Sparks · 31-07-2003 6:18pm

explain what that has to do with the north inner city?

1) Not everyone lives in the north inner city.
2) The events surrounding his election campaign were backed up by the sinn fein party as a whole, as opposed to being condemned.

Boston · 31-07-2003 6:21pm

Originally posted by Sparks
1) Not everyone lives in the north inner city.
2) The events surrounding his election campaign were backed up by the sinn fein party as a whole, as opposed to being condemned.

Well only people living in the north inner city will be voting for or against sinn fein in my area,

The sinn fein party backs up the IRA as a whole, i don't support that, that still wouldnt stop me voting for someone or some group of people who actually make a difference on the ground, burning down house and knee capping people.

Sparks · 31-07-2003 6:32pm

Well only people living in the north inner city will be voting for or against sinn fein in my area,

Very true, but by casting their local vote, they're supporting a country-wide political party and they need to understand what that party does in the wider field.

The sinn fein party backs up the IRA as a whole, i don't support that, that still wouldnt stop me voting for someone or some group of people who actually make a difference on the ground, burning down house and knee capping people.

I think "huh?" sums up my response to that. Is there a typo in there somewhere?

Boston · 31-07-2003 6:38pm

in reality, sinn fein in the south, are FF 30-40 years ago, majority of them are those who couldn't get into FF. they have the local tounch which i like. Bertie is meant to represent moi, but i've seen his house, its not like mine, and i've seen his local pub, i wouldn't get served in there. Sinn Fein located their north dublin offices in the most run down areas, i don't know where my local FF, LAbour, FG office is. I know exactly what sinn fein are meant to be, sociallist, communist, criminals not to be trusted, but the facts say a different thing.

Sparks · 31-07-2003 6:46pm

And I'm trying to point out that the facts on the ground where I grew up are that sinn fein are exactly what people say they are.
And that if Sinn Fein was serious about being a political party, they'd disavow those that live up to the SF stereotype.
But they don't, in fact they do the opposite - and that speaks volumes as to their seriousness as a party.

Boston · 31-07-2003 7:18pm

fair enough, i tend to be for the bloke, not the party. If FF put up a decent person, i'm sure i'd vote for him too

gandalf · 31-07-2003 8:26pm

Originally posted by Boston
Why are you so keen on labour, useless shower of eleetest snobs. never have or will do anything for my area.

Well I disagree with you on that point. I think as a party they have contributed greatly to Irish society. Also just so you know where I'm coming from I am an ex-member of the party and will more than likely rejoin before the local/european elections next year.

Why are you so against sein fein? personally i couldn't give a feic about the north or a united ireland, just that the local sinn fein guys have done allot in my community, as far as drugs and crime goes. you actually get the sense they are a peoples party, and not the upper classes. The only political party i can see that are actively campagning in the slums of dublin/limerick/cork and the like.

Because they are scum that support a terrorist organisation that has murdered Irish people. When they renounced their link with the IRA and the punishment beating gangs then I will consider them a proper political party. Until that day I believe they are thugs with a hidden agenda.

Gandalf.

Chaos-Engine · 01-08-2003 1:12am

Originally posted by Boston
fair enough, i tend to be for the bloke, not the party. If FF put up a decent person, i'm sure i'd vote for him too

Then vote SF in your LOCAL elections. They aren't fit to run the country. Perhaps they would be the perfect persons to run teh slums...

This is precisely the reason we should have a provincial government as suggested by M.Ferguson in a previous thread.
The Dail should be appsent of single issue('your MAN') politicians. Party politics

Boston · 01-08-2003 5:06pm

Sure Sinn fein are scum, but as far as i can see, every other party is bent. Maybe they do knee cap and punishment beat people, but they are against bin charges, and thats all that matters. Hell i'd vote for them just because all the other parties hate them.

Gandalf, i'm a young (18) voter, convince me labour is the way to go and i'll vote for them. Convince me that electing a bunch of rich farm owners and lawyers, will improve my life.

Sparks · 01-08-2003 5:16pm

Oh dear :rolleyes:
Busarus, is that you?

Cork · 02-08-2003 8:01pm

I really don’t care much for the Irish Labour party. T Ryle Dwyer has a very interesting article in today’s Irish Examiner newspaper about Garret & CJH. That after the 1982-1987 FG/Lab government the IMF were almost knocking at the door of Ireland Inc. Labour failed to cut back on public expenditure during the period 1982-1987.

Has labour ever had the bottle to make hard choices?

I think SF will cost labour votes. I think Labour needs vision & they need to come up with alternative policies. I really think that they will probably implode with SF and independant canidates biting at their heels.

solice · 05-08-2003 1:28pm

question,

are ppl here voting because of local issues in local constituencies or are they voting here on national issues.

Sparks · 05-08-2003 1:59pm

National level. All politics may be local - but "local" has a different meaning when you work in dublin and sleep in a dormitory town. "Local" sadly starts to mean the N11 in my case, or the DART, or a bus....

solice · 05-08-2003 3:27pm

its just that where i am from, if i wanted anything done, (local issues, potholes on the roads and the like) i would have to vote for ff. if i wanted ppl in office who i felt would be able to deal with national and international issues i would vote fg and lab.

i said fg in my vote here

colster · 05-08-2003 3:52pm

I'm just glad that there isn't an election soon because I think there are a lot of people out there who think that a vote for Sinn Fein is a vote against the corruption of the established parties.
But on second thoughts maybe now would be a good time to have an election because we could finally have an election where Sinn Fein is seriously challenged for it's own corruption.
However my faith in the Irish electorate is wearing thin. When people consider voting for a party with links to and is supportive of an orginisation which has killed countless Irish people rather than parties who may or may not have taken a few quid.
Well I'm of the opinion that the latter is more desireable than the former.

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