Prostitutes

LegacyUser

Howya lads and lassies!!

Just wondering what you think of lads who use prostitutes? I use them from time to time when I am single and going through a bad patch and not scoring. I don't see anything wrong with it but it is a real taboo subject isn't it? I would not mention it to any of my friends or anyone i know.

What do you all think of it?

LegacyUser

i think its kinda sad and dangerous too
your doin it with a woman whos been done more times than, well a prostitute probably riddled with every std under the sun

Sangre

Too much of a risk.

You only get one knob you know.

Turner

Unprotected sex with a prostitute would be a great risk. In fact unprotected oral sex would be risky too.

Im not sure about fingering/oral but i presume there is a risk there too if you had cuts on your fingers/mouth and the said prostitute was carrying a std.

If you do associate with prostitutes make sure you play very safe, thay are not your average girl you pick up in a bar where there is a slilght risk of catching something.

Chief.

mavedic

Originally posted by Unrego
well a prostitute probably riddled with every std under the sun

As I don't know any prostitutes personally, I may be wrong but I would have thought that prostitutes would be very professional about their work and would be careful not to get stds and the rest. Its not going to do their work any favours is it?
I don't see anything wrong with prostitution or hiring prostitutes. Its not something I would personally do, but everyone to his/her own taste. The women/men who do it are choosing to do what they do, and anyone who hires a prostitue knows what they are getting into... its just a different perspective on sex.

fisty

Nothing wrong with going to a hooker, if women weren't such a pain in the arse there wouldn't be the need for them.

And ugly people have to get laid too...

Helix

Originally posted by mavedic
As I don't know any prostitutes personally, I may be wrong but I would have thought that prostitutes would be very professional about their work and would be careful not to get stds and the rest.

yeh id say thats the way it works, its the same with guys sellin pills or that, if theyre offerin a service that makes people sick they wont make any money. therefore theyre gonna ensure that theyre clean and not losin money coz theyre riddled

jammy_dodger

Id habe too say, No on the prossies being ok thing,

1. God gave man and external organ, he also gave man not one, but two hands, use em, When you hav'nt 'scored lately'

2. despite the whole se+ thing/They themselves are in a bad situation, It's a job they hate, and i don't take pleasure in seeing people in ****ty jobs. It their last resort.

3. One of my mates lost his virginity to a prostitute, He regreted ever since. He said 'it felt like he was fukin his garbageman'

lordsippa

There was a debate bout this before... high class prostitutes tend to be clean and like their job.

WhiteWashMan

Originally posted by fisty


And ugly people have to get laid too...

thats why beer was invented....

The Sweeper

Originally posted by Paulie
Howya lads and lassies!!

Just wondering what you think of lads who use prostitutes? I use them from time to time when I am single and going through a bad patch and not scoring. I don't see anything wrong with it but it is a real taboo subject isn't it? I would not mention it to any of my friends or anyone i know.

What do you all think of it?

I think that the taboo associated with prostitution was started and is perpetuated by women. However stereotypical it is, it is true that most women view sex as an emotional act, and most men can take it either way - as an emotional or purely physical act. Subsequently, to women, a woman who is able to distance herself from the emotional part of sex to the extent where she can charge money for it is quite threatening.

The notion is that discernment is not a part of her job - so if your boyfriend/husband wants her, he can have her as long as he has the money.

Many men hire prostitutes for the companionship as well as the sex - the feeling of being with someone. Hence prostitutes establish regular customers. There's more to it than just sex - as I think a lot of men realise on their first visit to a prostitute. A prostitute isn't a nameless faceless disembodied set of tits and ass. She's a person. That realisation can be startling.

I think the second most important thing to realise about prostitution, after safe sex and the risk of STDs, is that the stigma of being with a prostitute can affect your whole life. If your future girlfriend/wife ever finds out, there's no guarantee that she wont just up and leave you in disgust.

If prostitution was so fabulous, all women would be prostitutes - I mean, easy money, good money. As opposed to being a great profession that women 'like to be in', as one member posted, it can be demeaning to the spirit, damanging to the self confidence, dangerous both in terms of disease risk and the danger of picking up a violent client and generally not a profession you'd want your sister to go into. It's also illegal.

If I were the original poster, I'd look closely at my life to see why, exactly, I decide that I need to pay a woman for sex when I'm going through a 'bad patch', when most other men would buy a skin mag and **** their way back to civilisation.

Sangre

Originally posted by mavedic
As I don't know any prostitutes personally, I may be wrong but I would have thought that prostitutes would be very professional about their work and would be careful not to get stds and the rest. Its not going to do their work any favours is it?

Not when they're selling their body to fuel their herion addiction.

lordsippa

Yeah... I dunno. When I said "high class prostitutes" I was thinking more of "escorts". They tend to be in it cause the work's easy, they get good pay, and they like sex. They're usually clean too. But this ain't from personal experience. There was a thread on PI about this remember? doesn't anyone remember?

Sangre

I wasn't referring to your post. Escorts would be extremely careful, with high class pimps and all

Kwizatz Anorak

I don't see a problem as long as the prostitute

i. is of legal age
ii. made her decision to become a prostitute
iii. always does it safely and if you go, you should make sure you're playing it safe
and as long as you don't end up having to lie about it

Each unto their own...

The Sweeper

Originally posted by Kwizatz Anorak
ii. made her decision to become a prostitute

...have you ever seen little girls play 'prostitute' in the schoolyard? Have you ever heard a school leaver say "I'm not filling out the CAO form, I want to be a prostitute"? Have you ever been to a school reunion and some girl proudly announces "Actually I'm the madam at a very successful whorehouse"?

I don't think women 'make a decision to become a prostitute'.

No-one gets up one morning and says "I wanna be a whore".

Mercury_Tilt

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MrNuked

I dunno. Depends on the attitude from the client and the prostitute. If it's a lonely man looking for comfort and he's respects the woman, I can see a good side to it.
In Amsterdam, where there is not such a stigma attached to it, they are treated quite well. They are also tested weekly for diseases. They have a panic button on the side of the bed and if a customer does get violent i heard people passing on the street come in to help (the prostitute not the sicko).
It's all down to the attitude I think. Even on the purely physical level it seems more honest than a man who looks for women for casual sex, when often the women will want more.
The idea of losing your virginity to a prostitue seems horrible though.
I don;t think i would ever be with one myself. I wouldn't judge someone for being a prostitute or for going off with one. I'd perceive it as being similar to a one-night stand with a stranger. Although possibly not. A one-night stand leaves a man feeling lonely but also sometimes empowered. I don;t think you would feel empowered after being with a prostitute. I think I would feel very guilty.
how do you feel after being with a prostitute?
i think if i ever did go to one it would be for the opposite reasons to most people. Sometimes I have felt insecure, and gone home with girls just wanting someone to be there and not wanting to have sex, and they have got very pissed off with me called me a tease or become unpleasantly persistent in their efforts to initiate sex, or else just rolled over with an attitude of "well **** you then". If I did go to a prostitute it would be just for someone to sleep beside.

Kwizatz Anorak

I've heard that before and I well believe it. I'm sure becoming a whore is not what people dream about, just like I'm sure a lot of people dream of being a bin-man and lots of other professions. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a bin-man, nor am I saying there's anything wrong with being a prostitute. As you move through life, hopes and dreams change and our jobs are never as glamorous as we wanted them to be (well rarely).

I wanted to be an astronaut, does that mean there's something wrong with becoming a sw engineer / bin man / sanitary technician.


There are multiple jobs that no-one really wants to do when they're kid but realise they could bite the bullet when they're older and do it then.

Do you know what I mean, apologies for my poor articulation -- mainly posted for minesaJackDaniels..

bug

I wouldn't go near the scene in Dublin if I was you, its too risky, Ive seen the prostitutes on benburb street and down around the canal and they dont look like the type of ppl who are concerned with sexual health to me, I also saw a few 12 year olds down there.
IMO if your into prostitutes go to Amsterdam, at least the industry is regulated there, your guaranteed some sort of level of safety since they are licenced.
Personally I wouldn't sleep with guy who was a regular kerb crawler.

Kwizatz Anorak

I wouldn't go near the scene in Dublin if I was you

Well if I was you I'd do whatever the F**K you do, since I'm me, I'm not going to touch any of them with a barge pole because that's how I feel about them.

Sorry, I'm in a bit of a pedantic mood at the moment.

Sangre

Ummm, how the fúck was that post directed at you?

And your reply wasn't pedantic it was obnoxious.






i was tempted to say ghey.

Kwizatz Anorak

Thought it was more pedantic than obnoxious but sorry for being obnoxious too then, I know it wasn't directed at me but it was sort of open to everyone with and "if I were you".

Starting a sentance with "If I were you I wouldn't", is just a nice form of preaching at someone that you shouldn't do this because I wouldn't....

"If I were you then you'd be me and I'd use your body to get to the top, you can't stop me no matter who you are"

-(Ace Ventura 2)

Emboss

jam jar two bits of liver and a half spoon of baby oil TEH WIN!

Mercury_Tilt

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bug

Starting a sentance with "If I were you I wouldn't", is just a nice form of preaching at someone that you shouldn't do this because I wouldn't....

This is a place where you offer ppl advice isn't it, or am I hugely mistaken? or to post your particular opinion on a subject that's posted. And generally I feel that in order to do that you try and put yourself in that person's position .. hence the term of phrase..."If I were you".
Preaching..moi...couldn't really give a flying f**k what anyone does, its there own choice tbh, I simply offered him an opinion.

Catsmokinpot

just incase any of you are interested in useless facts :

prostitution is the oldest profession in the world

yeah that was a useless fact

im sitting on the fence on this one

i dont do it - cause im not sad

i dont mind if others do it - (whatever tickles your fancy)

me sittin on fence --> ________:ninja: ________

Emboss

Originally posted by Mercury_Tilt
or just put you in the micro wave.





Why?





Cos you're such a pussy.

How would you know?




Cos you're a cock!

Gordon

Merc/Emboss stop it.

Falkorre

Back on topic......
To my miind, hooking is somthing that has a lot of different aspects to it.

If you are talking about a junkie, hooking or hustling to support his / her habit, then abviously u have no choice but to wonder about safety, because you might be dealing with somone who has been talked into unprotected sex while not in full control of their senses. You also have to consider whether or not this person might take the oppertunity to hold a knife to ur throat out of desperation. (An extreme example, but not unheard of).

If you are talking about escorts, then its usually a whole different story. I personally would have no problem with "escort" services being used by somone.

A lot of the women and men both on the street and in agencies, who are hooking and hustling, do it, yes because they need the cash, maybe some find it easy money and maybe some dont. I think the majority would say, and I would agree, that they work damned hard for their money no matter what peoples perceptions are. They too have days when they dont feel able to work, but dont have the benefit of sick pay, they have to pay their angency or pimp if they have one, they have to pay their medical bills to protect their employment, like somone said, if word gets around that such and such has the clap, no ones gonna touch em, and similiarly, if word gets around that such an such an agency hires somone with the clap that angency wont last long.

There is no denying there are seedy elements, as in a lot of other professions, but as long as somone isnt, or dosent feel they are physically or emotionally harmed by it them its kewl. And you may or may not believe it, but there are plenty of people in the profession who are perfectly comfortable with their job.

Besides I personally can think of worse jobs id rather not do. I dont have a problem at all with hookers and hustlers,.....
it *IS* the oldest profession, and by now you would think it would be a regulated, recognised profession.

And it can *be* a profession, I know of at least 7 people with disabilities here and in london, who frequently go to amsterdam or hire a sex worker locally for their services.
If I hadnt got a partner, Im not sure whether *I* would personally, but I would definitely give it serious thought

B

Mercury_Tilt

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Wolf

^ yea well said that man.

Anyway. I was just going to add that I can fully understand why some people go to prostetutes but at the end of the day I wouldnt due to the fact that I like to fell something towards the person im sleeping with.

I mean yeah iv done one night stands and that but Iv usually been talking with the girl all nightlong and getting on with her. The rare occasion when I have been so drunk that I have had a one night stand I have felt quite empty and disatisfied the next day.

Its for this reason I don't think I could pay for for sex. Also, if I wanted it that bad bad Id just go out and not be as choosey, and get it for free.

Zombrex

Originally posted by mavedic
As I don't know any prostitutes personally, I may be wrong but I would have thought that prostitutes would be very professional about their work and would be careful not to get stds and the rest. Its not going to do their work any favours is it?

To me STDs would be the single reason never to be with a prostitute.

Firstly there is no such thing as Safe Sex, there is only safer sex. No form of protection is 100%. you can only limit your risk of infection (ie. don't sleep with a prostitute)

A prostitute, who supports themselves by prostitution might have sex with 3 or 4 men a night. That is 21 a week. 1,092 a year. If a prostitute is 25 and has been working since she was 18, that is 7,644 (of course this figure isn't an exact statistic, I am just illustrating).

Now if she uses protection everytime (big "if"), and condoms fail on average 1 every 15 times the prostitute has been at risk 509 times. That is of course IF protection was used everytime. A lot of men will not pay for sex if they have to use protection, which is one of the reasons HIV is spreading so fast amoung African sex workers. I would be very surprised to find a sex worker in Ireland who never has unprotected sex.

And of course a man who sleeps with a prostitute probably sleeps with other prostitutes (as is the case of the original poster Paulie). You don't have to multiply that 509 figure that often to get a staggering figure. The old saying "you aren't just sleeping with one person, you are sleeping with everyone they have slept with and so on" really gets very scarry when applied to sleeping with a prostitute.

Not only are u putting yourself at a HUGE risk of infection, you are also risking the health of everybody you have a relationship in the future. Which would be the second reason not to be with a prostitute.

There is an STD empidemic happening at the moment in this country. Infection rates are sky rocketing which is going to force people to be safer when it comes to sex. If any girl you want to have a relationship with finds out you have been with a prostitute (or a few), they won't want to touch you with a barge poll purely for their on health.

MrNuked

Why would they want to touch you with a barge pole anyway? Is this some kinky fetish? Don't see what's so special about being touched with a barge pole?

Mac daddy

You know what they say//Up the Gi HIV, Up the bum no Harm done//
You poke it you risk it :ninja:

Turner

Originally posted by Mac daddy
Up the bum no Harm done//

Emm I think you are thinking about pregnancy, you can contract HIV from anal sex.

MojoMaker

Ah leave him, he's only 14. Doesn't know any better. Ask your old man sometime Mac Daddy.

Tazz T

I find the thought of having sex with someone who doesn't really want to have sex with me (and is only doing so to pay the rent) abhorrent. I don't think I'd be able to get it up. I'd just be thinking, she doesn't want to do this.

LegacyUser

Hi again,

interesting comments.

To fill you in a bit more, I have been with about 10 prostitutes, or escorts as some call them. They were all agencies, not girls working on the street. I used protection everytime. I regularly get tested for STD's and have never tested positive.

I think if any of them had STD's and passed it onto clients, word would get around very quickly. There are pleanty of message forums on the net about Irish prostitues and people can post reviews, good and bad.

Turner

I just saw a certain website for a certain escort agency in Temple Bar. It very well done with pics of the girls too. I didnt know it was all done so professionally.

Chief.

ferdi

[mod edit - sorry Ferdi]

enjoy

MrNuked

He's 14? I thought MacDaddy was about 45, black, American, and possibly a musician. These avatars make too strong an impression on me.

Caesar_Bojangle

Perhaps one of those top dollar L.A whores, but there is not a chance in hell of Caesar Dickjangle touching an std riddled Irish whore.

He's 14? I thought MacDaddy was about 45, black, American, and possibly a musician. These avatars make too strong an impression on me

I'm really female

The Sweeper

As for 'not knowing that it was so professionally done', the international sex industry is the reason that the 'secure server' for credit card payment via the internet was invented. Prostitution is one of the slickest and sleaziest industries in history.

If you use a reputable escort agency in Dublin, you may hire a prostitute who is quite possibly intelligent, educated, literate, attractive, funny and STD-free.

But lets be honest here, a "prostitute" is, in various dictionaries, "one who solicits and accepts payment for sexual acts". An "escort" is an ambiguous description that covers everyone from a whore to someone who accompanies another to guide, protect or show honour.

Yeah, show us yer honour love.

Nevyn

Well at least it is not a loose a description as " interpreter " is in eastern bloc countries.

The Corinthian

There seems to be two reasons why people visit prostitutes; firstly is that they are either too ugly or socially inept to find a sexual partner without financial incentive and the second is time and circumstance (i.e. they are too busy or perhaps are already in a relationship and wish to be unfaithful).

Of the former, it’s probably unfair to group such people as too ugly or socially inept as it’s as much an issue with the prevailing culture or demographics of the location they find themselves in as anything else.

I’ve lived most of my life in Ireland, and so have never had recourse to visit a professional. I’m not against it in principle, it’s just never happened as, let’s face it, and it’s not all that difficult to get laid in a country that considers inebriation to be an essential part of foreplay. In Italy, it’s a lot harder to pull, in part because there is a stricter attitude towards drinking and sexual relationships and in part because the competition, amongst men, is cutthroat - As result prostitution is far more prevalent in there than in Ireland.

Equally if one is a farmer living in Ballygospittlebackwards, the chances of you pulling anything with two legs is pretty slim, simply based upon your local population.

Time and circumstance, on the other hand, is largely a more modern scenario (the career man/woman) in that people do not want relationships with others, but still look to have sex. In such a case, one can get into swinging or have an arrangement with one or more fuck-buddies, but failing that paying for it would appear to be the only alternative.

Of course, the arguments against prostitution include those of the dangers of STD’s and the exploitation of prostitutes. Both of these are highly valid, but have already been discussed in this thread by others, so I won’t bother anyone by repeating the points already raised.

Another argument often used against that one will come across is that to pay for it would be “sad”. While I would agree that having to pay for sex is certainly not the preferable option (if only for financial reasons), it doesn’t take a chartered accountant to work out that more often than not the only difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money costs less. Especially in the scenario that a man is dating a woman only because he wants to seduce her (1), or buying bottles of Champagne so as to impress a potential one-night-stand - hence I would refute that argument.

In conclusion, one will find women will often have sex for many of the same reasons as men as I have highlighted above. Of course, what differs between men and women is that women do not need to pay for it as often as men. Hence the sex trade becomes an issue of supply and demand, and perhaps if women put out more often we would see the extinction of prostitution...





1. Sometimes known as the Nob Syndrome whereby a guy will meet a girl and feel that he has to nob her - only after which his genetically predisposed blind spot will lift and he’ll realizes that the girl in question is an irritating idiot who shares a number of physical characteristics with a dead haddock.

Big Chief

and perhaps if women put out more often we would see the extinction of prostitution...

by far the most intelligent quote from this topic yet.

Beëlzebooze

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and perhaps if women put out more often we would see the extinction of prostitution...

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by far the most intelligent quote from this topic yet.

the point is that they have no reason to put out, if they don't consider you shag worthy. That in turn promotes prostitution, 'cos there is always a rake of blokes who will not get
laid otherwise. As the Corinthian rightly put it, supply and demand.

Mac daddy

Originally posted by MrNuked
He's 14? I thought MacDaddy was about 45, black, American, and possibly a musician. These avatars make too strong an impression on me.

i'm actually 22 you tit:rolleyes:

MojoMaker--/ Ah leave him, he's only 14. Doesn't know any better. Ask your old man sometime Mac Daddy. /

look another tit who can't see the funny side of what i said :rolleyes:

Kell

Originally posted by The Corinthian
or buying bottles of Champagne so as to impress a potential one-night-stand [/SIZE]

Do I sense a good humoured stab?

Caesar_Bojangle

Now the health system classifies an s.t.d as an s.t.i (sexually transmitted illness). Suddenly it feels less intimidating to do it with a whore