No longer have to pay seperate line rental to €ircom?

Scruff

Was watching TV3's Ireland AM program at 9 this morning (just to get the news headlines!) and across the bottom on their scrolling news feed i saw a line about new regulation coming in where by if you do switch your carrier from eircom to another (UTV or EsatBT) then you won't have to pay seperate line rental to €ircom.
You'll just pay the one bill to who ever is your carrier.

Thats all it said, so i presume your carrier will then pay the line rental to €ircom.

Cant find any other news story about it anywhere. Can anyone else confirm it?

I think its good news if true. Means there will be less hassle moving off €ircom to another carrier.

query

The wholesale line rental product was launched by eircom on 2nd June 2003. There's four operators testing it

spongebob

This is the issue where Eircom and Comreg have gone off to the High Court about the price.

Eircom charge €23.15 line rental (inc VAT) which is the highest Line rental in Europe. It was the highest in Europe in January of this year too, €19.60 a month but Comreg allowed Eircom to increase the price twice this year already.

Eircom have been told by Comreg that other carriers must be allowed to rent a line off Eircom and then charge their customer for BOTH the line and the service(s) on the line. You are correct in saying that you will no longer receive a bill from Eircom. This service may be offered now.

Currently that LLU price is about €16.50 ex vat (€19.97 incl vat) so another carrier could bill you €19.99 line rental but they would not make any money on it....you would save a little over €3 a month on your current rental.

Eircom sought to increase their charge to another carrier for a line to €27 a month ex vat, meaning that the line rental would have been some €32.67 a month to you with the other carrier still not making a penny. Eircom did not give a damn that this would have been over twice the European average.

Comreg tried to analyse the Eircom figures 'justifying' their prices and brought in a Professor who could not understand them either and thats apart from the fact that Eircom kept changing them all the time and that the process went on for over a year. In the end Comreg settled on a 'Fair' price of about €14.50 (€17.55 incl VAT)as the cost to the other carrier. This means that the other carrier could make some money while charging under €20 a month on the rental to the end customer. Eircom went ape and so did the union representing Biddy. Remember that the price Comreg wants to set (around €14.50 ex vat) will be the second highest in the EU anyway and almost Twice what the Eircom equivalent in ither countries will charge the Esat equivalent for the same kind of service.

Then they all went a courting. We may have the service at a decent price around 2005 sometime once the lawyers have made their €50k a day out of us all.

M

De Rebel

Originally posted by Scruff
I think its good news if true. Means there will be less hassle moving off €ircom to another carrier.

It is very very good news for everyone except eircom. Which is why they are fighting it tooth and nail. In many ways it is a watershed. True competition will never happen until "single billing" is in place - too many people are afraid of having a problem and then ending up in a position where they are the "hang" in the sandwich - the olo telling them that its an eircom problem and eircom telling them that its a problem with the olo. Once we have single billing we will also have a single point of contact for problems. And eircom know that that is when a LOT of the more conservative business traffic will migrate away from them.

query

For God's sake, it's got nothing to do with LLU. The Wholesale Line Rental price was agreed and published ages ago - it's 8.5% below the retail rate.

spongebob

and Eircom got an 8% rise in line rental last month to implement Single Billing ...independent of LLU yes ....I have a hangover sorry.

but we still don't have single billing , it is being tested but Eircom have their money already and we dont have a date when we can go to ....say ....UTV .

M

eirebhoy

Originally posted by Scruff
then you won't have to pay seperate line rental to €ircom.
You'll just pay the one bill to who ever is your carrier.

Do UTV charge a seperate line rental aswell?