Having been to a few naturist beaches both here and on the continent, I think it fair to say that there is a certain sexual element to being naked in public under the sun (at least for the first few hours), especially coming from such a repressive background, as the old Ireland was.
We are all sexual beings, and I think it is quite normal to want to ‘check each other out’ in some way. Personally, if I see someone taking a discrete peek I tend to take it as a compliment.
That said, I do not for one minute condone the ‘lewd’ behaviour that you see on Irish beaches. If someone wants to get all hot and bothered about the whole thing at least do it somewhere private!
I cannot say I have ever found Naturism to be a sexual experience, but then I have had Naturist tendencies since a very early age, long before I developed any sexual awareness.
I think you are right when you blame such feelings on a repressed upbringing and equally right when you say that it wears off after a few hours (or minutes according to some I have spoken to). It is a well know fact that boys raised in a puritanical environment have a greater interest in pornography...
As for lewd behaviour, this is not what Naturism is about, but sadly some people think that a Naturist beach is a good place for dogging! To them I will say IT IS NOT! Anyone engaging in such acts is just as unwelcome at a Naturist beach as anywhere else and we are encouraging our members to report any such behaviour to the police. I have seen people arrested as a result of such reports and they have ended up on the sexual offenders register.
I thought the lack of nudist/nautirst beaches in Ireland was moreso due to the horrible weather than anything else?
Personally, I wouldn't have any kind of problem with it and I think most people wouldn't bat an eyelid.
However, we Irish seem to have some kind of ingrained societal shame when it comes to our bodies (perhaps due to the massive role the church has played in Irish life in the past). Many (mainly older) people are very concerned with "modesty" etc. and I could certainly see these people getting offended. Also there's the issue of parents who don't want their children asking awkward questions.
This is the reaction of the vast majority (88%), if our surveys are anything to go by...
Pope John Paul II from his book "The Theology of the Body": "The human body can remain nude and uncovered and preserve intact its splendour and its beauty... Nakedness as such is not to be equated with physical shamelessness... Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a negative role with regard to the value of the person...The human body is not in itself shameful... Shamelessness (just like shame and modesty) is a function of the interior of a person."
Yes, I suppose that a few ‘hours’ is a bit of an exaggeration.
‘An hour’ would be more accurate!
The Irish climate allows swimming on beaches occasionally and a lot fo people go in for it. A swimsuit doesn't really keep you any warmer.
Agree with the rest of it, but I really think most parents are not that bothered if the kid sees another naked person. Probably see them in swimming pool changign rooms all the time.
exactly, go into any swimming pool changing room in the country (male changing rooms at least) and there are people walking around naked and no1 seems to bat an eye... the problem seems to be members of the opposite sex being naked, its all a bit stupid really, its only a body at the end of the day!!
Not all climates dictate that ‘we be covered in fur or blubber’.
Peoples such as the aborigines, large populations of Africans (where man has supposedly originated), tropical inhabitants etc. etc. regularly go naked on a day-to-day basis.
I think it is VERY natural!
"Natural" and the notion of the "return to innocence" is a common thread in European thought throughout the ages. The notion of getting back to simpler, less judgemental times. Indeed not just in Europe, it's common in every advanced* and complex and especially rapidly changing civilisation. IMHO Naturism is an example of that. The body luddite in a way. The comfort blanket from a past that never existed. Cool and the gang if it's a personal preference but I take issue when it's dressed up as "natural", when such dressing up is culturally subjective and anthropologically misinformed.
*or retarded depending on viewpoint. Though I see issues in complex civilisations, I'd go still go with advanced as I'm not a hippie.
if the weather is as nice tomorrow as it is today im headin down to brittas bay, any1 fancy headin down?? oh tomorrow is the 15/07/2011 by the way
There seems to have been a falling off of interest in this topic here. Can't imagine why!
I was at Brittas naturist part yesterday, it was lovely there
No point taking things too seriously!
i was sitting at work listening to 2 people saying about their holiday in gran canaria being spoilt because they liked to walk along the beach every day and they had to see all the people on the nudist beach and it was disgusting. When i asked why didnt they walk elsewhere or just avert their eyes when walking through the clearly marked nudist beach they replied that they supposed i went on the nudist beach otherwise i would agree with them.
I explained that i did go to the nudist beach and had a very enjoyable holiday but then i didn't waste my time judging the people wearing clothes on the beach.