Claw Hammer Registered User
#46

seamus said:
The landlord doesn't need the tenants' acquiescence in this particular scenario. They can text ahead on the day before they pop down and don't have to wait for a response.

If the tenant doesn't want it, they can let the landlord know. But unlike access to the inside of the property, they landlord doesn't need permission to enter onto the curtilage.

That is, presuming he's talking about the front of the house and not the back as well.


No one ever said the landlord needs the tenants acquiescence. What if it rains and the landlord doesn't come he then has to give another text for another day since he can't rely on the previous text didn't show up?

TheBoyConor Registered User
#47

Landlord comes and cuts the grass whenever.
Came to replace a smashed window another day after a stone flew from the mower the previous time he cut it.
Doesn't bother me.

Actually, one time we had a minor leak and he was to come around to fix it but didn't say a specific day or time just "some day". My housmate was off work that day and is a big strong bodybuilder guy and not a type to take any crap. He was in his room. As landlord was coming in the hallway my housemate was coming out of the room onto the landing. They both stopped stunned and stared at eachother up/down the stairs for a moment. The landlord wasn't expecting anyone to be home. Housemate didn't recognise landlord as he had never met him in person. His first thought was that it was a burglar coming in as landlord was wearing rubber gloves, ready to deal with the leak. Housemate moved to the stairs ready to confront or beat the landlord until the landlord panicked and pleaded with him "oh no, no! It's ok, I'm the landlord, I'm the landlord, its OK"
This all happened within a space of 3 or 4 seconds.
So yeah, there can be misunderstandings....

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#48

Claw Hammer said:
No one ever said the landlord needs the tenants acquiescence. What if it rains and the landlord doesn't come he then has to give another text for another day since he can't rely on the previous text didn't show up?
My point is that texting the night before is overkill. He can send a text that morning when he knows how the day is panning out.

If the tenant doesn't like it, he can cut his own grass.

TomOnBoard Registered User
#49

4ensic15 said:
He is not obliged to give the tenant notice. Under the RTA he is obliged to maintain the lawn unless the contract provides otherwise. She can undertake to cut it herself or pay to have it cut if she doesn't like him coming.


I would agree with this. If it was being cut by a gardens service, they would just turn up within broad timing parameters.

However, it may be for example that she has an infant whose sleep would be disturbed.. That might justify different arrangements for a while??

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TomOnBoard Registered User
#50

henryforde80 said:
Making a mountain out of a moehill here to be honest.


There are no moles in Ireland so that's not possible...

ELM327 Registered User
#51

4ensic15 said:
He is not obliged to give the tenant notice.

Under the RTA the tenant is entitled to uninterrupted use of the property.
Having the LL on the property is interruptiung the use.

Notice is required.

4ensic15 said:
Under the RTA he is obliged to maintain the lawn unless the contract provides otherwise. She can undertake to cut it herself or pay to have it cut if she doesn't like him coming.

Correct.
But whatever she does does not absolve the LL from his obligation.

K.Flyer Registered User
#52

People in apartment complexes don't get notice that the grass is going to be cut or bushes cut back on certain days, although they will notify when painting or window cleaning is scheduled.
She is lucky that the L.L. is tending to the gardening, as most don't.

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Edgware Registered User
#53

K.Flyer said:
People in apartment complexes don't get notice that the grass is going to be cut or bushes cut back on certain days, although they will notify when painting or window cleaning is scheduled.
She is lucky that the L.L. is tending to the gardening, as most don't.

She'd have another whinge if he didn't

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4ensic15 Registered User
#54

ELM327 said:
Under the RTA the tenant is entitled to uninterrupted use of the property.


The tenant is only entitled to peaceful enjoyment. The LL is obliged to maintain the exterior. Only if he is abusing the right such as coming excessively would the tenant have grounds for a complaint. You should try reading the legislation some time.

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ELM327 Registered User
#55

4ensic15 said:
The tenant is only entitled to peaceful enjoyment. The LL is obliged to maintain the exterior. Only if he is abusing the right such as coming excessively would the tenant have grounds for a complaint. You should try reading the legislation some time.

You should try the enjoyment of polite non-aggressive discussion.
K.Flyer said:
People in apartment complexes don't get notice that the grass is going to be cut or bushes cut back on certain days, although they will notify when painting or window cleaning is scheduled.
She is lucky that the L.L. is tending to the gardening, as most don't.

That;'s because it's not part of the property.
In an apartment the central areas are property of the OMC

DubJJ Registered User
#56

I have to admit I'm amazed at some of the responses on this thread, we live in an age where everybody has a mobile phone and a text message takes seconds and costs nothing!
I don't think it's ok for somebody to turn up at my home anytime they want, where my wife and kids might be alone and startled. We are all entitled to walk around our home in our underwear or let the kids get dressed without the fear of somebody peering through the window or wandering around the garden unannounced.
I respect that this landlord takes pride in their property and I commend them for taking responsibility for the garden, but surely out of common courtesy a simple text message before hand would be the least that a tenant could expect.
Forget the legalities or tenant/landlord rights, we are talking about people just respecting each others boundaries!

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Cows Go µ Registered User
#57

In my last rented house, the landlord had a guy who would come over to cut the grass. I was thankful but he refused to give me any notice. Which was really annoying because I had 2 dogs so I would have done a poo lift in the garden if I knew someone was coming (I did it quite often but I'd prefer to have it completely clear)

4ensic15 Registered User
#58

DubJJ said:
I have to admit I'm amazed at some of the responses on this thread, we live in an age where everybody has a mobile phone and a text message takes seconds and costs nothing!
I don't think it's ok for somebody to turn up at my home anytime they want, where my wife and kids might be alone and startled. We are all entitled to walk around our home in our underwear or let the kids get dressed without the fear of somebody peering through the window or wandering around the garden unannounced.
I respect that this landlord takes pride in their property and I commend them for taking responsibility for the garden, but surely out of common courtesy a simple text message before hand would be the least that a tenant could expect.
Forget the legalities or tenant/landlord rights, we are talking about people just respecting each others boundaries!


If something happens reasonably frequently nobody will be startled. Walking around the house in your underwear is giving bad example to children. Underwear is just that - underwear and should not be used as outerwear.

DubJJ Registered User
#59

4ensic15 said:
DubJJ said:
I have to admit I'm amazed at some of the responses on this thread, we live in an age where everybody has a mobile phone and a text message takes seconds and costs nothing!
I don't think it's ok for somebody to turn up at my home anytime they want, where my wife and kids might be alone and startled. We are all entitled to walk around our home in our underwear or let the kids get dressed without the fear of somebody peering through the window or wandering around the garden unannounced.
I respect that this landlord takes pride in their property and I commend them for taking responsibility for the garden, but surely out of common courtesy a simple text message before hand would be the least that a tenant could expect.
Forget the legalities or tenant/landlord rights, we are talking about people just respecting each others boundaries!


If something happens reasonably frequently nobody will be startled. Walking around the house in your underwear is giving bad example to children. Underwear is just that - underwear and should not be used as outerwear.

What a ridiculous argument, do you actually have any sensible reason why a text message couldn't be sent first?

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