BowWow Registered User
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https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2018/09/church-of-ireland-parish-registers-to.html

What will this mean?

e.g.
Free online access to these records?
What about records not held in Churchtown?
Records only available after 100 years?

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pinkypinky Moderator
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Other CoI records have gone onto irishgenealogy.ie so it would make most sense to put them there and I'd be amazed if they weren't free.

Records not held in the RCBL will presumably stay wherever they are.

I'd expect them to be subject to the data protection rules set down for the civil registers.

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BowWow Registered User
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pinkypinky said:
Records not held in the RCBL will presumably stay wherever they are.


Would be great to see all CofI records together and accessable.

BowWow Registered User
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pinkypinky said:
I'd expect them to be subject to the data protection rules set down for the civil registers.


Makes sense and would be good if applied to all church records.

pinkypinky Moderator
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Just had a thought though: COI records up to 1870 are public records (established church), after that, they aren't.

Other churches' records have never been public so the state is not likely to ever gain control of them.

I also note Claire Santry's report is now updated to say they will be on irishgenealogy.ie and the COI statement says over time they will also include registers in local custody not just in the RCBL.

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BowWow Registered User
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pinkypinky said:
I also note Claire Santry's report is now updated to say they will be on irishgenealogy.ie and the COI statement says over time they will also include registers in local custody not just in the RCBL.


Excellent news!

https://www.ireland.anglican.org/news/8247/100000-grant-supports-digitisation-of

hblock21 Registered User
#7

I presume these records have no significance whatsoever for researchers whose families were all catholic? Hoping I'm wrong.

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Hermy Registered User
#8

Sometimes Catholics were married or baptised in CoI churches so there may be some significance.

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mod9maple Registered User
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hblock21 said:
I presume these records have no significance whatsoever for researchers whose families were all catholic? Hoping I'm wrong.

Hermy said:
Sometimes Catholics were married or baptised in CoI churches so there may be some significance.


I was just about to ask the same question. I wonder how often that actually happened, Catholics 'using' COI places of worship? Has anyone here ever come across it in their research? I've never really understood why it would happen, actually.

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pinkypinky Moderator
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In practice, I think it's only use of burial grounds that we find RCs in COI churches.

L1011 Moderator
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pinkypinky said:
In practice, I think it's only use of burial grounds that we find RCs in COI churches.


A few "missing" marriages on Roots Ireland for me turned out to be COI marraiges (presumably the spouse was) when I could eventually see the GRO image. I also have members of my family that seemed to forget which religion they were between censuses and occasionally children! Political expediency for jobs on one side and nationalist agitation on the other I think; one extremely English/Anglican surname becoming a Catholic land agitator in the late 1800s and his son being in the IRA in 1919 is much more likely to be explained by expediency than a change in faith.

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BowWow Registered User
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I have a few surnames in my tree that look like ¨planter¨ stock. Think they married into catholic families in early 19th. century. Hoping that CofI records might assist there.

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murf96 Registered User
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hblock21 said:
I presume these records have no significance whatsoever for researchers whose families were all catholic? Hoping I'm wrong.


In 1863, my distant relative, Ellen Murphy, a Catholic, married Protestant William Morton at Clondagad, Co Clare. I first came across this marriage in the Familysearch marriages database. It is also referenced in the Ennis COI marriage index.
William was employed as a coachman for Protestant landlord William H Ball of Fortfergus. I rather suspect that if William had converted to Popery at that time it may well have cost him his job, for Major Ball was not on friendly terms with the local Catholic clergy. So William remained a Protestant for most of his life, until in 1913, at age 75, Ellen finally persuaded him to convert to Catholicism. He died a Catholic four years later.
I have no way of knowing how common such mixed marriages were, but I put this forward as one example of how the digitisation of COI records can be of assistance even to researchers of Catholic forebears.

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