westtip Registered User
#91

Muckyboots said:
Great input from Ciaran Cannon at 38 mins with some nice WRC bants at 1.21 . Sean Canney change his tact?? Oh no he hasn't. But the rail review fuse has finally been lit...… or has it?
https://galwaybayfm.ie/podcast-keith-finnegan-show-thursday-9th/



Agreed great piece of work by Ciaran Cannon, but they are going to can kick again and again this is now becoming obvious.

marno21 Moderator
#92

Someone better tell Peter Feeney that the Waterford-Dungarvan greenway is part of a disused railway alignment that ran all the way to Mallow..

It is fair to say that Athenry-Tuam is quite a high standard railway alignment given it's segregated. It's the abomination north of Tuam is what's useless.

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Del.Monte Registered User
#93

marno21 said:
Someone better tell Peter Feeney that the Waterford-Dungarvan greenway is part of a disused railway alignment that ran all the way to Mallow..

It is fair to say that Athenry-Tuam is quite a high standard railway alignment given it's segregated. It's the abomination north of Tuam is what's useless.


What does this even mean?

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marno21 Moderator
#94

Del.Monte said:
What does this even mean?

The alignment north of Tuam is terrible. It's not good enough for a reasonable speed modern railway. The alignment south of Tuam is of a decent standard, much better than north of Tuam.

Del.Monte Registered User
#95

marno21 said:
The alignment north of Tuam is terrible. It's not good enough for a reasonable speed modern railway. The alignment south of Tuam is of a decent standard, much better than north of Tuam.


What's wrong with the 'alignment' save for some LCs that need eliminating? It's part of a through route not some useless branch from Athenry to Claremorris.

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Isambard Registered User
#96

the alignment and formation north of Claremorris is brutal but the bit south to Tuam isn't too bad is it?

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Del.Monte Registered User
#97

Isambard said:
the alignment and formation north of Claremorris is brutal but the bit south to Tuam isn't too bad is it?


And you know this how?

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Muckyboots Registered User
#98

Del.Monte said:
And you know this how?

I've walked it regularly and cycled along its route often. You could put a man walking in front of the train waving a red flag. I have a few candidates in mind.

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eastwest Registered User
#99

marno21 said:
The alignment north of Tuam is terrible. It's not good enough for a reasonable speed modern railway. The alignment south of Tuam is of a decent standard, much better than north of Tuam.


Apart from the bit that is falling into the bog.
And the missing bridge.
And the few miles that need raising significantly if a bridge was to be built.
And the fact that it closed because nobody was using it.
Aye, sure it's grand.

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Del.Monte Registered User
#100

Muckyboots said:
I've walked it regularly and cycled along its route often. You could put a man walking in front of the train waving a red flag. I have a few candidates in mind.


Yes. yes that may be the state CIE have allowed the line to lapse into today but has nothing to do with with potential as a through route. Unlike most of the posters here I have travelled over the route many times by train rather than bicycle and there's little wrong with the 'alignment' that the elimination of a few crossings wouldn't put right.

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Isambard Registered User
#101

the section north from Claremorris was always a lightly laid line not of the same standard as other lines. It's nothing to do with CIE neglect. What potential does a line from Claremorris to Sligo have as a through route?

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DaCor Registered User
#102

Del.Monte said:
Yes. yes that may be the state CIE have allowed the line to lapse into today but has nothing to do with with potential as a through route. Unlike most of the posters here I have travelled over the route many times by train rather than bicycle and there's little wrong with the 'alignment' that the elimination of a few crossings wouldn't put right.


Shame there isn't the population density to justify the cost

What was the last CB ratio? 100/6?

What's the bare minimum? 100/80

We'll all be long dead and buried before it would be logical to reopen that line. In the meantime it can serve communities along the route in another way

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end of the road Registered User
#103

DaCor said:
Shame there isn't the population density to justify the cost


to tuam certainly would.

DaCor said:
In the meantime it can serve communities along the route in another way


it can, but i have a feeling that it is unlikely to. realistically, the government look to have little interest in putting either a greenway or a railway on that alinement. yee should have gone for a different route and you would likely have had a greenway years ago. at this rate by the looks of it i have a feeling yee will get nothing.

eastwest Registered User
#104

end of the road said:
to tuam certainly would.


it can, but i have a feeling that it is unlikely to. realistically, the government look to have little interest in putting either a greenway or a railway on that alinement. yee should have gone for a different route and you would likely have had a greenway years ago. at this rate by the looks of it i have a feeling yee will get nothing.


You're probably right about getting nothing; once there is a division of opinion among councillors nothing can happen.
However when it comes to identifying a different route, that sums up where the rail lobby screwed up. If they had pushed for a railway alongside a revamped M17/N17, and if the first phase of the wrc had been built alongside the motorway from Limerick, it might just have performed well enough to tempt some reckless minister into edging it northwards.
Now however with the failure of the first bit to deliver, other than existing commuter traffic at either end, the wrc project is dead in the water, and nothing can change that.

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end of the road Registered User
#105

eastwest said:
You're probably right about getting nothing; once there is a division of opinion among councillors nothing can happen.
However when it comes to identifying a different route, that sums up where the rail lobby screwed up. If they had pushed for a railway alongside a revamped M17/N17, and if the first phase of the wrc had been built alongside the motorway from Limerick, it might just have performed well enough to tempt some reckless minister into edging it northwards.
Now however with the failure of the first bit to deliver, other than existing commuter traffic at either end, the wrc project is dead in the water, and nothing can change that.



that applies to both sides. both needed to find alternative routings incase the one they wanted would cause their project to be severely delaid or ignored altogether by central government.

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