DaCor Registered User
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Carrying on with the discussion as the other thread is full

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2055766866/1

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Grandeeod Registered User
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First in. Just for the craic and obvious sensible discussion. A good start would be a re-posting of the flood repair costs from the old thread.

Del.Monte Registered User
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And this old classic deserves a repeat.

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westtip Registered User
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As this was the last word (thanks for that honour Devnull) on the last thread as I was saying
More bad news for railway campaigners from the Oireachtas committee rooms, look at the committee this week looking into flooding on Limerick/Athenry line, as Irish Rail tell the committee it will cost 10 million to fix the flooding problem on the branch line from Limerick to Athenry, can't see anyone coughing that up, best way to get a train from Limerick to Athenry, check weather forecast first

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/oireach...mmittees/1692/


At 1.07, Irish Rail start talking about the Ballycar flooding issue he said that the optimum solution for the flooding on the wrc -- raising the track -- would cost 10 million and is unviable.
He also says that Irish Rail sees greenways as the best option for protecting disused alignments in the medium term avoid the mistakes of the past where incursions caused problems.
At 1.42 Michael Fitzmaurice asks a direct question about what IR sees as medium term, and whether there was any plan in the medium term to extend the wrc. Irish Rail spokesman said 5 years was medium term and there is no plan to extend the wrc.

Interesting stuff, I was reminded of Gerry Murray SF cllr for the Charlestown Co Mayo, famously stating on national television five years ago, "The Western Rail Corridor is not up for discussion", he got that one right but perhaps not in the way he meant!

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Grandeeod Registered User
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Del.Monte said:
And this old classic deserves a repeat.



Stalker!

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Muckyboots Registered User
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https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2018/0528/966660-waterford-port/ BALLINA - WATERFORD
"Late last year, DFDS reduced the rail service to one departure per week to seek to minimise losses while keeping the rail service going.
"Unfortunately, despite the best efforts of all parties involved, DFDS have now concluded that the rail service cannot continue in its current form and we must cease to operate it."

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marno21 Moderator
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Not sure how recent this is but all level crossing signage and flashing lights at the three level crossings on the N17 between Tuam and Claremorris have now been removed

One of the level crossings has also had the rails covered in tarmac so that's Tuam-Claremorris now split at two points (at least) along the line

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Drifter50 Registered User
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Muckyboots said:
https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2018/0528/966660-waterford-port/ BALLINA - WATERFORD
"Late last year, DFDS reduced the rail service to one departure per week to seek to minimise losses while keeping the rail service going.
"Unfortunately, despite the best efforts of all parties involved, DFDS have now concluded that the rail service cannot continue in its current form and we must cease to operate it."


This is really not good news for Railfreight in Ireland that was starting to see opportunities to take more freight off the road. Very bad for Waterford and Ballina

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Del.Monte Registered User
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The trouble with rail freight today is that we have long passed the tipping point, yards and gantries swept away, staff gone, sidings gone, wagons gone, locomotives..blah, blah, blah. It has little to do with distances being too short or the so-called motorway network and more to do with the State paying lip service to the railways, carbon emissions etc.etc. blah, blah.

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marno21 Moderator
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Del.Monte said:
The trouble with rail freight today is that we have long passed the tipping point, yards and gantries swept away, staff gone, sidings gone, wagons gone, locomotives..blah, blah, blah. It has little to do with distances being too short or the so-called motorway network and more to do with the State paying lip service to the railways, carbon emissions etc.etc. blah, blah.

Wasn't that long ago there was talk of the Manulla branch closing. Hard for any potential customer to take railfreight seriously as an option if the railway line to be used is up in the air. Same with the Waterford-Limerick railway.

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DaCor Registered User
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Ciaran Cannon calling for an end to the talk of extending the WRC on foot of the DFDS move

https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-junior-minister-says-western-rail-corridor-extension-should-be-abandoned/

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Del.Monte Registered User
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DaCor said:
Ciaran Cannon calling for an end to the talk of extending the WRC on foot of the DFDS move

https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-junior-minister-says-western-rail-corridor-extension-should-be-abandoned/


Another visionary politician.

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Grandeeod Registered User
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Del.Monte said:
Another visionary politician.


In fairness DFDS aren't making money on the route and that particular freight traffic was used by WRC campaigners as a reason to reopen to Claremorris. If you know of another reason why it wasn't a success, I'm all ears.

This particular politician is like many of them and they are never visionary anyway. However since the Ennis - Athenry part reopened, the argument was doomed. The only way and it is the only way, to successfully reopen any railway in Ireland, is to subsidize it to the hilt. But as you well know that is an entirely different argument/debate. Personally I'd have no problem with any reopening, once the sitting Government is happy to subsidize it and not at the expense of more justifiable reopenings/vital rail projects. Oh and lets not forget that the CIE dinosaur needs to be dismantled, melted down and sunk into a concrete bunker before anything happens.

#greenway.

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Jamie2k9 Registered User
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Excellent news about WRC!

DaCor Registered User
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Some news about the Connemara greenway and the support of landowners along the route.

I think it's safe to say that the days of the WRC as a railway from Athenry northwards are numbered. Once Galwegians see the benefits it bring to Connemara they'll be clamoring for the Western Rail Trail to be developed

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