rizdub Registered User
#106

seamus said:
Play white noise when you go down to sleep, play it loud. You'll be surprised how quickly you get used to it.

Complaining about the sounds of children playing during daytime hours in a residential area is an absolute waste of your time. And it's unreasonable, even if you it is causing you genuine issues. As a shift worker though the onus is on you to account for the difficulties that daytime sleeping brings. This is one of them.

Trust me, kids don't need any encouragement to scream and make noise. What the creche workers say and do is irrelevant.



i agree with this advise of using white noise... i have small kids and when they are sleeping during the day i use portable fan to create some white noise so that they dont wake up due to cooking and TV noise etc..

DoozerT6 Registered User
#107

jeepcj said:
I highly doubt you will be able to change the windows to triple glazing as you only own inside the apartment, it will be up to the management company to pay for and replace windows


I had a serious problem with one of my windows, and when I contacted the management company they said it was up to me to replace it! So I did, out of my own pocket. I think the mgt co are only responsible for the actual structure/outer shell itself (and I imagine all communal areas), and things like replacing windows or patio doors in each individual apartment are up to the owner. No harm to contact them though, just to clarify.

pwurple Registered User
#108

How about requesting some noise buffering in the outside area? For example, in the Elysian complex in cork, they use water features and trees in the courtyards instead of concrete, to buffer the traffic noise. Something natural like that does a great job. Concrete will just echo everything around. Some hedging, trees, plants or water will all absorb sound, break it up and deaden it down for you. 
I think it's great the children are outside, not locked indoors. Best thing for them. Disturbing the neighbours is not good, and it doesn't sound like you're being unreasonable.

You and the children, and everyone else are part of a community, and finding ways to co-exist is the key!

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Gems stone Registered User
#109

Hi did you have any resolution with the crèche. I have a crèche just over my garden wall & the children are outside from 8 in morning until 6 (70 kids)they’ve even put in a gazebo for when it rains!! Yes they’re encouraged to scream constantly at the top of their lungs. When I approached them they told me that I couldn’t expect them to be quiet. I’m now considering moving as with the wonderful summer we’ve just had I’m absolutely sick of it! Any legal information appreciated as that’s another option but I don’t think there’s any legislation for crèches creating noise!

Yurple Registered User
#110

Gems stone said:
Hi did you have any resolution with the crèche. I have a crèche just over my garden wall & the children are outside from 8 in morning until 6 (70 kids)they’ve even put in a gazebo for when it rains!! Yes they’re encouraged to scream constantly at the top of their lungs. When I approached them they told me that I couldn’t expect them to be quiet. I’m now considering moving as with the wonderful summer we’ve just had I’m absolutely sick of it! Any legal information appreciated as that’s another option but I don’t think there’s any legislation for crèches creating noise!


Hi! Sadly no resolution whatsoever and it has actually gotten worse. The care workers now actually ask the children to all see who can scream the loudest and longest. I have even made a video just in case I need it in the future.

A little girl screamed so loud and long she started crying afterwards and said her neck/throat hurts.

I have contacted their management about this who responded to say they would pass it on to the location supervisor. Since then everything is worse. They come out earlier, stay out longer and later. They are also louder and more extreme. Almost like it has been done on purpose because I complaint.

I cannot move since my apartment is still in negative equity so I am looking for a different job as that is the only resolution left. It is very difficult and makes life very stressful.

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pwurple Registered User
#111

You didn't mention about softening the sound echos, with trees, noise reduction foam etc?

iamwhoiam Registered User
#112

There is a huge difference between kids playing loudly and being encouraged to scream at the top of their lungs .What on earth is that all about ? Its neither good for the community or for the children ?

If its in Dublin South County I know there is an environmental officer you can contact about noise or lighting pollution . I am sure other councils have the same . We contacted him regarding annoying lighting on a private industrial wall shining brightly into houses all night and he was extremely helpful on how we should proceed

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BrownFinger Registered User
#113

Can you record it for us?
I used to live 500m from a primary school and could here them in the yard at lunch time.
I'd say this is a complete head wreck.

Graces7 Registered User
#114

iamwhoiam said:
There is a huge difference between kids playing loudly and being encouraged to scream at the top of their lungs .What on earth is that all about ? Its neither good for the community or for the children ?

If its in Dublin South County I know there is an environmental officer you can contact about noise or lighting pollution . I am sure other councils have the same . We contacted him regarding annoying lighting on a private industrial wall shining brightly into houses all night and he was extremely helpful on how we should proceed



If the council hold back, have a word with EPA.

see

https://www.epa.ie/

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tretorn Registered User
#115

Some little girls do scream very loudly while playing, its always girls, boys seem to shout occasionally but not this full on loud screeching.

Its the parents fault to be honest, they dont correct their children and the children dont realise how loud they are.

The creche staff should be training the children too but ultimately if parents allow high pitched screaming at home then children will scream in creche too.

iamwhoiam Registered User
#116

tretorn said:
Some little girls do scream very loudly while playing, its always girls, boys seem to shout occasionally but not this full on loud screeching.

Its the parents fault to be honest, they dont correct their children and the children dont realise how loud they are.

The creche staff should be training the children too but ultimately if parents allow high pitched screaming at home then children will scream in creche too.


Well according to the OP the creche staff are actively encouraging the children to scream as loud as they can
Personally if a creche encouraged screaming like that I would complain about their management of small children

slavetothegrind Registered User
#117

OP secondary glazing internally is a solution for you.

There is a soundproofing company in dublin that are apparrently good was a thread on their work i'll try find it for you.

Caliden Registered User
#118

It's a crap route to go down but the district court could be an option.

Encouraging kids to be as noisy as possible is just laziness on the creche's part (and I'm sure they're getting paid quite well if it's Dublin).


Just record everything and make a note of the date you engaged with the creche then just file with the district court - http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-water-waste-and-environment-air-quality-monitoring-and-noise-control-noise/noisy


I live beside a creche and thankfully I've never had to hear 30 kids screaming at the top of their lungs at 9am. Thankfully all I hear is them laughing which is a lot more peaceful that screams of bloody murder.

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robp Registered User
#119

Yurple said:
Hi! Sadly no resolution whatsoever and it has actually gotten worse. The care workers now actually ask the children to all see who can scream the loudest and longest. I have even made a video just in case I need it in the future.

A little girl screamed so loud and long she started crying afterwards and said her neck/throat hurts.

I have contacted their management about this who responded to say they would pass it on to the location supervisor. Since then everything is worse. They come out earlier, stay out longer and later. They are also louder and more extreme. Almost like it has been done on purpose because I complaint.

I cannot move since my apartment is still in negative equity so I am looking for a different job as that is the only resolution left. It is very difficult and makes life very stressful.


Do you know much about the concept of airtightness? Maybe you have already looked into it but if not, have a look. If your airtightness is not great there may be easy gains that assist with noise reduction such as gaps in the window frames, power outlets, lighting and flooring. Alternatively improving airtightness be quite technical and expensive but it is worth checking

stinkbomb Registered User
#120

tretorn said:
Some little girls do scream very loudly while playing, its always girls, boys seem to shout occasionally but not this full on loud screeching.

Its the parents fault to be honest, they dont correct their children and the children dont realise how loud they are.

The creche staff should be training the children too but ultimately if parents allow high pitched screaming at home then children will scream in creche too.


To be fair thats not always true. I have a small screechy child that I am constantly correcting and telling to be quiet, stop that screech etc etc, they still do it when they get excited no matter how many times they were told not to.
And if like here the creche workers are encouraging them to do it, how is that the parents fault, who are not there?

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