Billy86 Registered User
#241

Not to go off topic but I get a feeling I've seen that shop right at the start of the video in The Wire... possibly where some character bought individual cigarettes. Random but it just jumped right out at me.

klaz Registered User
#242

brendanwalsh said:
Usa Is an appalling country. Outside of the wealthy the country is a cesspool. Have you ever been to detroit. It's a post apocalyptic city. The American dream is a total lie. It exists for about 30% of rich white people. Large chunks of america are soulless dead , no hope cities/ghettos.


Detroit has been a bit of a dive for decades. That's well documented in movies. I've been to some lovely towns in the US. My ex lives in Salem, Oregon, and it's a gorgeous city.

The US has a lot of dodgy areas, but you can't judge the whole country by them. The US is a country of extremes. It's probably the most suitable sentence for describing the country. There really are some fantastic areas.

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PowerToWait Registered User
#243

brendanwalsh said:
Large chunks of america are soulless dead , no hope cities/ghettos.

Charliebo313 on YouTube has great videos


https://youtu.be/DVxeW1WLWpY


I presume you mean large chunks of urban USA. This isn't unique to America. Large parts of almost every city in the world are abandoned, soulless, derelict and grim af.

brendanwalsh Registered User
#244

PowerToWait said:
I presume you mean large chunks of urban USA. This isn't unique to America. Large parts of almost every city in the world are abandoned, soulless, derelict and grim af.


US has more of these dumps than the rest of the world. I was appalled when I went to detroit. A major world city and it's like the zombie apocalypse has come and gone. Junkies and crime everywhere. I'd rather work in spar than work in detroit.

Have you ever been to skid row Los Angeles. Another hell hole where the American dream went to die

Permabear Registered User
#245

brendanwalsh said:
Usa Is an appalling country. Outside of the wealthy the country is a cesspool. Have you ever been to detroit. It's a post apocalyptic city.


Detroit ≠ All of the United States.

jjbrien Registered User
#246

I am probably going to attract a lot of hate in this thread but after living and the states and coming back home you could not pay me to move back there. Ill detail my reasons. I lived in NJ and Minnesota so I got a good spread of the states from different states. I ll try give the pros and cons of living there.

Pro:
Lots of different culture all over the country now I know a lot of people say America has no culture but you find areas of the major citys New York, Minneapolis have lots of areas with different cultures ok Minnesota not as much its mainly Norwegian, Swedish and they do hold onto their traditions and national dishes.

Lots of different work opportunity

Large country to move around if you dont like one part move across the country

Cheap petroil

Lots of different activity's to do

Cheap taxes

Cons:

Healthcare really sucks

Job market is not as good as you think its filled mostly with contract roles which means you have to buy your own health insurance which can cost from $300 to $1000 per month

Public Transport once you leave the big cities sucks.

People can seem nice but really they are pretty shallow and will back stab you if they think they can get ahead of you in life.

Public Safety big issue with violence and guns. Even NJ has tough gun laws but violent crime is a daily occurrence.

The food whist its varied and you get massive portions the food even the healthy stuff is very bad for you a lot include's GMO's and other nasty stuff that is not allowed in Europe.

No matter where you live state side you will have to deal with the treat of some kind of natural disaster. When we lived in Minnesota it was tornado's and blizzards, in NJ it was the Hurricane's and out west the earth quakes of forrest fires. We were driving along one day in Minnesota and seen in the distance a tornado we drove like hell to get away from it.

Buying a car you will really get ripped off by dealers I got a 2013 Toyota Carolla the price on the tag was $8999 but after the registration fees/taxes which go to the state, the warranty which they force you to buy if you want it on credit and the gap insurance the car came out to $14500 so wasn't a good deal after all.

We left as we were messed around a lot. Coming home and getting a job was the best thing ever. I can take days off now and get paid for them I never had that in the states. I did become a US citizen when I was there so I do hold an Irish and American passport. My misses is American we will not only go back for a visit to have fun.

If the op has questions Ill try my best to answer them

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brendanwalsh Registered User
#247

jjbrien said:
I am probably going to attract a lot of hate in this thread but after living and the states and coming back home you could not pay me to move back there.

We left as we were messed around a lot. Coming home and getting a job was the best thing ever. I can take days off now and get paid for them I never had that in the states. I did become a US citizen when I was there so I do hold an Irish and American passport. My misses is American we will not only go back for a visit to have fun.

If the op has questions Ill try my best to answer them


Couldn't agree more with you. The best thing we've got in this world is our Irish passport. We are blessed. The social problems in the US are insane. The amount of mental health issues is gargantuan and that's due to the lack of available healthcare and the poverty these people are living in.

I will say one thing though, and that is that the value of your degree is worth ten times in the US what it is here. Any professionals who go over there can earn a multiple amount of money than that they could earn here. The United States really values education and a degree and will reward you handsomely for it. And equally a lot of Americans are priced out of a degree. In ireland a degree is worth nothing anymore. That BA from tralee IT would cost a Yankee 100k minimum.

DEFTLEFTHAND Registered User
#248

Chrongen said:
I'll get all those in Spain, Italy and the Balkans, thank you very much.
I won't have to deal with white-supremacist bible-thumpers and asshole cops demanding "respect".


Funny how you mention European countries which are noted for racism and aggressive policing.

Permabear Registered User
#249

brendanwalsh said:
That BA from tralee IT would cost a Yankee 100k minimum.


Absolutely not. An IT in Ireland would be roughly considered on a par with a community college in the USA, which generally charge around $4k a year to state residents. ITs in Ireland charge a "registration fee" of €3k a year. So the difference is negligible.

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jjbrien Registered User
#250

brendanwalsh said:
Couldn't agree more with you. The best thing we've got in this world is our Irish passport. We are blessed. The social problems in the US are insane. The amount of mental health issues is gargantuan and that's due to the lack of available healthcare and the poverty these people are living in.

I will say one thing though, and that is that the value of your degree is worth ten times in the US what it is here. Any professionals who go over there can earn a multiple amount of money than that they could earn here. The United States really values education and a degree and will reward you handsomely for it. And equally a lot of Americans are priced out of a degree. In ireland a degree is worth nothing anymore. That BA from tralee IT would cost a Yankee 100k minimum.


I did earn more there than I did this side of the pond but for the work life balance Id give it up any day. Having time to yourself is key. One place that asked me to almost live at work in NYC go into work for 7am and home at 10pm. I almost laughed when the guy said we will do your laundry for you.

TOss Sweep Registered User
#251

brendanwalsh said:
US has more of these dumps than the rest of the world. I was appalled when I went to detroit. A major world city and it's like the zombie apocalypse has come and gone. Junkies and crime everywhere. I'd rather work in spar than work in detroit.

Have you ever been to skid row Los Angeles. Another hell hole where the American dream went to die


Does it though? If you were to combine the whole of Europe together to make 1 country could you say this to be true? More dumps than say the middle east and asia? I am pretty sure it doesn't. You are over exaggerating the problem.

I have covered about 31 of the US states and I have seen some right sh1tholes but it is not as bad as you are making out. I have been to the arsehole of nowhere USA to a lot of the Urban sprawls and the sh1tholes are not as big as you might think. Detroit fell apart because of the motor industry.

As for LA? Worst example you could use. You have some of the wealthiest people living in LA in fact the ghettos in LA take up a small % of the city.

But your opinion is based on whats 2 cities out of thousands?

TOss Sweep Registered User
#252

brendanwalsh said:
I will say one thing though, and that is that the value of your degree is worth ten times in the US what it is here. Any professionals who go over there can earn a multiple amount of money than that they could earn here. The United States really values education and a degree and will reward you handsomely for it. And equally a lot of Americans are priced out of a degree. In ireland a degree is worth nothing anymore. That BA from tralee IT would cost a Yankee 100k minimum.


I dont have a degree and work in IT and earn quite a large salary. As permabear said techs and community colleges can get you educated in IT when in state for the same as they would back home. Once you are in the door and have experience that is where you make your money. Most companies in the IT sector also pay for you to get certified so you get a job get paid and then educate further within the role and move up or move on eventually.

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Electric Sheep Registered User
#253

TOss
brendanwalsh said:
I will say one thing though, and that is that the value of your degree is worth ten times in the US what it is here. Any professionals who go over there can earn a multiple amount of money than that they could earn here. The United States really values education and a degree and will reward you handsomely for it. And equally a lot of Americans are priced out of a degree. In ireland a degree is worth nothing anymore. That BA from tralee IT would cost a Yankee 100k minimum.


I dont have a degree and work in IT and earn quite a large salary. As permabear said techs and community colleges can get you educated in IT when in state for the same as they would back home. Once you are in the door and have experience that is where you make your money. Most companies in the IT sector also pay for you to get certified so you get a job get paid and then educate further within the role and move up or move on eventually.

Yes, this is exactly what I did. Once you have the experience nobody cares about your degree in the IT world in the U S. A good skillset and the ability to continually upskill will get you the good money and good conditions.

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jjbrien Registered User
#254

TOss Sweep said:
I dont have a degree and work in IT and earn quite a large salary. As permabear said techs and community colleges can get you educated in IT when in state for the same as they would back home. Once you are in the door and have experience that is where you make your money. Most companies in the IT sector also pay for you to get certified so you get a job get paid and then educate further within the role and move up or move on eventually.


Issue with community colleges in the states my wife went to one so I know from experince you can only get a Associates Degree from them, which is the same as a higher certificate from DIT etc. Once you want to move on to a bachelors they do have partnerships with University's but then the fees go up.

Electric Sheep Registered User
#255

jjbrien said:
TOss Sweep said:
I dont have a degree and work in IT and earn quite a large salary. As permabear said techs and community colleges can get you educated in IT when in state for the same as they would back home. Once you are in the door and have experience that is where you make your money. Most companies in the IT sector also pay for you to get certified so you get a job get paid and then educate further within the role and move up or move on eventually.


Issue with community colleges in the states my wife went to one so I know from experince you can only get a Associates Degree from them, which is the same as a higher certificate from DIT etc. Once you want to move on to a bachelors they do have partnerships with University's but then the fees go up.

Yes but by that time if you are any good you are already with a company that pays the fees.

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