A family members young lad ,was our topic of debate and discussion Friday afternoon.
Had they a valid ticket to cover their journey that they were entitled to use, yes or no?
Yes, but no ID to prove it , so bang to rights there it seems .
The debate we were having is if the inspector could tell them that they could increase the fine to 200 .
Will pass on all the info, cheers folks for all the replies and input
In general, it is up to the passenger to prove their age if they are underage. I used to get challenged on buses a lot as a kid as i looked a lot more than 15. The solution back then was a special CIE ID that said I was under 16; Apparently you can still get them if you read the link below; I am sure that Irish Rail will accept it as well.
As a general thing it may help their case if they travel regularly to use an underage Leapcard.
My daughter travelled on a local train service regularly when she was 14,15 and always brought her passport and BC in case she was queried.
Good information, thank you for that and the links, very helpful, will pass on.
The person can spare themselves this hassle in future by getting a CHILD Leap card surely? A personalized one?
As to the appeal if you have proof in the form of ID scan it in with the appeal and the appeal will be approved - simples.
There's age requirements for it. It's for from 16. They'll only let you get it at 15 in the run-up to your birthday. But if ops relative had a ticket, it's more likely they were making a journey not covered by leap. The leap card can't be used as a means of identification, nor for determining the age of someone.
Was this person underage or just trying it on?
What punishment could a 15 year old get if convicted of not having proof of age while having the correct toicket for their journey?
If they carry on and try to prosecute the child as an adult it won't end well in court for Irish Rail.