Topgear on Dave Registered User
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WRC are going to refer the dispute to the labour court according to Ingrid Miley.

https://twitter.com/ingridmileyRTE/status/963205307362168832

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gooddarts10 Registered User
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Topgear on Dave said:
WRC are going to refer the dispute to the labour court according to Ingrid Miley.

https://twitter.com/ingridmileyRTE/status/963205307362168832


And around we go again

fxotoole Registered User
#2,238

Topgear on Dave said:
WRC are going to refer the dispute to the labour court according to Ingrid Miley.

https://twitter.com/ingridmileyRTE/status/963205307362168832


what does 28/2 mean? 28 for, 2 against?

edit: never mind: result 28th Feb

gooddarts10 Registered User
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Any word on a date for the LRC yet ?

markodaly Registered User
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Topgear on Dave said:
WRC are going to refer the dispute to the labour court according to Ingrid Miley.

https://twitter.com/ingridmileyRTE/status/963205307362168832


The WRC and Labour Court have sure been kept busy by the guys in the NRBU and SIPTU.

StreetLight Registered User
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markodaly said:
The WRC and Labour Court have sure been kept busy by the guys in the NRBU and SIPTU.


An indication that the unions are actually making an active stand for their members? Which in itself is an indication that employment in the company concerned is not as rosy as some make it out to be.

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Jamie2k9 Registered User
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StreetLight said:
An indication that the unions are actually making an active stand for their members? Which in itself is an indication that employment in the company concerned is not as rosy as some make it out to be.


That's one view, another is gross incompetence to resolve and be proactive in changing times or looking after the minority and not the majority.

Any word on a date for the LRC yet ?


They usually take a month to 6 weeks and won't be rushed. If they issue something and drivers don't like it wonder where they will go from there!

The WRC and Labour Court have sure been kept busy by the guys in the NRBU and SIPTU.


Border line abuse of state industrial relations mechanisms

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jimmycrackcorm Registered User
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markodaly
The WRC and Labour Court have sure been kept busy by the guys in the NRBU and SIPTU.


Thankfully we should be seeing a figure reduction in the BE unions taking up their time now that they've lost the power to blackmail the public due to more efficient and effective private services.

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end of the road Registered User
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jimmycrackcorm said:
Thankfully we should be seeing a figure reduction in the BE unions taking up their time now that they've lost the power to blackmail the public due to more efficient and effective private services.


we will be seeing no figure reduction in the BE unions taking up their time, as they rarely took up their time anyway. they haven't lost the power to strike as the private operators only exist on a small few routes and aren't anywhere near effective as is made out due to their limited availability due to being commercial, profit making companies.

Night Falls Registered User
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end of the road said:
we will be seeing no figure reduction in the BE unions taking up their time, as they rarely took up their time anyway. they haven't lost the power to strike as the private operators only exist on a small few routes and aren't anywhere near effective as is made out due to their limited availability due to being commercial, profit making companies.


Have you any evidence of that last claim?

end of the road Registered User
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Night Falls said:
Have you any evidence of that last claim?


it's very obvious that if alternative operators operate fewer routes then bus eireann, then should bus eireann go out on strike then the other operator's effectiveness in being able to deal with the loss of services will be less due to their limited availability compared to bus eireann.

horseburger Registered User
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end of the road said:
it's very obvious that if alternative operators operate fewer routes then bus eireann, then should bus eireann go out on strike then the other operator's effectiveness in being able to deal with the loss of services will be less due to their limited availability compared to bus eireann.


I guess, an example of what you are saying, is when during the strike that occurred last April, that there was no other company operating a service, connecting the towns that are served on the Bus Éireann number 30, Dublin Donegal Town service. There was no other bus or rail service connecting Donegal Town, Ballyshannon, Cavan, Virginia and Dublin Airport and Dublin City Centre.

There have been changes to the Donegal Town Dublin number 30 service since 11th February. There are two more services operating during the night from Donegal Town to Dublin, at 2.30am and 4am, as well as 1am and 5.30am.

There are now services from Dublin at 11pm and 12.30am to Donegal Town.

The 2.30am and 5.30am services cover Bellanaleck, Derrylin, Belturbet and Butlersbridge. There is no other company operating at that time of night, to and from Dublin and Donegal Town.

There are also number 30 bus services, covering Bellanaleck, Derrylin, Belturbet and Butlersbridge, throughout the day, to and from Dublin and Donegal Town.

http://buseireann.ie/news.php?id=2591&month=Feb

http://www.buseireann.ie/timetables/1517307968-30.pdf

Perhaps, another example of what you are saying, is the difference in the timetables between the services operated between Bus Éireann and McGinley's Coaches, on their services between Letterkenny and Dublin.

Bus Éireann operates more daily services, to and from Dublin and Letterkenny, compared to McGinley's.

Bus Éireann operates a last service, in both directions, later than the last services operated in both directions by McGinley's Coaches.

McGinley's last service from Dublin, Monday to Friday is 7.30pm, on Saturday 5.45pm and Sunday 8.30pm.

McGinley's last service from Letterkenny to Dublin Monday to Saturday is 5.15pm, and on Sunday its last service from Letterkenny is 6.30pm.

The last Bus Éireann number 32 daily service from Letterkenny to Dublin is 7.45pm, and the last service from Dublin to Letterkenny is 10.45pm.

http://www.buseireann.ie/timetables/1478276752-32.pdf

http://www.johnmcginley.com/timetable.html#

http://www.johnmcginley.com/_route_a.html

http://www.johnmcginley.com/_route_b.html

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markodaly Registered User
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StreetLight said:
An indication that the unions are actually making an active stand for their members? Which in itself is an indication that employment in the company concerned is not as rosy as some make it out to be.


If it is all that bad, like some Dickinson novel you can always move to another job.

end of the road Registered User
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markodaly said:
If it is all that bad, like some Dickinson novel you can always move to another job.


you could, but you could also improve the terms and conditions of the job you are in, for the future betterment of yourself and future workers. moving jobs isn't always financially viable, or even desirable.

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markodaly Registered User
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end of the road said:
you could, but you could also improve the terms and conditions of the job you are in, for the future betterment of yourself and future workers. moving jobs isn't always financially viable, or even desirable.


Yes, you could do that. You could also train new drivers to help with the work load, no?

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