Hilly Bill Registered User
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trellheim said:
^^^^ the real problem. For all the rest of us, we get them on our phone.


Ha ha if I said to the boss, "I consider us a premium employer, so I won't be checking emails" youd be run out the door like speedy gonzales lol


They don't have a reason to check them anyway..

pjohnson Registered User
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eeguy said:
Ah they do. Plenty of the usual low post count " solidarity, yellow pack, race to the bottom, scab, neo capitalist" crap on this thread among others, especially when they were on strike.

Present company excepted, i know there's a few drivers actively commenting here who are very level headed, but you definitely see either driver or union representatives surfacing every so often with the usual socialist drivel.

They mostly get banned so cant actually be seen here. They dont do discussion really. Can imagine how fun negotiating with them would be!

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Jamie2k9 Registered User
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GM228 said:
"Consequent on the 1.15% increase, driver's terms and conditions will be amended to reflect the fact that the mentoring of trainee drivers is a requirement of the role of train drivers, eliminating any suggestion that this task is voluntary in nature" = industrial action.


Still quiet a measured response by the NBRU, surprised they weren't more aggressive in the response. Still better get the it sorted before the new guy arrives.

The only time they will use the email is to claim the card. That can be done for them. After that they don't have to check their emails and it will be blocked after about 50 days of not logging in. It's no big deal and and drivers are just moany.


This is what's wrong with the company, costing them a fortune in paper and a string of other things because they refuse to embrace change.

Hilly Bill Registered User
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GM228 said:
"Consequent on the 1.15% increase, driver's terms and conditions will be amended to reflect the fact that the mentoring of trainee drivers is a requirement of the role of train drivers, eliminating any suggestion that this task is voluntary in nature" = industrial action.


I'll save myself a days pay this time.

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Hilly Bill Registered User
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Jamie2k9 said:
Still quiet a measured response by the NBRU, surprised they weren't more aggressive in the response. Still better get the it sorted before the new guy arrives.


This is what's wrong with the company, costing them a fortune in paper and a string of other things because they refuse to embrace change.

No change to embrace, they are not being asked to work with emails and computers.

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Jamie2k9 Registered User
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Hilly Bill said:
No change to embrace, they are not being asked to work with emails and computers.


They are not been asked because they refuse to do it.

Hilly Bill Registered User
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Jamie2k9 said:
They are not been asked because they refuse to do it.


Are you on a wind up? You can't refuse something if you haven't been asked.

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Jamie2k9 Registered User
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Hilly Bill said:
Are you on a wind up? You can't refuse something if you haven't been asked.


No I'm not, ask all staff to receive pay slips electronically, weekly circular etc and see how it goes down.

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Just thinking about IE reasoning behind pushing driver training changes through, it means it will force unions into a choice a per longed period of industrial action or get a grip and make a deal after going out for a few days. They won't be able to sustain such industrial action. When you push and push, the company will eventually push back.

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Hilly Bill Registered User
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Just don't mentor or do overtime You will still get the 1% pay rise but not the allowance. How did the previous drivers get passed out to drive on their own? Who mentored them?

What do you want that will allow your fellow union members and colleagues to do the job they get paid to do so. At this rate they will need a refresher course before driving again.

Where did he go? Can't be on strike already

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gooddarts10 Registered User
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Hilly Bill said:
Just don't mentor or do overtime You will still get the 1% pay rise but not the allowance. How did the previous drivers get passed out to drive on their own? Who mentored them?

What do you want that will allow your fellow union members and colleagues to do the job they get paid to do so. At this rate they will need a refresher course before driving again.

Where did he go? Can't be on strike already

The trainee drivers who started in January 2016 just completed a 5 week refresher course they are ready to go

gooddarts10 Registered User
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gooddarts10 said:
The trainee drivers who started in January 2016 just completed a 5 week refresher course they are ready to go


AGAIN

Hilly Bill Registered User
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Why can't a dte bring them out a few times to see if they are compitent or do you need a certain amount of hours driving before being fully passed out.

gooddarts10 Registered User
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Hilly Bill said:
Why can't a dte bring them out a few times to see if they are compitent or do you need a certain amount of hours driving before being fully passed out.


150 hr for Dart 250 hr for diesel

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Jamie2k9 Registered User
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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/strike-threat-grows-at-irish-rail-in-row-over-mentoring-1.3353438

The company said that when undertaking mentoring arrangement, drivers would be paid an allowance of €31 per day – an increase of 35 per cent on the existing rate of €23.


Not sure if this line is part of the NBRU quote:

Up to now mentoring has been viewed as a voluntary arrangement.


If its only been viewed as such, then are T&Cs really been altered?

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Hilly Bill Registered User
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If i was one of the new drivers I'd bring a case for loss of earnings against the NBRU . Why should a new driver be denied the chance of earning extra money because the others want more? I wouldn't care that it wouldn't go down with the rest but I'm there to make money not friends. They are putting themselves first so why can't the new drivers?

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