cnocbui Registered User
#391

eeguy said:
1 Tesla was not on autopilot.
1 Tesla is currently being investigated.
1 Uber is currently being investigated.

The disengagements show that the reasons are no clear cut as you make out. There's plenty of reasons for the driver to take over, not only when the car is doing something it shouldn't.

Seeing as the cars are being trialled on US roads it makes sense to use US stats.


If you want to use US stats, be my guest.

Both fatal Tesla Accidents were while autopilot was engaged. Whoops, I missed the death in China so make that two confirmed, one probable, so likely 4 in all.

You are kidding yourself if you think the two incident's being investigated aren't the fault of the autonomous sytems.

Autopilot Cited in Death of Chinese Tesla Driver
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In an earlier blog post, Tesla said, “We have never seen this level of damage to a Model X in any other crash.” The extreme damage done to the victim’s vehicle, Tesla said, was due to an earlier crash that crushed the concrete divider’s aluminum crash attenuator, thus rendering the safety feature useless. It provided a photo taken the day before the fatal March 23 crash, showing that the feature had not been repaired.

After retrieving the vehicle’s digital logs, the company announced on Friday that the Model X was driving with its semi-autonomous Autopilot system engaged.
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The first known death caused by a self-driving car was disclosed by Tesla Motors on Thursday, a development that is sure to cause consumers to second-guess the trust they put in the booming autonomous vehicle industry.

The 7 May accident occurred in Williston, Florida, after the driver, Joshua Brown, 40, of Ohio put his Model S into Tesla’s autopilot mode, which is able to control the car during highway driving.
What happens when Tesla’s AutoPilot goes wrong: owners post swerving videos
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Against a bright spring sky, the car’s sensors system failed to distinguish a large white 18-wheel truck and trailer crossing the highway, Tesla said. The car attempted to drive full speed under the trailer, “with the bottom of the trailer impacting the windshield of the Model S”, Tesla said in a blogpost.

#392

cnocbui said:
If you want to use US stats, be my guest.

Both fatal Tesla Accidents were while autopilot was engaged. Whoops, I missed the death in China so make that two confirmed, one probable, so likely 4 in all.

You are kidding yourself if you think the two incident's being investigated aren't the fault of the autonomous sytems.


All right. So 4 deaths, caused by prototype beta systems that were meant to be supervised at the time of the incident, but weren't due to driver innatention.

Zero caused by fully autonomous because they're as yet unreleased.

DaCor Registered User
#393

Stagecoach gives trial to UK's first full-sized driverless bus

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/23/stagecoach-gives-trial-to-uk-first-full-sized-driverless-bus

Granted the bus will only be moving in the depot and not on the roads, its another step towards fully autonomous bus fleets.

At this rate I'd say it'll be the norm a hell of a lot faster than people expect

DaCor Registered User
#394

SELF-DRIVING TRUCKS ARE NOW DELIVERING REFRIGERATORS

https://www.wired.com/story/embark-self-driving-truck-deliveries/amp

Driving 650 miles, albeit with a human on board to monitor for now, since October 2017, autonomous trucks have been hauling Frigidaire refrigerators along the I-10 freeway, from a El Paso, Texas, to Palm Springs, California.

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DaCor Registered User
#395

The amount of trials of autonomous buses is growing with more and more cities around the world beginning their own trials

Australia - The NSW government is rolling out a trial of driverless vehicles in the mid-north coast tourism destination Coffs Harbour.
Read more at https://www.businessinsider.com.au/nsw-trial-autonomous-bus-2018-7#VWL8gvcV53f3xBf7.99

Canada - Montreal City announces pilot project for self-driving shuttle buses https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/city-announces-pilot-project-for-autonomous-buses

France - Macron appointed a senior official, Anne-Marie Idrac, to develop a national strategy for driverless mobility – including new laws, regulations for experiments and pilot projects, and cybersecurity and privacy issues. http://europe.autonews.com/article/20180808/ANE/180809840?template=mobile02&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1

New York - https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/18/coast-autonomous-shuttle-new-york/?guccounter=1

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