Beasty Administrator
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Perhaps another example of cycling being a victim of its own success. I know people from my own club do hill repeats there on occasion and equally there are many others using the hill to challenge themselves. I guess some locals might be getting a bit frustrated if they are finding cyclists getting in their way and it yet again highlights the importance of everyone observing all relevant traffic laws (as I'm guessing there's someone around there who may be all too prepared to report any transgressors).

George Hook did mention these posters earlier, but he did claim not to be responsible for them....

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AmberGold Registered User
#3

Saw this on Facebook earlier. When cycling up Howth Head over the years I have from time to time been blown off the road by motorists, this was when cycling solo and close enough to the kerb. I'm not surprised to see these signs.

Maybe some of the residents don't want to share their scenic locality with cyclists never mind the road. They'll be looking to put gates at Sutton Cross next.

As for George Hook isn't he the fella that likes wearing women's underwear but slags off cyclists for wearing lycra.

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Nika Bolokov Registered User
#4

As a cyclist and motorist Howth Head is becoming a bit of a pain.

Cyclists on a road bike for about two weeks without the required fitness or knowledge of gears are on expensive bikes trying to tackle the hill cycling side by side at a snail's pace wobbling all over the road.

Coming downhill some are going to be hurt and sometimes look like loosing control.

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AmberGold Registered User
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Nika Bolokov said:
As a cyclist and motorist Howth Head is becoming a bit of a pain.

Cyclists on a road bike for about two weeks without the required fitness or knowledge of gears are on expensive bikes trying to tackle the hill cycling side by side at a snail's pace wobbling all over the road.

Coming downhill some are going to be hurt and sometimes look like loosing control.


As someone who travels up Howth Head as both a cyclist and motorist a lot over the years I can't say I have noticed this. I wouldn't think its a route for only experienced riders on cheap bikes either. As we all know side by side and cycling in pairs is totally within the law.

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gaffmaster Registered User
#6

Saw this on Stickybottle too.

Some of the signs say slow down. Some of them say speed up/move out of the way. And some of them have Donald Trump on them and fail to use the plural for cyclist correctly.

#Fakenews

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Seanie_H Registered User
#7

When I read about these I thought 'it's been ages since I've been over to Howth - I must cycle over'. I'm not sure that was the intention of the person who put the posters up

I personally think that x2 abreast whilst climbing and particularly on that stretch of road is poor manners. I think there's probably a place for some warning signs on the decent too, it's steep on both sides. I'm always waiting on a granny coming out of the cemetery to t-bone me when I'm coming down.

It's a pity that we can't as a society have a more mature argument about this sort of thing instead of offensive posters. Or mouthy George Hook sticking his ancient oar in. I mean almost every cyclist is a motorist so we get their pain. Every driver knows a cyclist etc. We should be able to get along a little better. I guess the problem is that we're all a bit too selfish.

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Nika Bolokov Registered User
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AmberGold said:
As someone who travels up Howth Head as both a cyclist and motorist a lot over the years I can't say I have noticed this. I wouldn't think its a route for only experienced riders on cheap bikes either. As we all know side by side and cycling in pairs is totally within the law.


Within the law but very dangerous especially when wobbling out in front of cars as their legs give way or swerving past grannies from the cemetary at speed

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Lumen Registered User
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Nika Bolokov said:
Within the law but very dangerous especially when wobbling out in front of cars as their legs give way or swerving past grannies from the cemetary at speed

A cyclist does not "wobble out in front of cars". The cars are approaching a cyclist who may or may not wobble or adjust road position in front of them.

That's why it is recommended to give 1.5m passing room whilst overtaking, which is usually as easy to do whether the cyclists are single file or two abreast.

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daragh_ Registered User
#10

The sheer crapness of the posters aside - Howth is pretty clogged up of a weekend with cyclists of all types.

I've never really understood the appeal tbh. If it's on your doorstep fair enough but for me heading out that way on a training spin always seemed pointless - far too much hassle stopping and starting, negotiating traffic etc.

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Weepsie Registered User
#11

daragh_ said:
The sheer crapness of the posters aside - Howth is pretty clogged up of a weekend with cyclists of all types.

I've never really understood the appeal tbh. If it's on your doorstep fair enough but for me heading out that way on a training spin always seemed pointless - far too much hassle stopping and starting, negotiating traffic etc.


It's clogged up with far more cars though. I had the displeasure of being driven out there recently. It crawls along while bikes and even pedestrians at times waltz by at a good pace.

An awful lot of these cyclists spend money in a lot of the local cafes too so they'd want to be careful what they wish for

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morana Registered User
#12

Coming from sutton cross, if you want you can swing right at the bottom and go up thru st fintans estate go a few hundred metres and left up to the top and avoid the main road.

If you see those 2 elephants out there tomorrow thats me and my mate!

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HivemindXX Registered User
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Weepsie said:
It's clogged up with far more cars though. I had the displeasure of being driven out there recently. It crawls along while bikes and even pedestrians at times waltz by at a good pace.


Really. It's baffling that someone would complain about cyclists when the village is choked with cars every weekend.

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Fireball XL5 Registered User
#14

Who cares how many cyclists ride in Howth or how fast or slow they are? The roads are public roads and as such open to all. Provided no laws are being broken I cannot see how anyone can have cause for complaint.

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68 lost souls Registered User
#15

Anyone up for a mass cycle up howth head at the weekend in solidarity ?

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