Just goes to show .... you can get gobsh*tes in cars and gobsh*tes on bikes!! The problems start when they come together ...
I hope you went to the guards with that video. Maybe they'd like to enforce the laws on both you and the cyclist.
MOD VOICE: Go to the Gardai with the footage, see how well it works out. Thread Closed. Also pay attention to the bike path that is there. I'd blame the council planning before anything else. If you think this thread should reopen please PM me to discuss.
MOD VOICE: I recieved a few PMs and against my own judgement I am reopening the thread but under a watchful eye. Read the forum charter before posting, it may be Friday but I have been up since 3am and I don't have time for BS, breach of the forum charter will result in swift banning.
I can't think of anyway this ends well but the first person to generalise cyclists, motorists or any group that have nothing in common bar their mode of transport will get a Permaban. You can criticise the individuals in the video at will, do not attempt to identify them though, this is also a Permaban.
Council: A cyclepath that seems to disappear into thin air, no clear indication of where to go. Common sense would imply that this is one of their proposed shared space plans but no signs, unfortunately until a larger number of people put manners and safety as a priority, we still have to design the place as if everyone is a moron. I am not sure I fully blame them though as the engineer may have made the error that there is a modicum of decency among most road and path users, this unfortunately is a huge leap of faith at this moment in timeGuilty of a lack of foresight
Cyclist: Technically in the wrong but the poor layout of the cyclepath and the indicative layout implying shared space, I can see how the error is made. Still should have looked left because despite how zebra crossings should be treated, in Ireland you often have to wait as a pedestrian because a few people do not stop for them. I don't know any other country you have to be as cautious at a zebra crossing. Guilty of complacency
Motorist: Speeding, not paying attention. He may be right about the cyclist breaking the rules but in no way does this excuse the really poor driving. The driver was not paying attention and driving dangerously. Blaming the cyclist for something that would have gotten him arrested and lambasted had it been a pedestrian is just making excuses. Guilty of dangerous driving, or driving without due care and attention
And the moral of the story is " 3 wrongs don't make a right "
Sorry but there is a law here. You cannot just go.straight out on the crossing, you got to ensure there is no car within 20m of the crossing. Don't see the issue with it been a cyclist using it, he/she just didn't look
Classic example of "there's a pair of them in it"!
OP: I've noticed that many drivers fail to take their foot off the accelerator when coming up to a place where they may expect hazards - junctions, pedestrian crossings, schools…
I've also noticed that many drivers who see me turning right on the bike as they're coming towards me speed up rather than slowing down.
You don't want to be the one waking up at three in the morning with someone's death replaying itself in your head…
20m I didn't see that in the SI. Don't post opinions as facts.
Yep - I'd say that a collision in this situation would probably be similar to the car/bike on the footpath court case here. There will be some proportion of liability attached to both parties.
(2) When a vehicle is approaching a zebra crossing a pedestrian shall not step on to that crossing if his action is likely to cause the driver either to brake suddenly or to swerve.
Road Traffic General Bye-Laws
Never supported the driver, I just quoted how to use a zebra crossing, something alot of people cant do in Ireland.
If a driver can't do an emergency stop he/she is obviously going too fast for that section of the road.
That's not what you said. Plus if a driver with 20metres has to suddenly brake, they're driving too fast or not paying attention
I never defended the driver. Relax
Also its more than likely a 50k speed limit, reaction and braking time in that zone is close to 30m, looking at the video he stopped with 5-8m so was probably doing 30K.
Yes he should of paid more attention, but he/she didnt expect someone to go out in front of them without checking.
We just need to be careful at zebra crossings and not just walk out on them which happens alot.