hedzball Registered User
#1

When they don't bother putting up their stock?

I mean I don't have the time during shop hours to go about ringing and ordering carts down the phone. But I have plenty of time in the evening to scope about and look around..

As it stands I'm looking to buy 2-3000 clay carts and about 2000 game carts and I would love to just go online and go about buying them that way.

Lakelands.. East coast dog and gun.. Knocknagoshel..

Fingal sports website has been " in the process" for the past shioting 5 years..

I mean why pay to host a site if you are not willing to do a decent job of it?

Half assed Irish shiote as usual..


I just want a site that tells me what they have in stock.. and lets me fecking buy it..


'hdz

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useurowname Registered User
#2

Cos they don't do the volume sales online.

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hedzball Registered User
#3

useurowname said:
Cos they don't do the volume sales online.


Why.. Whats to stop them advertising what they'll sell 1000 at instead of what they sell 250 at..

We all know through a lot of different sectors that buy in bulk and save.. Its not a secret.

There are systems out there where you scan every item in the shop and it will link to your site saying 68 available.. or 5 large in stock.. All of these options been around years and we are still so so behind. I know there is **** all to be made off carts. when I'm spending a few hundred quid I generally buy a few more bits and pieces.. the stuff they make money on.


'hdz

useurowname Registered User
#4

hedzball said:
Why.. Whats to stop them advertising what they'll sell 1000 at instead of what they sell 250 at..

We all know through a lot of different sectors that buy in bulk and save.. Its not a secret.

There are systems out there where you scan every item in the shop and it will link to your site saying 68 available.. or 5 large in stock.. All of these options been around years and we are still so so behind. I know there is **** all to be made off carts. when I'm spending a few hundred quid I generally buy a few more bits and pieces.. the stuff they make money on.


'hdz


Cos they don't do the volume sales online.size of the market,Ireland guns, ammo, accessories is small. Numbers aren't there. It's specialised retail. I haven't spent €500 on shooting equipment in the last 4 years and that applies to the 4 guys I shoot with.

DogfoxCork Registered User
#5

€500? i wish i could say ive spent €500 in the last 4 years. that isnt even a years worth supply of carts and bullets for myself or Hedz and im sure most of the other shooters on here! it doesnt really apply to the fellas who are only out a few times a year after game as their demand isnt high.

and frankly its besides the point, they should have everything listed on their websites. its not a difficult system and makes things easier for the shops too. i can think of at least 4 times off the top of my head where ive had difficulty ordering equipment online due to poor stock information

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useurowname Registered User
#6

Well go and tell them that

rhino1 Registered User
#7

It would be interesting to know how much trade goes overseas from guys buying from the like of Cabelas and English sites because the selection is so much better.

useurowname Registered User
#8

Same as everything else, a lot. The market isn't there in Ireland. Customers want variety sure but there isn't enough there for retailers to tie a whole lotta money up in stock that they won't shift. It's not that the retailers are a lazy or thick, the sums just don't add up. I accept there are people who spend a big money on the sport, but for a lot of shooters our needs are relatively low and straight forward. I do a fair amount, I haven't changed a gun for over ten years, where else does it go, ammo mostly, clothes (v little). Biggest expenditure for me is prob dog food.

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Nekarsulm Registered User
#9

hedzball said:
When they don't bother putting up their stock?
I mean why pay to host a site if you are not willing to do a decent job of it?


It's so you can find their phone number, and then ring them up.

Honestly though, if they had a half decently set up w'site, it should be easy to update with a minutes work, add any new lines or guns etc, and add photos.

One or two seem to be moving to Facebook more than the usual business web site.
Many may have no affinity or interest in internet/computer activities.

J.R. Registered User
#10

hedzball said:
When they don't bother putting up their stock?

I mean I don't have the time during shop hours to go about ringing and ordering carts down the phone. But I have plenty of time in the evening to scope about and look around..

As it stands I'm looking to buy 2-3000 clay carts and about 2000 game carts and I would love to just go online and go about buying them that way.

Lakelands.. East coast dog and gun.. Knocknagoshel..

Fingal sports website has been " in the process" for the past shioting 5 years..

I mean why pay to host a site if you are not willing to do a decent job of it?

Half assed Irish shiote as usual..


I just want a site that tells me what they have in stock.. and lets me fecking buy it..


'hdz


I have bought cartridges & bullets on-line from Sportsden in Navan.

I've found their prices reasonable & usually next day *(or day after) delivery by courier.

http://www.sportsden.ie/guns/gun-accessories/ammunition/shotgun-ammunition.html

P.S. I am not associated with Sportsden in any way ...just buy from them!

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gunny123 Registered User
#11

I dunno, Patrick Carley in Wexford, who is a one-man band afaik, has a very good website. Guns etc that are sold are taken down and new stuff put up. If he can do it easily why not bigger set-ups ?

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cavan shooter Registered User
#12

There is a lot of work keeping your Web page up to date etc. Sometimes it's not worth the time and hassel of you don't have the volume turning over.

A man walks into your shop buys x walks out....job done.

A man buys x on line for y now you have to add postage and go and post it and take the risk it gets there. It sounds great but unless your turning over the goods and have the help it's actually a PITA.

Luckysasha Registered User
#13

Most shops now seem to favour Facebook for advertising. Mourne shooting grounds have at least 40+ pics of second hand firearms over the last couple of days. I also see courtlough now have a separate Facebook page for their guns for sale. Top gun in Drogheda are also using their Facebook page to let you see what's in stock. I know recently I was toying with the idea of adding a shotgun to my collection and it ment sitting down with a bunch of dealers phone numbers and ringing around to see what stock they had.

Nekarsulm Registered User
#14

M C Grahams in Monaghan town are also using Facebook. Putting up photos of all their Auto's in the one picture, for example.

goz83 Registered User
#15

cavan shooter said:
There is a lot of work keeping your Web page up to date etc. Sometimes it's not worth the time and hassel of you don't have the volume turning over.

A man walks into your shop buys x walks out....job done.

A man buys x on line for y now you have to add postage and go and post it and take the risk it gets there. It sounds great but unless your turning over the goods and have the help it's actually a PITA.


It doesn't really take much time at all tbh. I provide my clients with external access to change photos and text on their websites. Its really easy to use and only takes a minute or less to change a couple of images.

It's a different kettle of fish if you are adding stock control systems, but it doesn't need to be that complicated. If stock is low on a certain ammo....they could just mark it as out of stock, or put a low stock notice on the item, without the expense of stock control systems.

Making registered post a standard feature is one way to deal with the worry of items not arriving. The post office is usually not far away either.

Most people return to websites they can browse and buy stuff they hadn't been looking for. Facebook just doesn't do that and in my opinion, it often cheapens a business, especially when used to post products for sale all the time. It's ideally used as a point of contact for customers and a way to promote the business with competitions and general mentions. It is not an online shop and only clutters the page.

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