carsfan2 Registered User
#91

The one thing I can never understand with these cars that are sold as 7 seaters is why do they not put 3 individual seats in the middle row or at least give this as an option instead of a bench? This car I would have thought would be wide enough to do this. I think the new Peugeot 5008 will have this which is great. The only other option is a people carrier which people increasingly don't want.

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Dozz Registered User
#92

carsfan2 said:
The one thing I can never understand with these cars that are sold as 7 seaters is why do they not put 3 individual seats in the middle row or at least give this as an option instead of a bench? This car I would have thought would be wide enough to do this. I think the new Peugeot 5008 will have this which is great. The only other option is a people carrier which people increasingly don't want.

Wide and all as the car feels it is not wide enough to accomodate 3 individual seats in the secong row.
The model i looked at had isofix fittings on the front passenger seat but i imagine thats an extra

Gwynston Registered User
#93

Oh - don't get me started on that!
I already have a mega thread going:
Good *wide* family car

I've been looking for months for any cars with three proper seats in the back to replace our S-Max.

Although the Kodiaq has a bench I'm hoping it's wide enough to fit 3 comfortably in the back, unlike many other large cars. The new 5008 does look a better prospect though...

walus Registered User
#94

The days of MPVs are numbered and so buying such new might be risky business going forward. The MPVs' features will get amalgamated within the SUV concept and packaged as such.
What Skoda is doing with the Kodiaq launch in Ireland is quite frankly shambolic. They did quite well on the build up but terribly ever since...

carsfan2 Registered User
#95

We had an s max before and replaced it when the kids were big enough not to need child seats as there is very little choice other than people carriers.
I can't imagine that new Peugeot is going to be much wider than the skoda.
I'm struggling to see the attraction of this skoda especially as I think the price will be high enough.
Volkswagen have just shown the Tiguan all space which is a 7 seater and looks a lot better (at least to me).

Gwynston Registered User
#96

carsfan2 said:
We had an s max before and replaced it when the kids were big enough not to need child seats as there is very little choice other than people carriers.


You mean you got another S-Max?
I'd be happy to do that too, but the new S-Max is expensive and I'm looking at alternatives.

carsfan2 said:
I can't imagine that new Peugeot is going to be much wider than the skoda.
I'm struggling to see the attraction of this skoda especially as I think the price will be high enough.
Volkswagen have just shown the Tiguan all space which is a 7 seater and looks a lot better (at least to me).


Pics of the 5008 show 3 individual seats in the back, so I'd say it will have more space.
And isn't the 7-seat Tiguan just a stretched version of the current model? So won't be wide enough IMO. And if you think the price of the Kodiaq will be high, I would expect the 7-seat Tiguan to be even higher!

Skoda generally offers bigger cars and more kit for lower prices than equivalent VW models, so if they follow that pattern with the Kodiaq, it should be good value.

Gwynston Registered User
#97

The Kodiaq Roadshow:

See the new KODIAQ at your local ŠKODA Dealer

The email I got informing me of the schedule says "Before its highly anticipated launch in mid-March..."

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Gwynston Registered User
#98

Sorry to post again, but I realise now from that link that the Kodiaq model pages have been updated with more info:
http://www.skoda.ie/models/kodiaq/pages/overview.aspx

I notice from the "Technology" section that the the 150ps 2.0TDI is only available as either a manual 4x4 or an auto-DSG. You can't get a manual 2WD, although that seems to be the case on the UK and Czech configurators too.

From seeing a few more pics, I've concluded why it doesn't look so good at times. Cosider the white examples - they look way less smart because of the large amount of black trim all around the bottom panels. The white stands out and makes the impression of a lot less car with an uninteresting profile. More like some of those jacked up "all road" estates.

But in the darker greys and black (try it in the 360deg visualizer) the lower panels blend in and the car has a much chunkier and attractive profile.
Anyway I'll go look at it in the flesh tomorrow in Galway and hope it's a dark coloured one.

Gwynston Registered User
#99

So I had a look at the LHD Kodiaq in Monaghans Galway.
More misinformation BTW - the salesman said it was the only one in the country, but Skoda's own roadshow page clearly shows there are 4 of them according to the dealer schedule. And he had no clue still about when prices and specs are expected, despite what R.O.R reported last week. When I suggested to him about the Paddy's weekend launch, he said, "That's the first I've heard..."

Anyway, it was a very high spec 4x4 DSG-auto with 19" wheels, leather seats and a few other things I know are likely optional on mid-range models (based on UK configurator). It looks good in the flesh and stands out - some of the photos make it appear less impressive, especially the lighter colours as I said yesterday. This one was silver and I think darker ones would look even more chunkier as they'll blend in the low level black trim. Styling is typical of other Skodas and some of the less daring VWs, so that's a matter of taste and it's down to everyone's own opinion. This car won't change that - but I personally think it's smart with clean lines.

Build quality inside is very good with lots of clever features typical of recent Skodas. Middle row leg room is not as much horizontally as a Superb, but it's still plenty and is helped in addition by the extra vertical space, which also means the transmission tunnel is less of an issue than the Superb's. 3rd row leg room is determined by the positioning of the sliding middle row, and is at least as much as in an S-Max.

The only real downer is that centre seat in the middle row bench. It really is a big compromise. I actually measured it to compare with the Superb. Overall the 3 seats (split 60/40) are 130cm wide in the Kodiaq and actually 2cm wider in the bench in the Superb! So I'd really need to sit my 3 kids in it (ages 12, 10, 7) to see if it's wide enough. Having tested a Superb last week, I was really hoping the Kodiaq would offer more space in the middle row...

And that's a possible deal breaker, as I'd definitely consider buying one if it offers a decent saving over a new S-Max. It looks from the pics of the forthcoming Peugeot 5008 with its 3 separate seats, that it might well trump the Kodiaq for space, and probably on design, style and flair too. We'll need to wait even longer for that though and to see how prices compare.

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Shefwedfan Registered User
#100

Gwynston said:
The only real downer is that centre seat in the middle row bench. It really is a big compromise. I actually measured it to compare with the Superb. Overall the 3 seats (split 60/40) are 130cm wide in the Kodiaq and actually 2cm wider in the bench in the Superb! So I'd really need to sit my 3 kids in it (ages 12, 10, 7) to see if it's wide enough. Having tested a Superb last week, I was really hoping the Kodiaq would offer more space in the middle row...

And that's a possible deal breaker, as I'd definitely consider buying one if it offers a decent saving over a new S-Max. It looks from the pics of the forthcoming Peugeot 5008 with its 3 separate seats, that it might well trump the Kodiaq for space, and probably on design, style and flair too. We'll need to wait even longer for that though and to see how prices compare.


It is funny that every dealer at the moment seems to be making the same mistake and putting in 2 and a 1/2 seats in there SUV's. I was excited about the Kodiaq and started this thread but after looking at the pics on Uk website and your review I will be leaving it where it is

I will continue to wait for the new model 5008 which looks to be the answer

Gwynston Registered User
#101

Shefwedfan said:
It is funny that every dealer at the moment seems to be making the same mistake and putting in 2 and a 1/2 seats in there SUV's. I was excited about the Kodiaq and started this thread but after looking at the pics on Uk website and your review I will be leaving it where it is


Yes, it's frustrating because the Kodiaq is big enough for 3 seats. Its exterior body is a good bit wider than the Superb, and the internal width across the front seats is also wider. But the Kodiaq is narrower across the back seats

Check out the dimension pics at the bottom of these pages:
http://www.skoda.ie/models/kodiaq/pages/technology.aspx
http://www.skoda.ie/models/new-superb-combi/technology/

And compare it to the current 5008 which has much smaller external dimensions, but the internal distance between the rear doors is 1cm wider than the Kodiaq! Not much, but they've still managed to fit 3 seats:
http://www.peugeot.ie/range/find-your-vehicle/5008/technical-information.html

ShamoBuc Registered User
#102

Shefwedfan said:
It is funny that every dealer at the moment seems to be making the same mistake and putting in 2 and a 1/2 seats in there SUV's. I was excited about the Kodiaq and started this thread but after looking at the pics on Uk website and your review I will be leaving it where it is

I will continue to wait for the new model 5008 which looks to be the answer


I am in the exact same boat. Looking to change my verso and thought the Kodiaq would have 3 , or better than 2 and 1/2 in middle row. Deal breaker really. 5008 is looking nicer as a result.

sword1 Registered User
#103

Quick google, might be wrong, Volvo xc90 1460 internal 2nd row, Skoda kodiaq 1510,can't be right from what you are saying

Oafley Jones Registered User
#104

sword1 said:
Quick google, might be wrong, Volvo xc90 1460 internal 2nd row, Skoda kodiaq 1510,can't be right from what you are saying


XC90s seats are actually really compact.

Kirk Van Houten Registered User
#105

For what its worth - Was in Laharts in Kilkenny today and was told price list would be available early Feb. LHD Kodiaq will be there next Weds and Thursday.

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