fathersymes Registered User
#1

These new budget (for Sauer & Mauser!) rifles were both launched at IWA last week and will be priced around the Sako 85 level(1,500-2,000)

What do people think, there are no reviews yet but initial reports are that the Sauer looks and feel cheap, not up to the usual standard of finish.

I would personally reckon that if one is spending money in that region, a Sako 85 is the obvious choice for build quality and out of the box accuracy.

http://us.mauser-m12.com/

http://2.sauer.de/en/weapons/s-101.html

It wasn't me! Moderator
#2

I reckon you're not wrong there! If it were in the 1200 range, either would look pretty decent (though the stock on the Sauer doesn't look remotely comfortable) but when they're that much closer to the flagship models, and as you say, in the same ballpark as the Sako? No, these should ideally be Tikka competitors, and 1500+ puts them way out of that game.

fathersymes Registered User
#3

Yes that's what I'm saying and I wouldn't have the confidence which one would have in Tikka accuracy.

It wasn't me! Moderator
#4

Even if it were as accurate, it's heavier and more expensive, and looks visibly well off the standard of the 202 in the case of the Sauer. The Mauser just looks like a slightly less finished version of the M03, which is fine and fair enough there, and might actually represent comparatively good value, but again, when you've got the Tikka there too, which will be lighter and very accurate, as well as cheaper, it's again hard to justify.

TriggerPL Registered User
#5

The mauser seems to be a no frills mo3 with out the safety system or interchangeable barrels system , but over all looks like a fine hunting rifle and def something to think about if ya were considering a sako , the 101 on the other hand seams to punching above it weight price wise you would pic up a 202 for a few quid more , that goes for the m12 too ! I think if there 1500 - 2000 and you can pic up a basic timber or syn mo3 for 2250 I'd spend the extra cash

4200fps Registered User
#6

I picked up a friends Sauer 202. Lovely rifle, slick bolt like the Tikkas and Sako's. I seen groups a different Sauer 202 done with 6.5x55 Lapua soft point and hollow point at 150 meters. 3/4 inch grouping all day which is top class. If i'd a choice i'd still stay with the Sako or Tikka. Sauer can't cycle as quick as you have to push down quite hard on the bolt to lock it into position even with no ammunition its very stiff but to pull back and forward its very smooth. Tikka and sako bolts cycle with very little effort and are very smooth too. Closest Sauer dealer to us I think is up the North at the minute. Mausers I know nothing about never took much notice on them

TriggerPL Registered User
#7

Mauser have one of the best and smoothest action in the world from a factory gun !

ejg Registered User
#8

I had a look at both rifles last weekend.
Both are built on the same new action with a few minor differences.
Mauser has a safety that can be heard from a mile. The Sauer safety is a bit quieter.
Biggest handycap is that the barrels are sweated in. If one has a duff barrel...that's it.
For that reason I would not want one even if the price were much lower.
Handling and weight was quite nice. Pity about the barrel....there's always something.
edi

TriggerPL Registered User
#9

ejg said:
I had a look at both rifles last weekend.
Both are built on the same new action with a few minor differences.
Mauser has a safety that can be heard from a mile. The Sauer safety is a bit quieter.
Biggest handycap is that the barrels are sweated in. If one has a duff barrel...that's it.
For that reason I would not want one even if the price were much lower.
Handling and weight was quite nice. Pity about the barrel....there's always something.
edi

Nice to hear from someone that has seen them

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#10

4200fps said:
Closest Sauer dealer to us I think is up the North at the minute. Mausers I know nothing about never took much notice on them

Griffin hawe in athy used to be a sauer dealer and still is as far as I know.

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#11

you must all be working for nama to be able to afford 2k rifles to drag through ditches and across hillsides just to shoot deer. half the gamekeepers inn scotland use cz/brno's and they knock more deer then all of us on here combined.

TriggerPL Registered User
#12

rowa said:
you must all be working for nama to be able to afford 2k rifles to drag through ditches and across hillsides just to shoot deer. half the gamekeepers inn scotland use cz/brno's and they knock more deer then all of us on here combined.


Ah lad where you living ! I shoot my deer from the balcony of my house that I took a 500000 mortgage out for , while I'm waiting for my Landrover to be warmed up , and breakfast to be served on a silver platter !

, were just making the case that these are ment to be competition for sako and tikka
Guns that are affordable

#13

TriggerPL said:
Ah lad where you living ! I shoot my deer from the balcony of my house that I took a 500000 mortgage out for , while I'm waiting for my Landrover to be warmed up , and breakfast to be served on a silver platter !

, were just making the case that these are ment to be competition for sako and tikka
Guns that are affordable


i were taking the mickey ,

http://youtu.be/DAtSw3daGoo

TriggerPL Registered User
#14

rowa said:


i were taking the mickey ,

http://youtu.be/DAtSw3daGoo


Haha very gud sure I know well !

Cupid__Stunt Registered User
#15

I handled both at IWA last week and was quite impressed with the Mauser, handles well and had a really nice stock and trigger. The sauer was disappointing and didn't have the same classy feel as other sauers..

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