This is utterly depressing if true. A region of half a million and hence economy of scale and they're using it to support Dublin and Cork hospitals. I wonder will our neighbours in Kilkenny and Wexford wake up and smell the coffee or do they prefer to travel 80-100 miles for cancer treatment instead of 30-40 to Waterford.
At first glance, this seems a bit of a frightener story - just like the one about taking away Waterford's city status. The Government process could be as follows:
(1) Commission a report on something, with enough scope in the Terms of Reference for the odd controversial conclusion/recommendation to appear.
(2) Leak the controversial bit.
The result is a local outcry about something that is (a) relatively minor in the national scheme of things (i.e. no interest taken by the national media), and (b) very unlikely to happen anyway.
But you get a load of local people up in arms & you give the local media something to report on. The local TD from the Government party gets to say he's not taking this lying down, requested a meeting with the relevant Minister, commissioned his own report, etc.
The end result: loads of hot harmless air, the local TD gets kudos when the controversy dies, and those that matter get on with whatever their own real agenda might be.
It looks like a mixture of kite-flying and 'Distract-divide-and-conquer'.
They flew the kite about the merger and done it anyway, would you prefer to wait and see when its done and then make up your mind that its a bad idea for the SE.
I'd be inclined to defend what we have if there were serious grounds of it being removed. Even if it wasn't decided but there was a strong possibility.
The City status thing was always total rubbish.
Say's you , based on solid evidence, or blind loyalty to the FG party?
KK do not want to be associated with WRH for what they see as the future threat of them being subsumed into the Waterford area, as they have the head office for the southeastern region and any clear thinking ( sic) government will in a time of cutbacks put the management and frontline in the same place as should have been done day one, only parochial politics took centre stage again.
the N&S are on about WRH 'under attack' this week, cancer care..not a hope etc. This issue should/will make council merger look like a non-significance
Can you clarify this statement please? The only statement to date from Paudie Coffey (FG) was that Waterford would retain its 'Historic Status'. Now he was either stating facts or it was a 'mistake'. If what he said was fact - Waterford will be a 'Historical City' like Kilkenny and Clonmel and not a City under the Local Government Act 2001 which is the law of the land.
Bumping this as its not getting the attention it deserves. If what Cullinane is saying is true, then WRH and the South East Region could be hit badly if Minister Reilly sticks by the report and implements its recommendations. Right now, he is unaware of the contents of the report and I don't believe it was setup to target WRH or the South East specifically, but Ireland as a whole. I'm not 100% on that part though as I cant find any original media link on the report being commissioned.
The response so far:
- Paudie Coffey (FG) & Maurice Cummins (FG) have both met recently on a number of occasions with Minister Reilly in relation to a report indicating the breakup of the hospital network in the South East. The report has not yet been seen by Minister Reilly.
- Meeting by all concerned in WIT tonight, whereby at the very least FG John Cummins and Maurice Cummins were present. Paudie Coffey is away in the North due to uncontrolled circumstances (family related).
And none of the TD's could make it to the meeting, IMHO this is the biggest issue facing Waterford. All that merger/ city status is just a agenda driven by councillors scared of losing their jobs.
No TD.s made the meeting and less than half our councillors. it just shows the caliber of what is representing us.
Sorry only spotting this now. I'm afraid that's playing on Paudies words a bit. My understanding from what Paudie was saying was that our City Status as a whole, would remain intact. He was backing up that statement by referring to our city as a Historical City. Which it is. Its not just any awl City but an Historical City. Its perfectly acceptable to describe Wateford as a Historical City as it currently is and he was not, unless I am mistaken, stating that we would be 'downgraded' to a type of City that Kilkenny is. I'm unaware of any definition for Clonmel in the Local Government Act.
The Local Government Act 2001 states very clearly the Cities of Ireland and this includes Waterford on its own two feet without any other requirements or 'if' statements. What people are jumping on is that it states further down the makeup of the individual type of councils in Ireland and people are now saying there is nothing there for Waterford. I can remind people that this will be modified to cater for a new type council for Waterford, Limerick, Tipperary and so on. This modification would define this new type of body and give it legal status for 2014. This modification does not effect the original piece of legislation that covers the cities of Ireland and thus the overall City Status remains unchanged.
It is factually incorrect to state Waterford will no longer be a City or will be a Historical City on the same par as Kilkenny. People are twisting the wording of the legislation and when the above is quoted to them they immediately reply with an unfounded conspiracy that Phil Hogan when updating the Local Government Act will remove Waterford from the overall list of Cities. That's daft and there is nothing to suggest he will. There was never any question in the report done by Fianna Fail or the Fine Gael government that our City Status should be looked at for removal or change in any shape or form.
Phil Hogan, according to WLR, stated Waterford will remain a City.
Anyway, I just wanted to clarify what I meant as requested. Your free to continue this discussion in the other threads about the merger but I think this topic should be kept 100% to the implications for Waterford and the South East if what Cullinane says is true!
One of our TDs, Paudie Coffey, was away on family matters in the North and was unable to attend. Knowing Paudie over the years, it was never like him to dodge a meeting and considering his colleague Maurice Cummins & John Cummins attended, you can be assured that all three Waterford Fine Gael Reps are very much aware of the implications and very much against them and will fight tooth and nail for us as they have been doing to-date.
From John Cummins himself;
A lot goes on behind the scenes. Just because transcripts of meetings are not released and because Paudie isn't shouting in the media or in the Dail doesn't mean pressure isn't being applied and representations are not going our way.
Honest question.. Where's John Deasy? I haven't heard any sort of reaction to the well publicised issues over the past months.
Cllr Mary Roche wrote a good summary of last night's meeting:
From John Halligans Facebook this morning:
I'm not involved in politics in Waterford anymore but do think it's a positive step that John is trying to work with the rest of TD's on issues of local interest. It would be very easy for him to take potshots from afar but it makes sense to try cooperate where everyone's goal is the same.