If there's blind loyalty here, its you to Ryanair.
Aer Lingus are very often cheaper than Ryanair for the same route/date combination. Ryanair haven't been a particularly cheap airline for some time.
Ryanair only sell as many seats as they do as people assume they are *always* cheaper and don't check anyone else. Irish people have a surreal Stockholm Syndrome towards Ryanair.
Very possibly, and unfortunately for the travelling public those flights will be provided by Ryanair.
There are a depressing number of really quite thick people posting in this thread, who seem to have attached a personality to Ryanair and become emotionally attached to it, rather than realising that it's a business, which will always have as its number one priority the maximisation of profit, as any business should.
Who else has ?
The key point is the high cost airlines will charge more than the low cost ones. If prices rise at the bottom of the market , they will rise at the top. London - Dublin.
To book a Ryanair flight to London today it's €247 + extras , there is one cheap flight on August 10 (25.99+ ) but they are hoping you'll be one of the 10% or so who don't fly (an extra cost of booking in advance) Beyond this there are flights for 17+
I've always said Ryanair break even on the basics and the extras are pure profit.
They have and will defend this right to gouge the punters.
The high cost airlines don't really cares since they are going after a different market segment , people who will pay extra not to use Ryanair.
Yes there may be an overlap between Ryanair and the Flag Carriers, but it's not that big and it's not worth a real fares war (yes there will be ads on both sides but nothing serious)
I didn't get that at all from his post. Anti Aer Lingus, yes, and like me he has a long memory. Aer Lingus shafted the Irish public for the first, I dunno, 50 years of their existence?
Do a couple of random comparisons using Skyscanner.ie without actually searching for instances where either airlines is cheaper.
1. Tomorrow DUB-LGW
Lufthansa €100 via Paris
Aer Lingus €188
2. 22nd Sept DUB-LGW
Aer Lingus €41
3. Tomorrow DUB-EDI
Aer Lingus €83
4. 22nd Sept DUB-EDI
Aer Lingus €46
5. 22nd Sept DUB-VNO
Aer Lingus €102
6. 23 July DUB-VNO (no flights tomorrow)
Air Baltic €192 (via VIX)
Aer Lingus €301
Six flights, short notice and two months notice.
EI cheapest on one flight.
FR cheapest on three flights.
FR cheaper than EI on five flights.
Price misalignment on one flight by FR (#6)
Price misalignment on two flights by EI (#6, #1)
Total cost if flown with FR: €604
Total cost if flown with EI: €761 (+26%)
My loyalty is to my wallet, and I would have flown FR for 1, 2, 4 and 5. IE for 3 and Air Baltic for 6.
Yet now you want to grant the same opportunity to Ryanair. I don't know what grounds you have to assume that removing competition will mean Ryanair will keep prices low. Do you think that removing Aldi, Dunne's, Lidl, Supervalu etc, would mean Tesco would still be a cheap place to shop? Doesn't make any business sense whatsoever. There are no moral values when it comes to share values.
You should read his post more clearly "believe the media has it in for Ryanair" for starters.
One of many people in this country who believe the Sainted Mick can do no wrong.
Do those SkyScanner prices include Ryanair's multitude of unavoidable extras? Or take in to account that its generally cheaper to take a bag on any other airline but them?
And the fact that Aer Lingus allow one to have more hand luggage - a bag such as a laptop bag in addition to your main carryon.
Back to the topic of Aer Lingus being sold, I and most other people in the industry would be of the strong opinion that Ryanair holding such a large amount of Aer Lingus shares at the moment is actually a deterrent to another large airline group launching a takeover offer. Once they're forced to sell their shareholding it should become clearer what future path Aer Lingus takes. Personally I think that if in 10 years they're still independent then that's not a problem. EI very successfully serves the market it's targeted at and provides a quality service for its passengers. The growth opportunities are quite limited for an airline that doesn't have growth plans like an airline like Ryanair...if they're making money then let them continue.
Easyjet would be the airline with one of the closest operating costs and they got their fingers burnt to the extent that they pulled out of Ireland. You've mentioned Lufthansa and Air France-KLM, both of which have a higher cost base, lower % revenue from ancillaries, don't have a base in Ireland and wouldn't have the same brand recognition with the Irish public.
And on top of all that, these airlines would be risking Ryanair competiting head to head with them in their own countries.
Saw that, still don't get any love for Ryanair.
Yes, all charges, including EI's €6 charge that you can't avoid even if you get a sad excuse for a debit card (like FR's).
Hmm, you might need to read my posts again. I have no grá for EI for historical reasons, but I will still fly with them if they are the cheapest.
I am a firm believer in competition (almost fanatical), but I don't believe that competition has to be in the form of EI. As I said earlier, I don't expect EI to exist much in 10 years, even if Etihad or Lufthansa buys them.
Visa Electron for EI. No idea who here issues them, but its a bit more open than a Ryanair-issued card only as FR either have or are going to require.
Let's be fair here and not blinded by hatred.
FR have a useless debit card that almost no-one would want, but none the less it exists and you can avoid the €6 charge with it.
EI require a Visa Electron which is not issued in Ireland, and therefore the €6 is totally unavoidable.
Scores for Irish customer service on this particular issue:
FR 1 out of 100
EI 0 out of 100