• Clongowes Wood (8.51%)
  • St Michael's College (14.29%)
  • Blackrock College (15.2%)
  • Belvedere College (5.78%)
  • Terenure College (21.58%)
  • St Mary's College (4.56%)
  • Castleknock College (2.74%)
  • Other (27.36%)
#226

Oldboy 92 said:
Does that mean he is ineligible to play schools cup, I assume 20s is deemed adult rugby and Connacht A definitely is! Can anyone throw some light on this, has it happened before?

Dont think he is inelgible to play schools cup as i dont see how he has been ruled out.
its_phil said:
But 20's is underage rugby??

Robbie Henshaw played Connacht 20s last year and played for Marist so that is not a problem.

20s is age grade rugby
Im fairly sure u18s/19s have to get permission from their provincial branch to play 20s
Quint2010 said:
Never write off Clongowes. They may not have the stellar names of the past 3 seasons but they are always exceptionally well trained and never let their school down when it comes to cup time.

I wouldnt write them off either.
I know this goes without saying but all the schools are exceptionally well trained and never let their school down.

Oldboy 92 Registered User
#227

its_phil said:
But 20's is underage rugby??

Robbie Henshaw played Connacht 20s last year and played for Marist so that is not a problem.

Age grade is u19 down as far as I know so it may vary from province to province, but if that player played an A game for Connacht it was an adult fixture.

#228

Oldboy 92 said:
Age grade is u19 down as far as I know so it may vary from province to province, but if that player played an A game for Connacht it was an adult fixture.

20s is age grade rugby and 21s is age grade but they do not come under the categories of youths/schools rugby

The draws for the Leinster Schools Duff and McMullen Cup competitions took place in the Leinster Rugby office in UCD on Thursday afternoon...
http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/domestic/newsroom/10504.php

Duff and McMullen Cups are the cups for the section A schools

Leinster5 Registered User
#229

Terenure have Schmidt, Brewer, Dardis, Madigan (all Leinster u18 players-Madigan from 2011) O'Neill and Clarkin(injured last year-both Leinster U19 players) plus Tom O'Brien and Conor Weakliam all back from last year. I haven't seen 'Michaels backline but would have to be a very good one to come anywhere near Terenure's one. By the sounds of things 'Michaels have a very strong pack and this is where Terenure may struggle if they face them in the cup.

Well surely Byrne for Michaels is the best 10 in the competition, was a class act last year for Michaels. Along with McCarthy and Leavy. They also have Kelleher who is almost a certainty for Academy next year. Terenure do have a very impressive back-line, but from what I've been told, Michaels are just as strong in the back-line and are supposedly much stronger in the pack.

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#230

Quint2010 said:
Terenure have Schmidt, Brewer, Dardis, Madigan (all Leinster u18 players-Madigan from 2011) O'Neill and Clarkin(injured last year-both Leinster U19 players) plus Tom O'Brien and Conor Weakliam all back from last year. I haven't seen 'Michaels backline but would have to be a very good one to come anywhere near Terenure's one. By the sounds of things 'Michaels have a very strong pack and this is where Terenure may struggle if they face them in the cup.

Well surely Byrne for Michaels is the best 10 in the competition, was a class act last year for Michaels. Along with McCarthy and Leavy. They also have Kelleher who is almost a certainty for Academy next year. Terenure do have a very impressive back-line, but from what I've been told, Michaels are just as strong in the back-line and are supposedly much stronger in the pack.



I wouldn't be too quick to say that Byrne is the best 10 going,I'd an eye each on him and McKeon from Gonzaga

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#231

Leinster5 said:
Well surely Byrne for Michaels is the best 10 in the competition, was a class act last year for Michaels. Along with McCarthy and Leavy. They also have Kelleher who is almost a certainty for Academy next year. Terenure do have a very impressive back-line, but from what I've been told, Michaels are just as strong in the back-line and are supposedly much stronger in the pack.


OK 'Michaels have a much better pack and a better backline then Terenure. I just hope 'Michaels have the same mindset as when they played Terenure in the 2010 Junior Cup Final.

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#232

Quint2010 said:
OK 'Michaels have a much better pack and a better backline then Terenure. I just hope 'Michaels have the same mindset as when they played Terenure in the 2010 Junior Cup Final.


snap

gfitz95 Registered User
#233

Well surely Byrne for Michaels is the best 10 in the competition, was a class act last year for Michaels. Along with McCarthy and Leavy. They also have Kelleher who is almost a certainty for Academy next year. Terenure do have a very impressive back-line, but from what I've been told, Michaels are just as strong in the back-line and are supposedly much stronger in the pack.

Leavy is actually a player who has gone under the radar but is an exceptional talent,plays in the outside backs,brings the same aggression levels as his brother aswell,not quite as big as Dan but no squirt either

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#234

gfitz95 said:
Well surely Byrne for Michaels is the best 10 in the competition, was a class act last year for Michaels. Along with McCarthy and Leavy. They also have Kelleher who is almost a certainty for Academy next year. Terenure do have a very impressive back-line, but from what I've been told, Michaels are just as strong in the back-line and are supposedly much stronger in the pack.


Leavy is actually a player who has gone under the radar but is an exceptional talent,plays in the outside backs,brings the same aggression levels as his brother aswell,not quite as big as Dan but no squirt either


he was injured for the interpros I'm pretty sure,other than that Id say he would've started? Yeah he's a unit all right

gfitz95 Registered User
#235

he was injured for the interpros I'm pretty sure,other than that Id say he would've started? Yeah he's a unit all right

not sure of his Leinster involvement but he started for Michaels on the wing last year for the first 3 rounds of the cup

Leinster5 Registered User
#236

Quint2010 said:
OK 'Michaels have a much better pack and a better backline then Terenure. I just hope 'Michaels have the same mindset as when they played Terenure in the 2010 Junior Cup Final.

I can't believe people still think Junior Cup rugby gives a good indication of Senior level. It's a bunch of 14/15 year old's running around. It's a completely different standard at Senior level, you get ex-pro's coaching most of the 'big' schools. I'm not an expert on this years competition, but I know enough to know that Junior Cup results mean very little 3 years later.

Quint2010 Registered User
#237

Leinster5 said:
I can't believe people still think Junior Cup rugby gives a good indication of Senior level. It's a bunch of 14/15 year old's running around. It's a completely different standard at Senior level, you get ex-pro's coaching most of the 'big' schools. I'm not an expert on this years competition, but I know enough to know that Junior Cup results mean very little 3 years later.


Well I think it was hugely relevant to last years final the fact that 'Michaels had beaten Clongowes in the Junior Cup in 2009.

TheKeenMachine Registered User
#238

Quint2010 said:
Well I think it was hugely relevant to last years final the fact that 'Michaels had beaten Clongowes in the Junior Cup in 2009.


Really? I thought Michaels lost four finals on the bounce.

Oldboy 92 Registered User
#239

Quint2010 said:
Well I think it was hugely relevant to last years final the fact that 'Michaels had beaten Clongowes in the Junior Cup in 2009.

And Clongowes won JCT in 2008 and SCT in 2011. Terenure won JCT 2009 and only beaten by 1 pt in SF last year!!! No devine right to win JCT and then SCT 3 years later but it is reasonable to say they will be contenders when SCT. The change of eligibility for 4th years will undoubtably make JCT in bigger schools stronger, but 3 years later the prsummed better players will have left school.

#240

I remember my year won the JCT and when the SCT rolled around the team looked completely different. But it might be different in schools with a smaller year group.

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