THe logical conclusion of the letter sent is that if all of the applicants can be provided with a service by the participating commercial providers (even satellite) then there will be no Scheme (from the point of view that the dept will not need to seek a service provider). In essence what they will have done is undertaken a major data collection exercise for ISPs and not have to spend any money on procuring a service provider. that's my take on it anyway.
Yes and No.
There is a difference between what was agreed with EU and what is being proposed.
1. Is it affordable ?
2. Does it meet all of the following ?
If there's no one left in the scheme then there's no state aid so the EU conditions no longer apply.
One option for applicants is to reply to DCENR saying the conditions do not include latency and VPN requirements and threaten some kind of appeal to the EU Commission.
But we know how well that worked with NBS. Three's tender response (And Eircom's rejected one*) didn't meet the spec for Broadband or the NBS spec.
(* Eircom was going to mostly use Meteor 3G/HSPA, but had priced the Satellite fill in with proper cap. Three had priced an imaginary-at-the-time satellite fill in and was cheaper. The eventually supplied Three Satellite element often doesn't meet Cap or speed requirements).
Unfortunately the NBS was never monitored properly and penalties for not meeting it secret. Also the the Dept accepted a Tender that had not had "due diligence" (the Satellite service couldn't be ready in time) and could never meet their own spec.
But even the creation of the NBS maps was a fudge. Insisting on a single vendor rather than regional ones and an single management company (as done elsewhere) killed any chance of WISPs entering. Yet they changed the spec after picking the winner to justify the selection.
Someone should be on trial for Stupidity and wasting taxpayers and EU money or for corruption. They have done this process better in Africa. The RBS is a similar con trick.
I signed my parents up for the RBS. It really is a farce that satellite providers are allowed to partake. QSat are going to say they have coverage at all 3,700 locations and therefore you either accept their offer or bugger off. There will be no tender as they will have qualified everyone out by that stage.
My parents are in Meath. The providers that have indicated that they may be able to provide service are O2, QSat and Ripplecom.
I know that there is no line of site from my parents' house to Ripplecom's transmitter and to be honest I wouldn't go near them anyway so this leaves mobile "broadband" from O2 or QSat.
What a choice!
Deputy Nicky McFadden asked the following
So, providers will be allowed at least until the end of July to offer a solution. Then there will be more verification, consent etc which ought to sufficient for the remaindermen to do the decent thing and withdraw.
There is an alternative for those with stamina, and someone has a cunning plan.
The Department's war of attrition against RBS applicants seems to be paying off. All the delays, multiple consents, low spec, high cost etc have reduced the number of applicants to just 2011 from the 5000 that applied last year.
They will now have to wait until the end of July to allow the providers a chance to offer a service. After that it's anyone's guess. Completion by 2012 is now only a target.
clohamon, are you surprised?, par for the course from these fcukwits, any official from a Government department that still believes Satellite is broadband, having been made well aware in the presence of the the then Minister, "Dialup" Dempsey, when he relaunched the then GBS on the 18th of January 2005, by some well known Boards contributors, of the unsuitability and limitations of Satellite as a broadband solution for rural Ireland, and yes, they are still there drawing the paycheque, and sees fit to pay €3,000,000 p.a. to rent a building in this day and age, should not be allowed responsibility for anything, unless under the supervision of a responsible minor, somebody definitely has to tie their shoe laces in the morning, before they venture off to work.
There is a way to solve this issue for once and for all, if Minister "Rabbitte in the headlights" could connect his brain to his ar$e.
We are in the process of rolling out 100Mb broadband to every secondary school in this fair isle, hair brain scheme no. 367,942. from said department, have a look at the displacement of these schools, what if, instead of delivering 100Mb, we delivered 200Mb, and allowed locally based Wireless ISP's to purchase the surplus 100Mb. at a competitive pricing structure, they would then be in a position to close to the rural digital divide, make sense?, to you maybe, but the Department, "you could'nt do that, if you did every child in Ireland would fail their Leaving Cert", or some such nonsense will be trotted out.
I know of one Secondary school about to be blessed with this bounty, meanwhile 400 metres as the crow flies from the school, is a business creating and sustaining real jobs, distributing Irish food products to Europe, who will have to struggle away with the embarrassment of trying to video conference with their European clients on a crappy DSL connection, but hey, they will be happy in the knowledge that their tax Euro's will be funding the schoolkids to watch Youtube at blazing speed, and said Department can be seen to be developing the famous "Knowledge Economy", whatever that is.
The final group of unserved were due to be revealed after the end of July….
….the latest is for the end of September.
The cost of the scheme is holding steady at zero.