#196

Yeah OOP1 is a big step up from Intro to programming. The dropout rates are atrocious after Christmas and again after the summer. If there's 50 in your class now you'll be looking at <20 next year and less again for third year.

Snowed under with project work at the moment, any second years here? How are your projects going?

JFlah Registered User
#197

Yeah the biggest thing I,ve noticed is attendance or lack of it, seems to be a vicious circle the more u miss the further behind you are and the more in the **** you are so you attend even less. I,m enjoying oop1 more than JBasic seems to make a little more sense to me but a serious struggle if you fall behind i,d imagine

#198

This is a long shot...

Anyone want to take part in a usability test next tuesday? Anytime between nine to eleven. It should only take ten minutes. We're just trying out some software we developed.

It's really more about performing the test than anything. It's for the Human Computer Interaction module we're currently doing.

Tea/Coffee & scones/donuts will be provided!

siblers Registered User
#199

Opinicus said:
Yeah OOP1 is a big step up from Intro to programming. The dropout rates are atrocious after Christmas and again after the summer. If there's 50 in your class now you'll be looking at <20 next year and less again for third year.

Snowed under with project work at the moment, any second years here? How are your projects going?

All I can say is thank god for the first CA being so easy, 10%in the bag and we have another CA after rag week worth 25%. If I could get 17/18% in that I'd be delighted. I really don't want to be another statistic who dropped out because of Java, just finding that the labsheets are being piled on a bit too quickly, realistaclly could do with another 3 hour lab class a week.

You should probably send out an email for your project to the computing students, seems pretty interesting. I'd go but wont be availble at that time.

JFlah Registered User
#200

Opinicus said:
This is a long shot...

Anyone want to take part in a usability test next tuesday? Anytime between nine to eleven. It should only take ten minutes. We're just trying out some software we developed.

It's really more about performing the test than anything. It's for the Human Computer Interaction module we're currently doing.

Tea/Coffee & scones/donuts will be provided!

I have some free time between 9 and 10 if it's any good to you

#201

JFlah said:
I have some free time between 9 and 10 if it's any good to you


I'll pm you later on!


siblers said:
You should probably send out an email for your project to the computing students, seems pretty interesting. I'd go but wont be availble at that time.


Good idea but I was looking at the timetables and most computing students seem to have class then, I'll chance it anyway.

lukin Registered User
#202

Former Bsc in Software Dev student here (graduated in 2007). Just wondering what the course content is like now?
When I was there it was like so:

Two year Cert in Computing


• Java basics (loops, if statements etc.)
• VB6 (same stuff as in Java)
• Web Development
• Databases
• Digital Media
• Communications
• Computer Applications
• Maths
• Systems Analysis and Design
• Java Programming
• Networks

Add on degree;

• Graphic User Interfaces
• Software Engineering
• Databases
• Networks
• Maths
• Object Oriented Programming
• Project

Final year Hons degree;

• Artificial Intelligence
• Software Component Engineering
• Digital Image Processing
• Object Oriented Databases
• Project Management
• Software Quality Management
• Project in Java
• Networks & Distributed Systems
• Work Experience


It's probably changed around a fair bit? Is there much .NET in the course now?There was very little when I was there, I actually ended up working in .NET after despite not writing a line of it in college

#203

Big thanks to JFlah who helped us out with our usability testing today. When we finally got going!

Protip: Some of the lab printers have been contracted out to the IBS print booth to refill now, takes a little bit longer to get them refilled now than when the technicians used to do it.


lukin said:
Former Bsc in Software Dev student here (graduated in 2007). Just wondering what the course content is like now?

It's probably changed around a fair bit? Is there much .NET in the course now?There was very little when I was there, I actually ended up working in .NET after despite not writing a line of it in college



Hey lukin, 3rd year SWdev student here. The majority of the course is the same.

There is a focus on OOP right from first year, through Java. A lot of the modules are probably just retitled i.e. Graphical User Interfaces => Human Computer Interaction etc.

Very little VB.net, we did our 2nd year project in it, just a simple add/amend/delete app.

.NET => we do 2 modules in 3rd year through C#.net and it's not that different from Java, although not much emphasis has really been placed on the framework really. There is a lot to take in and a lot of overhead with the tools available through VS2010/TFS, you could spend a nice bit of time just concentrating on them alone.


The course is a straight 3 year degree now followed by a one year addon for the honours. Any tips for a prospective future developer? Any advice regarding what I should maybe concentrate on learning in my own time? Feel free to pm me if you want.

JFlah Registered User
#204

Opinicus said:
Big thanks to JFlah who helped us out with our usability testing today. When we finally got going!

Protip: Some of the lab printers have been contracted out to the IBS print booth to refill now, takes a little bit longer to get them refilled now than when the technicians used to do it.


Hey lukin, 3rd year SWdev student here. The majority of the course is the same.

There is a focus on OOP right from first year, through Java. A lot of the modules are probably just retitled i.e. Graphical User Interfaces => Human Computer Interaction etc.

Very little VB.net, we did our 2nd year project in it, just a simple add/amend/delete app.

.NET => we do 2 modules in 3rd year through C#.net and it's not that different from Java, although not much emphasis has really been placed on the framework really. There is a lot to take in and a lot of overhead with the tools available through VS2010/TFS, you could spend a nice bit of time just concentrating on them alone.


The course is a straight 3 year degree now followed by a one year addon for the honours. Any tips for a prospective future developer? Any advice regarding what I should maybe concentrate on learning in my own time? Feel free to pm me if you want.

Was my pleasure , Thanks for the coffees

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lukin Registered User
#205

Opinicus said:
Big thanks to JFlah who helped us out with our usability testing today. When we finally got going!

Protip: Some of the lab printers have been contracted out to the IBS print booth to refill now, takes a little bit longer to get them refilled now than when the technicians used to do it.


Hey lukin, 3rd year SWdev student here. The majority of the course is the same.

There is a focus on OOP right from first year, through Java. A lot of the modules are probably just retitled i.e. Graphical User Interfaces => Human Computer Interaction etc.

Very little VB.net, we did our 2nd year project in it, just a simple add/amend/delete app.

.NET => we do 2 modules in 3rd year through C#.net and it's not that different from Java, although not much emphasis has really been placed on the framework really. There is a lot to take in and a lot of overhead with the tools available through VS2010/TFS, you could spend a nice bit of time just concentrating on them alone.


The course is a straight 3 year degree now followed by a one year addon for the honours. Any tips for a prospective future developer? Any advice regarding what I should maybe concentrate on learning in my own time? Feel free to pm me if you want.


Ye are doing VB.NET in second year?We did VB6, unless you meant VB6.
The app we did in second year was the same; simple add/amend/delete program.
I'm surprised the content is the same, five years is a long time in Software Dev., a lot of stuff changes. They have got rid of the work experience, pity,it's nice to have on your CV.
I could pm you some advice but you don't accept pms in your profile, if you change it I'll send you some advice. It's a good course and you are on the home straight, third year is the toughest but if you keep the head down you'll be grand and get a good degree. A good few developer jobs out there at the moment, hopefully there will be even more when you guys graduate.

#206

lukin said:
Ye are doing VB.NET in second year?We did VB6, unless you meant VB6.


It was VB.NET using VS, but we didn't get into it in any detail.



lukin said:

I'm surprised the content is the same, five years is a long time in Software Dev., a lot of stuff changes. They have got rid of the work experience, pity,it's nice to have on your CV.


The topics are probably the same but there is emphasis placed on where technologies are going/innovations as well as getting a good grounding in things that are staples. I think there is placement in the second semester of 4th year. (hopefully!)



lukin said:
I could pm you some advice but you don't accept pms in your profile, if you change it I'll send you some advice. It's a good course and you are on the home straight, third year is the toughest but if you keep the head down you'll be grand and get a good degree. A good few developer jobs out there at the moment, hopefully there will be even more when you guys graduate.



I accept PMs, just checked my settings there to be sure. I'll fire you one and you can hit reply if you want.

#207

Hey Guys,

How's the studying going for CA2 in OOP1?

Big one next week, 25% of total mark. Will be some sweat spilled in the lab

siblers Registered User
#208

Oh god, absolutley dreading it. Just want it over with to be honest. Im also dreading whatever exams we will have in Operating Systems, those algorithms for FCFS etc are so badly explained in class it's really frustrating.

#209

siblers said:
Oh god, absolutley dreading it. Just want it over with to be honest. Im also dreading whatever exams we will have in Operating Systems, those algorithms for FCFS etc are so badly explained in class it's really frustrating.


I'm dreading the validation. My biggest problem is brain block with some of the questions. Just figuring out how to approach them. Writing out in pseudocode may help.

OS is painful. It's just so painfully boring. I can't read more than 2 of the printouts before putting them away. Don't know how I'm going to study it.

siblers Registered User
#210

The labsheets in Operating Systems are awfully tedious too, couple of the questions I hadn't a clue how to answer them, the 10% they are worth will be fairly important I think, I'd be more than happy to scrape a 40% pass in that. Digital Imaging, Web Design and Computer Architecture are grand really, but then OOP and OS are pretty brutal. The next 3 weeks be fairly hellish, get through them with half decent marks and I'll be delighted.

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