Marty_Orr Registered User
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Always have loved Mk2s and would love to buy one. found this one on done deal.

Opinions and advice please. would love to fix it up and have her out driving again.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/2591328

TestTransmission Registered User
#2

I've moved this to Classic Cars, will get a better response here I would think

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carchaeologist Moderator
#3

Too many doors on that one.

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Marty_Orr Registered User
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carchaeologist said:
Too many doors on that one.


why's that? Why is the 2-door better?

carchaeologist Moderator
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Marty_Orr said:
why's that? Why is the 2-door better?

They just look better IMO, and it was the 2 door that spawned all the motorsport sucess. Still though, having said that, if you really want an Escort the 4 door is the cheaper option these days.

Marty_Orr Registered User
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carchaeologist said:
They just look better IMO, and it was the 2 door that spawned all the motorsport sucess. Still though, having said that, if you really want an Escort the 4 door is the cheaper option these days.


Yea they do. Alright fair enough, how much can i expect to pay for a 2-door of the same condition?

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Marty_Orr said:
why's that? Why is the 2-door better?


Not necessarily better, Just more sought after.

The Rally boys love the 2-door cos they were one of the great rally cars of their era.

They're still being raced in large numbers today.

Now, with Rallying, there's always a certain amount of 'casualties' every year.

Mk 2s haven't been produced for 30 odd years, so they're a finite resource.

Hence the high demand for 2-door shells.

The 4-door isn't as structurally rigid as the 2-door, so the 'Rallyists' aint too keen on them.

Hence their lower value.

So valuewise for the mk 2, it's definitaly a case of

2 doors good. 4 doors bad.

carchaeologist Moderator
#8

Im sure theres still loads of two door Escort shells in sheds around this country, just most guys wont part with them.
There is talk of new shells being produced, but i dont think they will come cheap.

ianobrien Registered User
#9

That one seems a fraction overpriced. For an extra few bob, you could buy a running sound 4 door. 1300 crossflows (which he is charging extra for) are making about 50 quid (1300GT crossflows are making a lot more) so unless the 1300 is the cars original engine, it's worth very little. Also, make sure the engines are not Cortina ones as the sumps are different. Also, it seems to be a mix & gather'um of Mexico bumpers, RS paint etc. With the pinto for sale, I'm wondering if the plan of the seller was a 4 door RS replica.

As for the 2 door against 4 door, the 2 doors are worth twice to three times the 4 door for the same trim level. It's simply down to the fact that all fast Escorts (Sport/Mexico/RS2000/RS1800) were 2 door and it's so easy to make replicas.

If you're serious, find a friend who really knows them and take them along. Escorts rust everywhere (doors, A-Pillars, wheel arches, strut tops, floors, slam panel, spare wheel well, fuel tank well etc). Mechanical parts are easy to get from the likes of Burton Power, The Escort Agency, West Wales Rally Spares etc. Certain trim items can be next to impossible to get. Chassis numbers are stamped on the Right Hand Strut top, and chassis plate decoders are available online so you can see what the car was built with (engine, axle ratio etc).

I've currently got a 1300 2 door Ghia, with the original 1300GT engine still running. It's almost original, except for a 32/36 DGV Weber instead of the original 32/34 DGV, minilight wheels and a few goodies in the engine. The purists need not worry. All original parts are in storage.

Edit - Just noticed that car has no servo or evidence of a servo. Servos were fitted to all Escorts except the bargin basement models (Popular, L & vans). Brakes will not be good compared to a modern car.....

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Marty_Orr Registered User
#10

thanks guys. learned quite a bit there. Harvest Rally was just on up here in my town so it just got me wanting one more

carchaeologist Moderator
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Marty_Orr said:
thanks guys. learned quite a bit there. Harvest Rally was just on up here in my town so it just got me wanting one more


Save the shillings and buy a nice two door, you will be better off in the long run. Just be careful as there's a lot of rubbish out there.

ianobrien Registered User
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carchaeologist said:
Just be careful as there's a lot of rubbish out there.


Rubbish - You're not half right!

I was looking at a "nice 1600 Sport" for a friend. The car started life as a 1100 popular plus (evident from the chassis plate) but the owner insisted it was a genuine Sport.

The paint was stunning, pity about half the spare wheel well coming off in my hand! There was other structural problems as well. Also, some of the trim was not correct (centre console, door cards, wrong colour needles on the clocks etc). The seller wanted 8K for the car (and still on UK plates)

Big Nasty Registered User
#13

There was a white 2 door escort up for sale on done deal a few days ago for €2950. Clean looking too! Didn't last long I can tell ya - I would say his phone was hopping!

carchaeologist Moderator
#14

Problem with many of these cars is alot of have been 'restored' by guys looking to make a handy profit. Only when you dig in will you see all the work done.

S Line Registered User
#15

In ‘Classic Ford’ recently there was a small article about somebody who converted a mk2 from 4 to 2 doors. It think it was in the Far East and the author suggested that perhaps that in the UK doing the same would be unnecessary due to cost and availability of 2 doors.


Now I’m not trying to say that Rally fabrication is easy and I hope I’m not over simplifying here but surely if you are going to seam weld, fit a bigger transmission tunnel, four link the rear end, fit bubble arches, weld in a role cage etc... That the idea of moving back the b-pillars and modifying the quarter panels to fit the 2-door doors is hardly light years away in terms of fabrication skills???

Now for the amateur enthusiast a two door conversion is out of the question but surely the big boys in rally preparation shouldn’t really be afraid of converting them and hence ease the pressure on supply of 2 doors

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