conbue Registered User
#1

hey, we are after purchasing a Stanley Reginald stove with a 18kw back boiler. we plan to install it in an existing fire place. our house has 17 radiators and is 1600 sq ft approx.

we had a back boiler in the fireplace before and it did not heat water or radiators. the fire place is 25ft away from the cylinder.

we have had 3 plumbers out to price/advise on the job and all have advised on different methods of plumbing it.

we are now unsure as to whether the stove will be any good and heat the radiators or not and are considering just installing a room heating stove.

Any advice or past experiences much appreciated

Stove Fan Registered User
#2

conbue said:
hey, we are after purchasing a Stanley Reginald stove with a 18kw back boiler. we plan to install it in an existing fire place. our house has 17 radiators and is 1600 sq ft approx.

we had a back boiler in the fireplace before and it did not heat water or radiators. the fire place is 25ft away from the cylinder.

we have had 3 plumbers out to price/advise on the job and all have advised on different methods of plumbing it.

we are now unsure as to whether the stove will be any good and heat the radiators or not and are considering just installing a room heating stove.

Any advice or past experiences much appreciated


Hi If the stove boiler is sized to meet or ideally exceed the heat load then yes it will heat everything fine so long as it's plumbed correctly.

I presume the plumbers advised on the boiler output required to heat your house?
They are plumbed with 1 inch pipes to the hot water cylinder. This is above the stove, so as to get gravity circulation. Ie no pump needed for the hot water side. Our cylinder is 25 feet away from the stove in the loft. It works perfectly. You then use the other 2 pipe outlets (tappings) on the stove to run to the rads. Usually in 3/4 or 1 inch pipe if a very large system. The rad circuit is pumped.

The stove must be installed to an open vented system, ie cold water tank feeding the rads.
A heat leak rad should be installed on the system on large boiler stoves to manufacturers instructions.

The boiler on the reginald is 15kw. If the plumbers advised that your rad output total and hot water requirements were less than 15kw then this stove should heat everything

We have a medium villager Berkley integral boiler stove 7.6kw boiler heating our home. 5 rads and hot water. It works great and we have no oil or gas boiler. We spent 750 euro on coal over 7 months.

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mick4439 Registered User
#3

My daughter fitted one heats house no problem but smoke that comes out the door when you go to refuel is a real put off ,i know 3 other people that have same problem all stanley will say that it was fitted wrong even though there was a stanley erin there for 20 yrs no problem ,so dont rush into buying one look into other makes.

bultaco Registered User
#4

Hi Conbue,

Did you install the stanley Reginald ?

Just wondering if it uses a closed system i.e. without the tank in the attic.

Also were you happy with it ?

thanks in advance for any info you might have

ben9195 Registered User
#5

You will only get from any stove what you put in to it. Briquettes and turf on their own will not heat the room or rads very well but for best results use lots of coal. When using the former I switch off the rads in rooms that are not in use. I have no smoke problem when I open the door. Dry logs and coal mix is not not quite as good as coal or nuggets.

gdavis Registered User
#6

my biggest piece of advise would be to make sure the 4 connections are used and cross piped.some installers like to cut corners/time and only use 2 connections and it will not function properly

killabban182 Registered User
#7

gdavis said:
my biggest piece of advise would be to make sure the 4 connections are used and cross piped.some installers like to cut corners/time and only use 2 connections and it will not function properly


Could you explain what cross piped is as I'm going down this road and with such a big outlay i want to get it right first time.

gdavis Registered User
#8

the flow and return from each circuit should be taken from opposite sides of stove.i.e the flow on the gravity side should be diagnal to the return and same with pumped circuit,as opposed to them piped one above the other.so the pumped flow should be above gravity return and gravity flow should be above pumped return if u get me

killabban182 Registered User
#9

Thanks I kind of understand, my plumber is a mate so if I tell him this I'm sure he will understand, thanks again

ben9195 Registered User
#10

Your plumber will understand

hollyandtobers Registered User
#11

mick4439 said:
My daughter fitted one heats house no problem but smoke that comes out the door when you go to refuel is a real put off ,i know 3 other people that have same problem all stanley will say that it was fitted wrong even though there was a stanley erin there for 20 yrs no problem ,so dont rush into buying one look into other makes.

This seems a problem with this stove it seems to be something to do with the baffle plate on the top. I decided to fit an olymberyl aidan enamel and its working brilliant and i saved myself 500e into the bargain.

Lorraine1974 Registered User
#12

Hi, To highjack this post if I may :-)

We have recently installed the little sister of the Stanley reginald, the Stanley Lismore with back boiler. We have 3 zones in our heating system which also runs oil. zone 1 is down stairs, Zone 2 upstairs, Zone 3 water. Zone 1 can only run on oil. Zones 2 & 3 run on oil and from the stove, if we have the stove running we have to have Zones 2 & 3 switched off for oil. There is 2 large double rads, 1 medium single rad and 1 small double rad running on Zone 2 (oil & Stove). we have had a couple of teething problems with the chinmey re-draft and leaks as it's a new build but now that they have been rectified what we are finding is that after about 2 hours we hear the water boiling in the pipes coming from the stove and in the rads. The water would scauld you if you run the taps on and you can't put your hand on the rads. Not a bad compliant, great heat and lots of hot ware, but we are wondering if this is going to do damage to our system and how can we stop this from happening? We are not lighting big fires. Last night we ran the hot water tap to release some water and opened the door of the stove to let as must heat out into the room as possible and by doing this, this actually stopped the water bubbling in the pipes.

Initially we wanted the full house done from the stove and to be able to switch all rads between the oil and stove however that didn't happen between one thing and another which hindsight is a great thing we should have pushed more on this with our contractor.

In zone 1 (downstairs) we have 4 large double rads, 1 small double rad and a towel rail.

We are assuming that the reason why the water is boiling in the pipes/rads is because the hot water has no where to go i.e. we have too little rads on the system.

Would it be possible to add 1 large double rad and 1 towel rail currently on zone 1 - which is downstairs and can only be heated with oil onto Zone 2?

I got one suggestion but I don't know how valid or safe this suggestion is, which is to turn on zone 1 for oil but switch off the oil burner and because the valves were open on this zone the hot water should flow into Zone 1.

Any suggestions as to what we could do?

richie413 Registered User
#13

Hi
I have a stanley Reginald and I burn anthracite in it as it seems the best fuel to use but I was wondering how others use theirs and what they burn in it? I was also wondering how much coal/anthracite they put into the stove each time. I light it when I get home from work so in general I would want the stove lit for approx 4-5 hours in the evening. What is working best for other people and how are they getting the most from it, either if its for just burning at night for 4/5 hours like I do, over night or all day? Any advice most appreciated...
Thanks

davelyn Registered User
#14

Don't buy a Reginald The door is too big and it smokes like hell when it is opened to re-fuel Even bought a motorized cowl (at great expense) to create more draw but it still manages to smoke, it will destroy you house with a layer of soot. I'd get rid of it only it cost so much to buy in the first place.

therealmccoy Registered User
#15

davelyn said:
Don't buy a Reginald The door is too big and it smokes like hell when it is opened to re-fuel Even bought a motorized cowl (at great expense) to create more draw but it still manages to smoke, it will destroy you house with a layer of soot. I'd get rid of it only it cost so much to buy in the first place.


I'd say the problems you're experiencing are far more likely from your chimney than the stove.

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