technodub Registered User
#16

mike12 said:
Hi,
So you have to take 3 trips to Tipp or stay overnight to play your 3 rounds to get your handicap that would be 150/60 quid, if you want to play many opens what is that 20/30 say 25 at a 20 quid each thats 500 quid plus green fees you are up over 800 quid. You will get membership in a few clubs around Dublin for that. If you joined a club you could play as much golf as you like for that.
Mike


Dont know were ur getting 160? Il stay overnight in tipp in a b&b maybe 40 e 20 e for petrol thats 60!All the money i will spend will be in small amounts at different times as i dont have the money to join somewere straight up and Personally id rather spend the money playing opens in different courses then playing one course all the time! The 800e you mentioned will get u membership to a fairly shabby golf course which doesnt interest me believe me iv done my homework! Even at that i dont have the 800 payment or even enough to pay half up front!Each to the own!

#17

jedwardreally said:
Maybe I am grumpy but I get really brassed off with this long distance handicap lark. When a lot of people have inaccurate handicaps donated by clubs they never play it puts the whole idea of handicapping into disrepute and is completely against the spirit of the game. I suggest you join the excellent Corballis links. Play frequently and you will have a lot more enjoyment for your buck than posting cheques to Tipperary!


agreed
this argument has been done over and over again
i am a country member
playing off 5
i wish i had the cash to join a club so i could play at least once a week and if i got my 1 or 2 .1's at least i would know i'm playing off an accurate hcp
as it is i play about 2 times a month,beleive me this idea of country hcp minders being bandits is bull...........look at the results in the captain's prize in the paper during the summer of all those normal golf cliubs and look at the mad scores comimg in.............talk about babdits
it's great though as those bandits are the one's giving out about country memberships
they serve a purpose and provide revenue,for eg i'm playing in Powerscourt this week,€45 a bit steep me thinks but if i didn't have my gui i wouldn't be playing

brick tamland Registered User
#18

technodub said:
Just today i sent off 80e for membership to slievnamon in tipp til the end of the year! I cant afford to join a golf club at the moment deffo not in dublin but plan to play in may opens and send my cards back as i wont to keep my handicap updated!



e80 til the end of the year? Did you have to negotiate for that or is that the going rate?

golfwallah Registered User
#19

As the man said, “you pays your money and you takes your choice”. It all depends on what you want, how often you play and how you want to dole out your money.
Aside from personalised “slagging” matches between the Full and Country membership camps, let’s look at some of the most pertinent facts:
Assuming annual Membership = €1,200 (Full) and €180 (Country), costs are roughly the same if you play about 35 comps/rounds/year. More than 35 times a year – Full membership starts to become cheaper. Easy payment plans can help spread cost over the year.
Aside from cost factors and a wish to play at lots of different courses, membership of a local club in Dublin / Cork offers certain advantages, including:
• Location of the golf course is a huge factor in determining how often you play. The closer the golf course, the easier to get there, practice, improve your game.
• You have priority tee time access – subject to slot availability on club timesheet system, e.g. certain times may be restricted to competitions, booked before you by other members, etc.
• Easier to get out and play when you want than having to ring around for green fee slots.
• Discounts on buggies / guest green fees / practice balls.
• Member only tee times / competitions.
• Almost unlimited use of clubhouse, locker room and practice facilities
• Opportunity to meet, play golf with and get to know other members
• You feel you are part of a club – opportunities to socialise, social events, member competitions / leagues / have a say in running the club.
Whether you opt for full, 5 day, country or any other form of membership:
• Find a club that fits your lifestyle, where you will feel both comfortable and welcome, with friendly staff and a friendly atmosphere.
• Find a course to fit your skill levels - challenging but not so much that you will become frustrated.
• Being a member at a club you will want to play a lot more.
• Before becoming a golf course member, "shop around", each club will have its own particular feel and membership costs.

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jedwardreally Registered User
#20

I think that in the States you have to enter every golf score for every round of golf. This is then divided by the rated difficulty of the course(Slope?) to create a moving handicap. The issue with bandit handicaps is really one of having a system which is
A Not responsive to the now huge differences in Golf courses in Ireland
B Requires only Three cards
C Excludes most rounds of golf.

I haven't golfed in the states. Does anyone on the Board have any experience of the American system?

f22 Registered User
#21

The American system as you said includes all golf, including casual rounds so you can have huge discrepencies in handicap during the year depending on form and home/away play.

Just like here you will have several false handicaps, players that purely play at home, say to a handicap of 5, away from home that could be realistically a 9 to 12.

I have played quite a bit over there and can honestly say there is around a 4 shot difference between a GUI and GHIN handicap. While playing off 5 I played a couple of scratch handicappers several times that would struggle to play off 4 or 5 here (that's not to say there aren't alot of legitimate scratch playeres there too).

At the top end of the scale a +2 or +3 handicapper here would realistically be +4 to +5 there. They have a ton of + college players who are seriously good though.

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downthemiddle Registered User
#22

Associate membership is available in Blessington Lakes Golf Club for 150 euro if you already have a GUI handicap or 175 euro for those seeking a handicap. This membership runs to February 29th 2012.

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charlieIRL Moderator
#23

could someone explain country memebership please?

PhilipMarlowe Oh Well, Okay
#24

Country is where you already have a home membership at a club where you live and you get a 'country' membership at another club that is a chunk of distance away from you, somewhere that you obviously have some connection with or spend some time there.

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charlieIRL Moderator
#25

cheers for that Licksy.

technodub Registered User
#26

brick tamland said:
e80 til the end of the year? Did you have to negotiate for that or is that the going rate?


On the website it says 180 but i rang them and they said at the mo there doing it for 160 full year 80 half! Jus download the form off there website and send 80 in the post!

Milkers Registered User
#27

jedwardreally said:
I think that in the States you have to enter every golf score for every round of golf. This is then divided by the rated difficulty of the course(Slope?) to create a moving handicap. The issue with bandit handicaps is really one of having a system which is
A Not responsive to the now huge differences in Golf courses in Ireland
B Requires only Three cards
C Excludes most rounds of golf.

I haven't golfed in the states. Does anyone on the Board have any experience of the American system?


The biggest difference with the American system is that they average your best 10 of last 20 submitted rounds. This is why a GUI handicap is conservatively 2-3 shots tougher/better than the U.S. equivalent. They think your index should represent your best golf; here it is your average.

dk00 Registered User
#28

Does anybody know the membership rate for templemore golf course in Tipp?

f22 Registered User
#29

dk00 said:
Does anybody know the membership rate for templemore golf course in Tipp?


I'm sure they could tell you directly if you phoned them, it's good to talk!

dk00 Registered User
#30

Sorry but I cant use a phone as I have a hearing problem and is why I using this post, they don't have a web site so cant find email for them.

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