adser53 Registered User
#16

I've nothing really to add this as everyone has covered my opinion. Donedeal is full of bad breeders and puppy farmers BUT for every 3 or 4 of them, theres a good breeder. I've gotten dogs of it before but it took a long time to root out the bad eggs and find the good ones. It's a great resource for experienced dog owners/buyers but for the newbie, it can be a minefield that may eventually cost them thousands in vet bills and ultimately lead to heartache.
They should really have a FAQ for potential owners on the first page, as another poster here already said.
What annoys me more than the puppy farmers is actually the owners that want to get rid of an older dog cos they havnt got the space etc but are looking for huge sums of money. If, god forbid, I ever had to get rid of my dogs they'd be free to good homes and I'd be VERY picky. Or worse again, the people who advertise the likes of "9 month old akita for sale. Great dog but i havnt got the time for him/her. Will swap for xbox360" I'm not exaggerating, thats an actual ad I reported a while back and there are always more swaps coming up. Some times swapping dogs for different breeds. Sorry, rant over

scudzilla Registered User
#17

When we were looking for our boxer we did look at donedeal, there was 1 ad that stood out, no pictures, very vague description etc, just 6 boxer pups for sale with papers.

To this day i honestly don't know why my wife phoned up, she spoke to a lady from Meath who hadn't a clue about putting pictures in an ad, they had both mother and father at the house and were true Boxer lovers.

They even wanted to vet all prospective owners.

We went to have a look, lovely house and family, well cared for dogs, KC registered.

They also insisted, that if AT ANY TIME, we were unable to look after the pup then we had to return it to them.

Best call we ever made

Deeanimallover Registered User
#18

I have never bought a dog and never will (rescues all the way for me ) but I have heard of so many horror stories from people who have bought off done deal or buy & sell etc. Being sold pups that are only 4/5 weeks old, pup really sick, spend €100's in the vets (on top of the €€€ that they paid for the pup in the first place) only for the pup to die. I also cant get over people charging hundreds for "mixed breeds" just coz they are a fancy mix of 2 different purebreeds

I would spot a dodgey ad/breeder a mile away but unfortuantly majority of people cant. Like the poster who said they think the breeder is "sound" by meeting them half way with the pup! Eh he's not being sound he's being clever as he probably doesnt want you seeing the mother dog, home etc

OP you sound very responsible though - do you advertise on any of the animal websites?

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00112984 Registered User
#19

I think buyers have to take a lot more responsibility. Whereever they're buying from, there's a risk- whether that's from Done Deal, Buy and Sell, an ad in the local pet shop or through an IKC recommendation.

A simple Google search will give anyone hundreds of tips as to what to look for in a reputable breeder.

Just turning around and saying "I'm not happy, it's Done Deal's fault" is a cop-out.

Deeanimallover Registered User
#20

00112984 said:
I think buyers have to take a lot more responsibility. Whereever they're buying from, there's a risk- whether that's from Done Deal, Buy and Sell, an ad in the local pet shop or through an IKC recommendation.

A simple Google search will give anyone hundreds of tips as to what to look for in a reputable breeder.

Just turning around and saying "I'm not happy, it's Done Deal's fault" is a cop-out.


I havent come across anyone who has actually blamed the website! I totally agree with you though that potential buyers need to really put a lot of effort into researching the breeder etc. The amount of people Ive come across that have bought pups at less than 8 weeks and are shocked when they realise the pups should be with the mother till at least 8 weeks, even though these would be people that will tell you they had dogs all their lives etc but its amazing how little some of them know

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dahat Registered User
#21

Deeanimallover said:
but I have heard of so many horror stories from people who have bought off done deal or buy & sell etc. Being sold pups that are only 4/5 weeks old, pup really sick,


people who buy 4/5 week old pups are just irresponsible

liger Registered User
#22

TooManyDogs said:

There's nothing wrong with buying a dog from donedeal but I think it would help its own reputation hugely if it had a 'buyers guide' type article on the 'dog' page with tips to help inexperienced people determine the good breeders from the bad ones


It has a Link to Wiki dog breeds, a very small guide/ a paragraph to getting a dog and its guide to puppy farms on the every advert page.

They are also very quick to respond to reports of dodgy ads. I reported the ad below and it was gone within the hour. Although i have seen people advertising they'll hold dogs till Dec 24th which breaks their Strict rules.

sligopark Banned
#23

adrenalinjunkie said:
I have never bought or sold a dog on donedeal, however it is the only countrywide resource for buying and selling horses.


have you come across this site?


http://www.equineworld.ie/

sligopark Banned
#24

went onto donedeal.ie alot looking for a pup and came across some nasty stuff at times and ads that looked weak with pups in baskets etc - put the word out with friends and then got a terrier pup just now from a friend of a friend who asked me alot before giving up a pup (because I fancied the only bitch pup he had he wanted to make sure I would spay it at 6 months) - to be honest I felt more assured leaving him (especially as he told me to call him any time in case I had questions and to let me know if the pup had problems) - this is the sort of fella you would want to be purchasing a pup from ...

TooManyDogs Registered User
#25

liger said:
It has a Link to Wiki dog breeds, a very small guide/ a paragraph to getting a dog and its guide to puppy farms on the every advert page.

They are also very quick to respond to reports of dodgy ads. I reported the ad below and it was gone within the hour. Although i have seen people advertising they'll hold dogs till Dec 24th which breaks their Strict rules.



That's good, hadn't noticed this before, probably because the note is so small! It'd be better if it was designed to be more noticable

thebullkf Registered User
#26

adrenalinjunkie said:
I have never bought or sold a dog on donedeal, however it is the only countrywide resource for buying and selling horses. I bought my own horse from the site, I paid less than quarter of the asking price as she was not at all what the current owners said she was. I had 3 visits of over 4 hours each assessing this horse, she had a saddle which did not fit at all, it was impossible to tell what her temprament was because she was completely dosed up on oats, was fat and unhealthy, had the worst farriery work I have ever seen in my life to the point where she wasn't physically able to canter so did proper vertical bucks instead, was being yanked in the mouth and had a wolf tooth that had gone unnoticed, was living in a central heated garage on a concrete floor with no bed. She was completely spoiled and ruined by the owners who were completely ignorant, hadn't a clue and had advertised her as a show-jumping prospect suitable for an adult beginner or a child. They had changed the ad 3 times and it was near where I lived at the time and went out of curiousity. Now I knew exactly what I was getting into but those people could well have been responsible for the death of 'an adult beginner or a child'. Hope this answers your origional question to some extent.



who's to blame?


if i were buying a horse,you'd better believe i'd have me homework done first.

TigerTim Registered User
#27

I check the dogs on DoneDeal every day & am constantly amazed at the prices charged for what I call Mongrels with "makey-up" names but which are considered by some to be designer breeds. Do people actually give between 200 & 400 Euro for these dogs. By the way slightly off-topic, it's a great site for selling cars/camper/machinery.

T.

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#28

Got my little boy from Done Deal. Very nice lady who let us see the parents, and the set-up she had. Dog was vaccinated, vet-checked and we got a bag of food with him too. Unfortunately, he has no papers, but as he's a pet not worried, although for personal reasons we'd like a pup from him before he's sorted.

Got another dog for a family member from Done Deal too. Although this dog is IKC, again no problems.

I guess it's a case of Buyer Beware. You woudn't buy a car without viewing it or doing research. Neither would you buy a house that way. So with something as important as a new family member, then you would do your research...

andreac Registered User
#29

ABajaninCork said:
Got my little boy from Done Deal. Very nice lady who let us see the parents, and the set-up she had. Dog was vaccinated, vet-checked and we got a bag of food with him too. Unfortunately, he has no papers, but as he's a pet not worried, although for personal reasons we'd like a pup from him before he's sorted.Got another dog for a family member from Done Deal too. Although this dog is IKC, again no problems.

I guess it's a case of Buyer Beware. You woudn't buy a car without viewing it or doing research. Neither would you buy a house that way. So with something as important as a new family member, then you would do your research...


You should not breed from this dog as he has no papers. Did his parents have papers? The reason you should not breed from him is because he has no pedigree that can be traced if he isnt registered so for all you know he could be mating with close relations.
Also, as a male dog, you will find it very hard to find anyone who will want to use your dog for stud as hi isnt registered and then obviously the pups cannot be registered either.

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Cherry Blossom Moderator
#30

sligopark said:
have you come across this site?

http://www.equineworld.ie/


I have, haven't looked at it in a while, it looks a bit different from it used to. After the first page the ad's are over 1 month old as well so still not much 'traffic' on it.

thebullkf said:
who's to blame?


if i were buying a horse,you'd better believe i'd have me homework done first.


I'm well aware it's buyer beware but these people really should have known better, the daughter being a fairly accomplished rider and selling because she couldn't handle this horse. I asked if I could see someone ride her, they refused! They also refused my request to take her on trial. The world of horses really is a minefield and they had this ad written in such a manner to attract a certain type of buyer. The ad was changed from very green to a little green but quiet and would suit a lady to a lovely quiet horse suitable for an adult beginner or a child, basically because they were getting no interest.
An awful lot of people in the market for a horse are the unknowledgeable parents of a teenager who has weekly lessons or whatever. No amount of homework is a subsititute for the fact that someone has to actually sit on the horse to determine if it's suitable or not. Riding instructors are also very reluctant to get involved in the process and I can't really blame them for this as they'd be putting themselves at risk if they make a mistake or if something goes wrong.

As for me personally, I prefer to pick a horse up out of the dirt and try to make something of it so a more accurate description and appropriate price tag would have caught my attention straight away

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