King Kelly Registered User
#1

This week's local papers have the listings of CPO's for the New Ross bypass so some relief in prospect at the bridge in town.

Are their any images of the new river crossing available? I'm told it will be the highest bridge in Ireland. True? Where it's due to join the Waterford road at Glenmore is certainly a high point.

fricatus Registered User
#2

Great news that this is on the move. The section of the N25 from the Kilmeaden side of Waterford to the Ballynaboola side of New Ross is easily one of the slowest stretches of national road in the country, because for through traffic, Waterford and New Ross are awful bottlenecks.

I heard that the bridge at New Ross was going to be the longest in Ireland, though you might be right about it being the highest too. The one being built in Waterford at the moment is going to be the longest when it opens, but only until the New Ross one itself opens.

The Waterford bypass is going to be a dual carriageway, and might be reclassed as motorway even before it's finished. Any idea if the New Ross bypass will be designed to the same standard?

The NRA website mentions also a Waterford-Glenmore scheme, which will link the New Ross and Waterford bypasses. Given the standard of the current road, I'd expect that any upgrade will be to DC or motorway standard. There's also a retrofit of the Kilmacthomas bypass happening, which will make it a DC.

Great news for the SW Wexford/South KK/East Waterford areas after so many years of neglect on the roads front. Only downside is the toll on the new Suir bridge, and no doubt another on the New Ross one...

King Kelly Registered User
#3

Longest would make sense as the point where it crosses (The Pink Rock) is quite a wide stretch of river combined with a wide marshey soft riverbank. I presume the vertical height is to allow access to New Ross port which is still used. It is also the home port of the Dunbrody tall ship which also has to navigate this stretch of the river.

There is no mention DC or otherwise in the newspaper notices. The bypass is 13.6 km long and will start from the Enniscorthy (N30 ) road and cross the Wexford (N25) road. There is no indication of what type of junction this might be.

Is there any precedent for two tolls in such close proximity? The Waterford and New Ross river crossings must be only 15km apart.

Bards Registered User
#4

fricatus said:
Great news that this is on the move. The section of the N25 from the Kilmeaden side of Waterford to the Ballynaboola side of New Ross is easily one of the slowest stretches of national road in the country, because for through traffic, Waterford and New Ross are awful bottlenecks.

I heard that the bridge at New Ross was going to be the longest in Ireland, though you might be right about it being the highest too. The one being built in Waterford at the moment is going to be the longest when it opens, but only until the New Ross one itself opens.

The Waterford bypass is going to be a dual carriageway, and might be reclassed as motorway even before it's finished. Any idea if the New Ross bypass will be designed to the same standard?

The NRA website mentions also a Waterford-Glenmore scheme, which will link the New Ross and Waterford bypasses. Given the standard of the current road, I'd expect that any upgrade will be to DC or motorway standard. There's also a retrofit of the Kilmacthomas bypass happening, which will make it a DC.

Great news for the SW Wexford/South KK/East Waterford areas after so many years of neglect on the roads front. Only downside is the toll on the new Suir bridge, and no doubt another on the New Ross one...


as far as I am aware this is being built with fuding from the Irish Exchequer and not by way of PPP,therefore no toll will be placed as the N25 will have one at Waterford

spacetweek Moderator
#5

There won't be a toll on the NR bypass. Although it doesn't mention the road standard in the NRA info, a dual carriageway was mentioned in a press release from them (sorry no link).

Just thinking aloud but I wonder if you could upgrade both the N25 and N30 between New Ross and the N11 by building one new road from New Ross to Oilgate. Saves you building 2 duallers.

fricatus Registered User
#6

Some indicative images from the KK People Weekender on this site:

http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=24&pos=0

Bards Registered User
#7

fricatus said:
Some indicative images from the KK People Weekender on this site:

http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=24&pos=0


looks similiar in design to the Millau viaduct (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millau_Viaduct) in France in that the stays are in the middle of the road as opposed to the side aka Boyne & Suir Bridges

King Kelly Registered User
#8

fricatus said:
Some indicative images from the KK People Weekender on this site:

http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=24&pos=0


This looks like a stunning piece of engineering. Another tourist attraction for the South East!

Unfortunately it looks like the both the Waterford and New Ross bypasses will be complete several years before the Enniscorthy bypass is even started. At present Enniscorthy suffers from major congestion as N11 traffic crosses the two river bridges in the town centre which form part of a one way circular route to disperse N11 traffic north and southbound,N30 traffic to New Ross/Kilkenny and the usual local traffic. The completion of the Gorey bypass seems to have shifted some of that congestion further south. Peak delays can be up to an hour southbound on a Friday or Bank holiday weekend.

The proposed by pass was to start about 3miles north of Enniscorthy at Scarawalsh with a roundabout sending N11 south bound traffic east of Enniscorthy to rejoin existing N11 at Edermine about 4 miles south of Enniscorthy. A second road would run to the west of the town to meet the N30 New Ross road at Jamestown 4 miles west of Enniscorthy with a further spur to the N80 Carlow road. (NRA)

The original plan was for completion winter 2007!

After several years of inaction the plan has gone back to the drawing board with a proposel to to bring the road further west of Enniscorthy to rejoin the N11 south of Oilgate village. This will send the start date even further out.

It seems Euroroute 1 is falling by the wayside.

#9

I can't find those pix of the Sabre site! Looking at the PDFs for the bypass its much longer than I had realised, the junction on the Waterford side will be just north of Glenmore.

Miek.

Dilbert75 Registered User
#10

Take a look here for the road layout maps, both of the Waterford and Enniscorthy sides of the bypass. Badly needed, but I also found last Friday that Enniscorthy is now under big pressure too - traffic was backed up on the Dublin to the roundabout at the Mini garage, couldn't believe it.

Alesi27 Registered User
#11

I remember the New Ross Echo had an article about the new bridge as a lead front story about a year ago and it carried an artist's impression of what it will look like. You might be able to get in through the archives on the paper's website or if not contact the New Ross Echo office in the town.

#12

Dilbert75 said:
I also found last Friday that Enniscorthy is now under big pressure too - traffic was backed up on the Dublin to the roundabout at the Mini garage, couldn't believe it.


And I bet everyone inched thier way along the main N11 to the bridge, rather than swing a right at the roundabout and head towards the New Ross road then cut back along the river and come out at the SuperValue carpark exit.

Mike.

zaraba No man is a River Island
#13

mike65 said:
And I bet everyone inched thier way along the main N11 to the bridge, rather than swing a right at the roundabout and head towards the New Ross road then cut back along the river and come out at the SuperValue carpark exit.

Mike.

I've been caught in that a few times.

Mike, I don't know waterford that well (despite having lived in Wexford for all of 12 years or so) but can you swing a right on that roundabout, drive up the back of Enniscorthy and then link up with the Clonroche / New Ross Road?

#14

zaraba said:
I've been caught in that a few times.

Mike, I don't know waterford that well (despite having lived in Wexford for all of 12 years or so) but can you swing a right on that roundabout, drive up the back of Enniscorthy and then link up with the Clonroche / New Ross Road?


You mean Enniscorthy no?

If so clicky

Mike.

King Kelly Registered User
#15

zaraba said:
I've been caught in that a few times.

Mike, I don't know waterford that well (despite having lived in Wexford for all of 12 years or so) but can you swing a right on that roundabout, drive up the back of Enniscorthy and then link up with the Clonroche / New Ross Road?


Fairly straightforward to get to the New Ross/Waterford road from N11 at Enniscorthy. Take 3rd exit at Dublin Road Roundabout (direction Kiltealy). Straight at next crossroads (mini roundabout). Take 2 right (at school raised Zebra crossing). At top of this road take left turn then immediate right and right again at next T junction at end of street. Follow this road out of town for about 3km and it will join the the N30 New Ross road about 5km west of Enniscorthy.

Its not as complicated as I've made it sound! Its a regular rat run for Waterford or Kilkenny hurling fans heading fro Croke Park.

For a wider diversion another alternative is to follow direction signs from Dublin, Carlow direction for Monart Destination Spa. This is located only about 1km from the New Ross Waterford road.

BTW the traffic backed up to the BMW/mini garage on the N11 is a regular occurence every Friday evening and most weekdays. The volumn of traffic has always been high but I think it has worsened since the Gorey Bypass opened. In my own opinion part of this may due to inadequate signage at the last junction on the N11 Gorey bypass(Junction 23) the Gorey/Ballycanew exit. Where heretofore some traffic took a left at the traffic lights in Gorey and headed down the coast road to Wexford they now land in Camolin before they realise they have passed the Wexford turnoff.

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