I seriously doubt that actual evolutionists believe they are apes. Even a 5 year old can tell the difference between an ape and a human. It really is shocking that primary, secondary and a college education was needed before you had that realisation.
More distorting of what people say.
for anyone who is interested, here's the complete quote that JC dishonestly presented in edited form:
Truly shameful stuff, JC.
and btw, you still have to explain why you dismissed the article about the worm being an ancestor to modern man.
... so how exactly do ye guys explain polystrate fossils ???
... or is is yet another Evolutionist miracle ... that just happened to happen ???
Nothing shameful about it ... the quote clearly states that Humans didn't come from Apes ... but that they are Apes.
If you recall, that was my original point (that I believed myself to be an Ape when I was an Evolutionist.
As ye are now saying that ye don't believe yourselves to be Apes ... this is another indication that ye are moving in the direction of Creationism ... and away from Evolutionism.
That was also my first step towards Creationism ... when I stopped believing that I was an Ape!!!
Welcome to the world of Creation Science ... but don't say anything to your fellow Evolutionists ... they tend to get very emotional if they are told that somebody is rejecting W2M Evolution.
Missing CFSI !!!!
Descended from a common ancestor, and not a silver-back in a suit.
It says that we're descended from a common ancestor.
Sorry, I'm not Christian and I've no plans to convert.
well first you best define what CFSI is, and I don't mean what each word means. I mean what the actual term means. And then you can explain what exactly is missing that backs up your claim.
... but it's nice to see that ye don't believe that ye are Apes ... progress in the direction of Creation Science at last!!!!
You have the freedom to choose to be Saved ... or lost.
CFSI is the stuff that causes the difference between a worm and a Human!!!
I'll take my third level education over the inane ramblings of cretinist nutjobs anyway, thanks.
But J C, surely even from a creationist viewpoint there must be some evidence that humans and apes are related. If all big cats (which can look quite different while sharing genetic and physical traits) came from the 'big cat baramin' or whatever the fuck you called it, then surely to be consistent you must also believe that humans and apes (which look quite different while sharing genetic and physical traits) are also related. Either that or you're just being inconsistant and picking and choosing when you want to bring any form of science into the debate.
Wait, actually, im starting to see a pattern here....
All this word twisting is getting a bit tiresome.
I'd say it's more likely your first step to creationism was when you got a blow to the head.
Which, as any sane person knows, isn't even a real thing.
No definition of cfsi in the last few of J C's posts.
It's official then- he has admitted he can't do it, and that Dembski was lying.
Many of the Cat species are interfertile to some degree and they all share an almost identical anatomy and body proprtions. Humans and Apes aren't interfertile to any degree ... and their anatomy and body proportions are distinctly different.
So the Creation Science position is objectively correct and consistent.
No argument ... just two more unfounded Ad Hominems.
Which makes more sense to a lot of people than the whole 'magically appeared out of thin air' argument put forward by your lot.
I don't think the word 'progress' should ever be used with the words 'creation science'
Yes J C we get it, you're scared of dying so you're kissing god's ring in the hope it gets you into the afterlife. Good luck with that. Meanwhile, I'll just enjoy my life.
Even for you that's a breathtakingly idiotic statement.
I wouldn't say unfounded.
How about the relationship between big cats and ehhhh....small cats then. They can't get it on. Are they related? Or did the big man just like the design so much he used it twice. Perhaps he was hungover one morning, couldn't really be arsed thinking up something new, and just said 'right, fuck it lads we'll just use this one again. But make it smaller. Yeah sure, that works'
You've avoided about 90% of the arguments put to you in this thread.
Koth seems to think that Evolutionists don't believe they are Apes ... and is shocked that even a 5 year old would believe such nonesense!!!
... whereas you seem to think that most people on the thread think they are Apes.
Ye really are a mixed up bunch of dudes ... not knowing your Apes from your elbows ... to coin a phrase!!!
Straight from the Richie Kavanagh school of comedy.
... do ye believe ye are Apes ... just like I said ... and if ye do what have ye been arguing about for the past two pages? ... or do ye not know your Apes from your elbows???
Wait until you become a Creation Scientist ... that will change your mind !!!
Why should I be scared? ... I'm Saved.
... now, if I were like you ... and still Lost ... I might be afraid ... very afraid!!!
No argument ... just another unfounded Ad Hominem.
... and CFSI is indeed the stuff that causes the difference between a worm and a Human!!!