For those of you who don't know the story -his uncle described him as that "loathsome nephew" and he is William Patrick Hitler.
His mother Bridget was Irish and from Dublin and her surname was Dowling and she was married to Alois - Hitlers Older Brother.After the war they changed the family name to Stuart-Houston and lived in New York.
Pa was working as a waiter in the Shelbourne Hotel , Stephens Green Dublin and met Ma in the RDS.
The graves are located at Holy Selpulchre Cemetary,Coram
New York, USA
Willie had a much nicer moustache than his uncle and seems to have been an alright guy.
Ever on the scrounge for a few votes DeValera paid his respects at German Embassy after Adolfs death. Well, the Dowlings could always be counted on.
For more on the saga check it out here
Ever wonder what happened the Earls after the Flight of the Earls -well when I was 8 and in second class it really used to bother me because I knew that flying up to the 20 th century had been dangerous.
Well they reached Rome and survived the Flight and are buried here
The tombs have been excavated and you can read more here
Courtesy of Marchdub for reminding us of some forgotten giants.
Sir William Wildes grave
Sir William Wildes grave in Mount Jerome
Oscar Wildes mothers grave
Jane Francesca "Speranza" Wilde
Original name: Jane Francesca Elgee
"Speranza" was her byline in "The Nation"
Oscars parents lives were not without scandal and they were embroilled in a costly libel case which they lost over Sir Williams seduction/assault of a colleagues daughter which was brought by his(Oscars) mother after which Sir William semi retired. Bio and details hereand the allegation was not generally believed by his colleagues.He also fathered several children outside his marriage.
The parallell with Oscars own case is striking. To quote Oscar
All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy.
No man does. That's his.
EDIT - Sir William had 3 natural children Henry Wilson, and Emily and Mary Wilde who all died tragically and he provided for them. The girls died in a fire. Henry was a surgeon like his father and they worked together
Emily & Mary died in a fire
In the link above you will see that Henry left the bulk of his estate to St Marks Hospital. Roughly speaking it was £10,000 split 3 ways £8,000 to St Marks Hospital (Eye ear & throat) £2,000 to Willie (Oscars older brother) and £100 to Oscar. Oscar was flirting with Catholicism at the time and Henry disapproved of this.
It looks very much like Henry was Sir Williams child and his lifestyle was very different to that of his half brothers. Jane , Wildes mother, by comparison was buried in a paupers grave.
While we are on the literary theme Mr Charlotte Bronte himself the Reverend Arthur Bell Nicholls is buried in Banagher Co Offally where he became a farmer after returning to Ireland following the death of Charlotte and her father.
The Honeymooned in Offally (the mad things)
More here http://www.strynaghs.ie/charlotte_bronte.html
Charlotte was intered in Howarth Church in Yorkshire
The shock for Charlotte was that she thought Arthur was a country bumpkin when the Nicholls family were at a level the Brontes probably aspired to.
Anyway, Arthur moved back to Ireland and married a nice Irish girl and was happy ever after.
*shudder I do not like the Bronte books- I hope it doesnt show*
All these were near contemporaries of Mary Jane Kelly who became in 1888 the fifth and last known victim of "Jack the Ripper" .
She was originally from Limerick but grew up in Wales.
It is worth noting that not all who emigrated had nice lives.
An account of the funeral
Archive Article from the London Times Here on the Whitechapel Murder
One of Irelands most facinating actresses ever.
My bit on Margaret Woffington
Napoleons Irish Doctors
He is buried in the Old Cemetary in Cobh.
He was not Napoleons only Irish Doctor in captivity- he also had Dr Barry O'Meara
Barry Edward O'Meara (1786-1836) was an Irish surgeon and founding member of the Reform Club, who accompanied Napoleon to St. Helena and became his physician, having been surgeon on board the Bellerophon when the emperor surrendered himself. He is remembered as the author of Napoleon in Exile, or A Voice From St. Helena (1822) a book which charged Sir Hudson Lowe with mistreating the former emperor and created no small sensation on its appearance.
He is buried in a vault at St Mary's Church Paddington Green London. Napoleon liked him and encouraged him to keep a diary for publication after Napoleons death as a way to make money.
This Irish guy was irish and a movie director in Hollywood before Talkies until he just gone and got himself killed in real life.
Los Angeles County
Plot: Cathedral Mausoluem, Crypt 594
<H2 align=center>The Unsolved Murder of William Desmond Taylor
William Desmond Taylor was a former actor turned director in early Hollywood. He was also one of the more colorful personalities of the time. But he is best remembered now for the manner of his death.</H2>
Taylor, whose real name was William Cunningham Deane-Tanner, was born April 26, 1872 in Ireland. He came to the United States in 1890 and worked in a variety of jobs before finding work as a bit part player on the New York stage, under the name Cunningham Deane. After marrying the daughter of a wealthy Wall Street broker, Taylor, with financial assistance from his father-in-law, set up an antique furniture business. Now known as "Pete" Tanner, Taylor became a popular member of New York society. Then suddenly in 1908, Tanner disappeared, deserting his wife and a young daughter. It was during this time that he took the name of William Desmond Taylor.
He made his break into films in 1915, appearing in several forgettable silent films before making his directorial debut in 1914 with "The Awakening". He directed more than forty films over the next seven years, taking a break to serve as a Captain in the Canadian Army during the latter part of World War I. He also served as president of the Motion Picture Directors Association.
On February 2, 1922, Taylor's body was found in his Hollywood home, a bullet in his back. Neighbors reported hearing a gunshot during the night. During the inquest that followed several witnesses came forward, reporting that they had seen a young, dark-haired man leaving Taylor's house the night of February 1, and one of them not only saw the man, but heard the shot that killed Taylor immediately before seeing the man. Despite a long list of potential suspects, nobody was ever arrested or tried for the crime.
What was the motive behind Taylor's murder? One interesting theory that came out at the inquest involved the woman Taylor was seeing at the time of his death, actress Mabel Normand. She was a cocaine user, and Taylor had gone to the federal government for help in stopping the pushers who were selling her drugs. Seeing their business threatened, this scenario goes, the pushers decided to hire a hit man to "silence" Taylor. Taylor had been a prominent member of the Hollywood set, giving and attending parties where liquor was served (this was during Prohibition), so the press made much of his so-called wild personal life.
Coming as it did on the heels of the Fatty Arbuckle scandal and the drug-related death of actor Wallace Reid, Taylor's murder spurred Hollywood to clean up its act. Will Hays became president of the newly formed Motion Picture Producers and Directors Association, and a new age of censorship and studio control was born in Hollywood. As an unsolved crime, Taylor's murder has continued to intrigue and tantalize people. Over the years, conspiracy theorists have drawn up a long list of potential suspects - both individuals and groups that may have had a hand in the killing. Most seem fairly outrageous, but the continuing fascination illustrates our enduring fascination with both crime and Hollywood.
Lady Hazel Lavery (1886 -1935) reputedly the lover of Michael Collins and society beauty.
She was described as a siren and a beautiful nuisance and married Sir John Lavery the artist 30 years her senior after they were both widowed.
Its impossible to say really if they were lovers given the circumstances and the Lavery's friendships with Winston Churchill and others andvthe Lavery's hosted the Irish delegation during the treaty negotiations. It probably is a myth -who knows.
So she is here for her face on the pound notes "porno for Paddies" and everyone loved her.
Her husband painted around 400 portraits of her.
Sir John 1856 -1941
She is buried in Putney Vale Cemetary in London. She predeceased her husband Sir John by 6 years and he died in 1941.
Sir John born in Belfast om 1856 was an official war artist in WWI
He also did a portrayal of Roger Casements trial
Samuel Beckett - Nobel Laureate, friend of James Joyce, sometime academic, existentualist, writer and author of Waiting for Godot.
(Beckett was a recuring character in Sean Hughes stand up comedy shows in the early 90's and who never appeared but used to leave messages on the ansaphone when Hughes was depressed and shoegazing.)
Anyway here is a bio
He is remembered chiefly for Waiting for Godot and was a modernist writer. He played with form and in Godot the characters have no future or past and are waiting for someone who does not appear. It is the foremost play of the Theatre of the Absurd.
Here is a review.
Beckett objected to women acting in the the play when all womens groups began to stage the play in the 60's with the response "women dont have prostates" .
There is a lot of symbolism in Becketts work - bicycles represent hope and there are no bicycles in Godot. There is a carrot in Waiting for Godot and academics try to work out the significance of it.
James Joyces daughter Lucia who was hospitalised for mental illness had a major crush on Beckett and when he didn't reciprocate precipitated a breakdown. So nowdays you will see that connection explored by academics and his own period undergoing therapy.
An intense and private man he met a french woman Suzzanne whom he was with for 50 years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanne_Dechevaux-Dumesnil
They died within months of each other in 1989 and are buried in Cimetière de Montparnasse Paris
Now I am not a fan but he is a hugely significant writer and disloke his writing for the same reasons I dont like Joyce and Checkov for instance.
He was a fairly nice man though with a sense of humour that is not evident in his writing IMO.
On his grave when asked about a gravestone he said in parody of Henry Ford " any colour as long as its grey"
Eamonn DeValeras mother Mrs Catherine Wheelwright ( Coll)
She died in 1932 and is buried in the Holy Sepulcher Cemetery. Rochester , New York with her husband Charles who died in 1929.
A nice bio is here and she had a son Thomas who became a priest.
It is the same graveyard that the Bishops of Rochester are buried in and this is its website listing the notables buried there
But I also found this.
Well his Dad has never been conclusively located and young Ed was sent back home and became Eddie Coll.Here is a summary of the attempts to trace his father.
I am inclined towards the view that DeV's mother was economical with the truth. I see no reason for her to register the child as DeValera etc if it were not so.I also imagine there were other factors, other than being born outside marriage too that could have occured.
Whatever it was Catherine wasn't talking and outside our natural curiosity she was right. Worst case scenarios could also have been desertion, poverty, insanity, arrest or whatever.
A few years back I was looking for the records of a nun born in Ireland and became a nun here and who ended up teaching in New York State. Now you would say a nun and religious orders we could chase down a grave and details of the location of the Irish Convent & well I couldn't.
This extract from Time Magazine in 1932
And his half brother Fr Thomas Wheelwright
Well here is an account of a visit to Boston in 1919 where they met publicly
<H1 class=firstHeading>Thomas Joseph Wheelwright b. December 1890 d. 22 July 1946
Lineage Wheelwright Sex Male Full name (at birth) Thomas Joseph Wheelwright Parents ♂ # Charles E. Wheelwright [Wheelwright] b. 1857? d. 28 December 1927
♀ # Catherine T. Coll [Coll] b. 23 December 1858 d. 12 June 1932
Reference numbers GEDCOM::510018.ged::INDI @I24893115@::Hailey C. Shannon Events
December 1890 birth: Manhatten
7 June 1916 ordination: Redemtorist Priest, Mt st Alphonsus, Esopus, NY
22 July 1946 death: Pennsylvania
According to US State Dept Archves, Father Wheelwright, CSSR, did much to help save his half-brother's life aftre the 1916 rebellion. Died in an automobile accident 1946 while taking another priest to the hosptial.
Richard "Dick" Monk Monaghon captain of the United Irish Insurgents in 1798 is buried in John St cemetary along with John Edward Redmond leader of the Irish Party at Westminster. Shame it's always locked up & impossible to see
Strongbow -the Earl of Pembroke married King Dermots daughter. Meanwhile I had spent years thinking thay McMurrough was the only one to do deals with the Normans which is not true.
Strongbow is burried in Christchurch Dublin
Anyway read who did what here.
Ousted King Dermot invited the Normans
By Peter Beresford
</I>In the late autumn of AD 1175 the scribe making an entry into the Annals of Clonmacnoise thought that he had good news to report to the people of Ireland.
“Cadhla Ó Dubhtaigh returned out of England from Henry FitzEmpress (Henry II), having obtained the peace of Ireland and the kingship of the same over both Foreigners and the Irish for Ruadrí Ó Conchobhair, and his kingdom and all provincial kings making tribute to Ruadrí as High King of Ireland.”
The scribe, who had taken over the task of keeping the annals up to date from Abbot Tighernach (c. 1020-1088), was either misinformed or was putting the best and most optimistic light on a bad situation.
It had been in 1169 when Norman adventures, at the invitation of the ousted King Dermot MacMorrough of Leinster, came to Ireland in order to put him back on the throne of his provincial kingdom.
Their leader, Richard FitzGilbert de Clare (nicknamed Strongbow) had married Dermot’s eldest daughter Aoife and thought this made him heir to Dermot’s kingdom. But the Irish law of succession did not allow for primogeniture. Kings had to be elected. Then in 1172 Henry II of the Angevin Empire came hot foot to Ireland in case Strongbow carved out an independent kingdom that might challenge his empire.
Although the High King, Ruadrí had managed to gain a few victories against the Normans, Ruadrí realised that he did not have the means to sustain a protracted campaign against the well-armed, centrally organised forces of the Normans. So he opened negotiations with Mylor FitzHenry, Henry II’s chief representative among the Normans in Ireland.
In 1175 Ruadrí appointed plenipotentiaries to go to meet Henry II who was ruler of the Angevin Empire with its capital at Anjou in Normandy. It is sometimes forgotten that England was then only a conquered province of that empire. Henry was neither born nor died in England and spent little time there. However, he agreed to meet the Irish negotiators at one of his castles in England — Windsor.
The Irish were led by Master Lawrence, described as the “Chancellor of the King of Connacht”. It is interesting that Lorcán, this was his Irish name, Chief Brehon to King Ruadrí, has been mistakenly identified as another Lorcán who also accompanied the Irish contingent. This other Lorcán was the Archbishop of Dublin (known today as St. Lawrence O’Toole). It is apparent in the text of the Treaty that they were two different people.
Archbishop Lawrence (c.1128-1180) was the son of The Ó Tuathail of Leinster. He signs the Treaty merely as a witness where it is clearly stated that he is “Archbishop”. The name of “Master Lawrence, Chancellor of the King of Connacht” appears as heading the negotiators at the top of the document.
His name appears with his fellow negotiators who are Cadhla Ó Dubhtaigh, the Archbishop of Tuam, and Cantordis, Abbot of Clonfert. Archbishop Cadhla is recognised as the senior ecclesiastic negotiator present who brings back “the peace” for Ireland.
Did the Treaty of Windsor, signed by the parties in the octaves of Michelmas (October 6) 1175, give peace to Ireland and recognise Ruadrí as remaining High King? The answer is no.
In fact, under the native Irish law system of the kingly successions, Ruadrí could not legally surrender his kingdom as High King. He had to abdicate his office and nowhere in the treaty is he referred to as High King. He is called King of Connacht, which royal line he came from before his appointment as High King. Ruadrí had been High King with much opposition among the other provincial kings.
The last native claimant of the High Kingship was from the Ulster kingdom, Brían Ó Néill. He became King of Ulster in 1241 and at a meeting of the Irish kings was elected High King of Ireland in 1258. He was killed in 1260 at the Battle of Downpatrick and his head was sent to London to be exhibited.
What the Treaty basically agreed was that the Ruadrí could remain as King of Connacht and King of any Irish territory over which he could exert authority that had not been conquered by the Normans. This was on condition that he pay feudal dues to Henry II who would now become Lord of Ireland and Ireland became part of the Angevin Empire.
Henry II, in his turn, had to pay feudal dues to the Pope who had encouraged and approved his conquest of Ireland. He had to pay a penny for every house in Ireland to the Papal coffers. This payment continued until May 15, 1213, when Pope Innocent III increased the annual tribute to 300 marks.
As for bringing peace in Ireland, more and more Norman adventurers arrived and began to carve out their own territories with sword and fire. The borders of the Irish provincial kingdoms were pressed back as the Kings fought to defend their territories. However, these Normans soon adopted the Irish language, Irish law and social customs.
Initially, the Irish people greeted The Treaty of 1175 with dismay and anger. Even in his own kingdom Ruadri found great opposition. He clung to power for 11 more years but, in 1186, was forced to abdicate as King of Connacht. He entered the monastery of Cong where he died in 1198.
One of his sons, Conor Moin, became King for three years and managed to inflict a major defeat on John de Courcy, the Angevin Viceroy. But in 1189 Conor was assassinated and after some period of instability, Ruadrí’s half-brother, Cathal Crobhderg (Cathal of the Wine Red Hand) was inaugurated as king at the traditional site of Carnfree. His reign was to last 23 years and he did much to stabilise the kingdom.
For almost 400 years, until 1541, the Irish kingdoms survived, if not with the same territories as they had in 1175 but with the same dynasties, laws and social structures. The Angevin Empire had vanished, England had asserted its independence and French was no longer the language of its ruling and middle classes.
Henry VIII not only broke with Rome but also announced that his title would be King of Ireland and no longer suzerain Lord of Ireland. He demanded the surrender of the titles and lands of the native Irish kings and their nobility. Should they surrender, they would be given English titles, agree to adopt the English language and English law.
The year 1541 saw the start of the real conquest of the Irish nation
Burke & Hare the movie is out soon and is being advertised on TV
Good thread; it got me wondering where Ó Néill, Ruairí Ó Dónaill and those who led the Irish side in the Nine Years War are buried.
A quick google and they appear to be buried in the church of San Pietro in Montorio in Rome.
Aodh Rua Ó Dónaill, on the other hand, appears to have been buried in The Franciscan Monastery in Valladolid, Spain
This appears to be the Franciscan Monastery in Valladolid today. And here's the Spanish branch of the Ó Dónaill family outside Valladolid in 2002.
Valladolid is in north-central Spain, here.