It only takes a poddle of water for an animal to get fluke. Fluke is a major problem every where.Fluke is the number one problem in animal health followed by IBR then BVD
Well yes, an animal could get a fluke, but your herd won't get it from a puddle
That is not true
I don't agree, but companies marketing vaccines would be very pleased to have created that impression re IBR & BVD.
Much hype, because they are fantastic diseases, cause tons of things you can't see, here buy a vaccine for magic fix, forget biosecurity, buy whatever you want from the mart. Joke.
been getting that feeling a lot lately
i'm saying nothing
Research has being carried by Teagasc that showed it takes a small amount of water for animals to get fluke.
I totally agree with the above and I'm not being sarcastic. There was a study done in UCD which compared sheep liver to cattle and they did find that cattle had tougher livers to sheep which meant that the fluke did not bore it as much. I have a link to it, I'll dig it up and pm you with it. They studied different ages and found younger cattle to be more prone as you said above.
I disagree with you on this point, In countries all over the world they are advising to the benefits of treating cattle for immature fluke. As I said in the last post, its not to prevent death but to promote thrive. As you said, you do it yourself, so you must see benefit from it.
Agree, but a lot of land in this country is heavy wet land. Impossible to choose areas to fence off. But I do think that if people operate a sendible dosing policy against fluke, they can keep it under control, no matter what type of land they have.
well how often should u dose them through the year if u are on wet ground and would lime or aerating the ground help get rid of them in any way
Just reading about fluke. Lost 5 weanling heifers last year with rumen fluke and the rest about 50 kg lighter than normal and i am on verydry land that burns off in summer. Also watch out dosing for fluke in cows and incalf heifers this year. New analysis of residues can show up doseing for 12 MONTHS! Not good for dairy stock as only Endofluke can be used currently according to my vet. So 2 doses per winter until rest of products get retested and approved. Enjoy
there was a dept of agriculture ad on page 2 of the farming indo this week and i meant to go back and read it BUT the paper went in the recylcing bin , did anyone readit and is anyone any the wiser on what we can use on dairy cows
I didn't see the Farming Indo notice, but this is the Glanbia list from last March - has there been any change since that date?
Re: Certain Flukicidal Products – Clarification/Change in use in animals intended for Milk for Human Consumption
Attached please find Notice from the Irish Medicines Board regarding updating of Invermectin and certain flukicidal products.
Recent advances in analytical technology developed by the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (DAFF) for monitoring of foodstuffs have called into question the precision of the labelling instructions of certain flukicidal veterinary medicines.*The veterinary medicines concerned contain clorsulon, closantel, nitroxynil, rafoxanide and triclabendazole used in dairy animals intended for milk production.*
As a prudent measure, the IMB is advising that veterinary medicines containing these substances should NOT be administered to animals producing milk for human consumption, including pregnant animals intended to produce milk for human consumption.
MEDICINES THAT CAN CONTINUE TO BE USED WITH STRICT ADHERENCE TO WITHDRAWAL PERIODS INDICATED
Name of product
Endospec 10% SC
Endospec 2.5% SC
Osmonds Flexiben 10% SC
MEDICINES NOT TO BE ADMINISTERED TO COWS/IN-CALF HEIFERS
Name of product
Active substance involved in IMB decision
Flukiver 5 Injection
Closiver for cattle
Closamectin Pour on
Chan Broad Spec
Rafazole Oral Suspension
Univet Multidose Fluke and Worm
Panafluke Oral Suspension
Fasinex Super 19.5%
Triclaben 10% for cattle
Tribex 10% for cattle
Glanbia Milk March 2010
got a bill from osmonds with a flyer in it , theres a rumen fluke treatment which also does for worms called pharmazan . dont know the suitability for dairy cows
You can still use Zanil by the looks of it. And Levafas Diamond too.
I reckon I've lost 2 cows to rumen fluke in the last year. Both were treated for everything 3 or 4 times.
This Spring I had another cow going in the wrong direction with a persistent scour so I got the vet who suspected rumen fluke and we sent samples to the lab (tested for the other usuals as well). Now the cow was on death's door so she got another course of antibiotics, levafas diamond (I couldn't get zanil) and copper (black cattle had the typical rusty colouring of the coat).
The lab results came back with evidence of rumen fluke eggs and borderline/ low copper levels. The cow recovered. I had dosed and injected a few others I wasn't happy with and they improved as well. So then I was left wondering was it rumen fluke or Copper.
Sure enough about 2 months later she started scouring again, and one 2yo heifer I was unhappy with started deteriorating again. I dosed them both 3 weeks ago with Levafas diamond only and within 4/5 days they were well on the way. (Of course I was supposed to repeat the dose after 3 days but just didn't have the time to do it! The down side of part time farming)
Rumen fluke QED!
It's oxyclozanide (or oxyclosanide as Glanbia spell it above). So it will kill rumen fluke too.
Look at 4.11 Withdrawal periods. Not to be used in dairy cows. It's the same ingredients as Levafas Diamond. That isn't allowed in dairy cows either, even though it only has a 5 day meat withdrawal.