Doing some research on upgrading the machine. Does anyone know or have a link that has information on Campagnolo sets and where they compare to Shimano.
In other words what is the Camp equivalent of Tiagra, 105, Ultegra, Dura Ace etc...
Have a few models in mind but some have the Shimano sets and some have the Camp sets.
It is a religious question and especially so given the recent upgrades. So are you comparing Campagnolo 11 speed with the new Ultegra 6700/DA 7900 etc.
End of the day it is very difficult to get any concrete view on this.
Here's a view to kick things off, I may need to go to bed before this thread really gets going:
Di2 (of course)
Super Record = Record (only difference is some weight weenism) = Dura Ace 7900
10sp Record = Dura Ace 7800
11sp Chorus = Ultegra 6700
One comparison you can make between Shimano and Campagnolo equipment is by comparing prices for groupsets and individual items. There are also differences in terms of availability of triple and compact setups between the manufacturers.
At the end of the day, IMHO, it probably comes down to personal preference in particular concerning the type and design of the brake / gear levers which, as you know, are quite different one from another.
There are no DIRECT comparisons between different manufacturers, really all you can compare is weight and price.
How much are you able to spend on groupset? What do you like about your shimano setup and what bugs you about it?
But only one brand goes to 11
To be honest the main issue between groupsets is how comfortable you find the shifter hood.
Another factor to consider is replacement parts. Campy seem to be pretty expensive, especially if you go for something super exotic like super record. 350 euro for a spare cassette on CRC!
If you aren't racing, concerned about weight or snob factor but still want a great groupset (which oddly would still be suited for all the above), Ultegra 6700, Campagnolo Athena or SRAM Force are all around the same price. It really boils down to functional preferences about shifting, aesthetics and comfort then.
That's all in the link, I just didn't want to go quoting something I hope he was going to read
Did I read somewhere that the chain tool needed for the Campy 11 speed is a bit spendy?
Edit: Computer says yes...
...are cheaper versions available (yet)?
I never said spendy was a bad thing - I was just worried about cheaper versions undermining the euro-chic of the original tool. Ahem...
Comparing Shimano to Campagnolo is like comparing a Toyota to Ferrari.
Di2 - Super record
Dura Ace - Record
Ultegra - Chorus
105 - Athena
tiagra - Centaur
Sora - Veloce
[goes to make pop corn, and fetch worms]
You mean like on the motorway both can only legally do 120kmph ... but on the quays you look like a tool doing 30kmph in the Ferrari ...
The answer to your question is SRAM.