thanks, i'll do that to all ten of my houses, what about my castle in de countryside, at tips for that?
Have the same problem, have water in the house just the shower wont work? Anyone have any ideas?
Whip the servants harder, as they attempt to flee, they'll generate enough heat to keep your draughty ol' castle warm.
On a more serious note - when looking for a shovel yesterday I discovered my water supply goes through the garage - in a pipe that prior to yesterday was not insulated (muppet builders)
what is the logic of leaving the attic door open to prevent frozen pipes? I tried it today and it does work but I haven't a clue why? Thanks
the heat from the house rises easily into attic.
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our gas boiler stopped working today, its a Worcester Greenstar condensing gas boiler, I rang 2 numbers from the golden pages but they were not interested,
then I looked up the Worcester web page they had a link to some FAQ's for boiler problems in cold weather..one of the issues with condensing boilers is that they have a condensate water drain from the boiler which normally goes to the nearest drain by plastic pipe, this can freeze and cause the boiler to stop working, even though our pipe was lagged it was indeed frozen, I disconnected the pipe from the boiler and rigged a temporary drain to our kitchen sink,the boiler is working fine now, there is only a slight trickle from the pipe and I will fix a more permanent drain when the cold spell is over.
Its worth checking this if you are having trouble with one of the newer condensing boilers
At last an informed voice (sounds like it anyway...)
Q. My pipes are frozen outside (feed pipe underground)
1/ Anything i can do bout that?
2/ Is it best to conserve the water tank water as it may be all i have, by closing off the upstairs dripping tap, or might this action increase the risk of frozen pipes upstairs?
PS Does an electric shower run off the water from attic tank or from mains? (I'm guessing tank)
Please marty. Dont talk nonsence.
Put your hand on a 100 watt bulb when its on and tell me theres no heat from it.
Its not about "warming" your attic, its about placing a bulb in your attic near pipes that need to be kept from freezing, a mere degree or more in incresed overall heat of that area will prevent hard freezing.
Its no myth
By "downstairs tap" I believe the contributor was referring to the incoming tap from the mains (in the kitchen, normally). Leaving this running reduces the chances of the water from the mains freezing (because running water less likely to freeze as it passes through the cold spots on your domestic connection).
Leaving an upstairs tap would also draw water from the mains, but in batches only as the tank fills from the mains only when the level falls low enough to open the ballcock valve. The unsteady flow of water increases the chances of freezing, and the noise of the tank filling every few minutes may interrupt your sleep.
But running taps wastes a scarce resource, and we might all be left without water if everyone did this. Worse again if your drains freeze the running tap may flood your house quietly while you sleep.
Check your mains supply pipes for exposed sections. These are typically around the stopcock, or the pipes near your sink (inside or out). If you have exposed pipework outside then insulate them with a non-absorbent insulating material (like packing foam). If you have exposed pipework inside the house make sure the area doesn't get too cold.
Re opening the attic door.... this will stop the incoming pipe to your tank freezing but at the expense of making your house cold. Insulating the pipes is a better option. In the short term if you can't get insulation for this right now, the 100W light bulb, placed near to the pipes, should be sufficient to avoid freezing temperatures there, but don't let anything cover the bulb, and don't leave the bulb near anything which could melt or catch fire.
Remember it's the PIPES which you are worried about, not the TANK. It will be a cold month in hell before the tank can freeze. Also a frozen tank will recover without doing damage, but a frozen pipe is very likely to burst as the water expands below 4 degrees centigrade.
Stay warm and dry this winter,
Use hot water bottle if frozen, as been said be a light bulb is for light, if they were that great for heating we would not have rads and could stop using the fire.
There's two ways of connecting these devices, so it could be fed from either the mains or the tank. The most common way is to connect it from the tank.
Re "outdoor" pipes frozen... check that it's not just the last few feet indoors that's doing the damage.... try using a hairdryer on the pipes near the sink.
Conserve your water, don't run it out through your taps. If the blockage is outside then running your water will not help, not even slightly. You may be able to survive on bottled water, but you'll be wanting to flush the toilet!
No i was not talking about the mains. I was refering to the downstairs bathroom tap which if plumbed correctly takes its feed from the attic tank.
Because this is the lowest point on the plumbing system from the attic its its also the furthest point the water has to travel through the house.The tank in the attic may also recover but the joints of the fittings may not.
and for the second part folks I also said I did not rec it but if it means the difference between you and your sleep tonight I would rather leave the water running.
The only real contrabution I gave was to say
Do not leave the attic door open. Especially on modern houses where the facia boards are not sealed as this will cause pnuemonia in the house
Use a 100w light bulb to take the chill out of the attic.
again for those that wont read my post. I dont condone leaving taps running.