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I'll stick this thread up as a sticky. It seems a popular route for Irish people to take. So, I'll leave it here and see if anyone wants to chat about it. If not I'll unsticky it if it's not used.

So, if you are, or if you're planning on, studying med,dentistry and veterinary in one of the Eastern European unis, feel free to discuss it here.

mrmeindl Registered User
#2

I'm in Prague, 2nd year med, I know a few dentists out here too, If someone has any serious questions about studying here just go on ahead.

If the questions are along the lines of "my uncles cousins dog trainer friend said that Prague is ****" I wont waste the time replying.

#3

What's the entrance process like?

Do you know any people who've finished their training and got onto training schemes in Ireland?

How do you find living there? Somewhere like prague must be pretty amazing to live in? What do you do for accommodation?

#4

mrmeindl said:
I'm in Prague, 2nd year med, I know a few dentists out here too, If someone has any serious questions about studying here just go on ahead.

If the questions are along the lines of "my uncles cousins dog trainer friend said that Prague is ****" I wont waste the time replying.

do we need to know their language for the clinicals? or can we transfer to somewhere like UCC UCD etc, or some carbien schools after the first 2 years?

#5

ok guys, we dont need jibes and sniping here.
i've deleted a few posts, please keep the thread on topic from now on.

mrmeindl Registered User
#6

tallaght01 said:
What's the entrance process like?

Do you know any people who've finished their training and got onto training schemes in Ireland?

How do you find living there? Somewhere like prague must be pretty amazing to live in? What do you do for accommodation?



Entrance process for most of the facultys is mostly the same; Entrance exam at A level standard in Physics, Biology and Chemistry, sometimes there's an interview I believe, I didn't have one. They also look at your LC results, I dont think they really care. I repeated once back home, didn't get in and I was not interested in repeating again. Its (relatively) easy to get in but its sure as hell not easy to stay in. Attrition rate is very high, eg 64 in first year in 07-08 there's less than 30 in 3rd year now.

There are 2 lads who did their GP training in the UK; one is doing the locum thing at the moment, not sure about the other. One lad graduated last year from the 1st Fac and is in FY1 in Scotland at the mo because of nepotism bull**** he couldn’t get a place for his internship back home. Hopefully I’ll manage to get an internship in Ireland, don’t really fancy spending 2 years in the UK.
Prague itself is a deadly city; it’s a completely different experience to studying at home in Dublin. Most of the people in my faculty are Scandinavians so you get to know people all over the world and you end up with some pretty cool places to visit during the summer if you can. Nightclubs don’t close till around 6 on average, and drink is dirt cheap. Being that we don’t go out as much as our counterparts in the motherland because of the amount of tests/exams we have.
We(all the paddys at least) rent apartments, rent is pretty similar to what a student back home will pay but the apartment will be a hell of a lot nicer than the student houses i’ve crashed in back home. I pay roughly €80-90 per week.


imported_guy said:
do we need to know their language for the clinicals? or can we transfer to somewhere like UCC UCD etc, or some carbien schools after the first 2 years?


You need to have sufficient czech by third year to be able to ask the patients questions. You have 2 czech classes a week in 1st thru 3rd year. I'm not aware of anyone who's transferred back to Ireland, there is a the odd transfer between the different facultys. People who fail tend to go transfer somewhere easier eg Poland.

Aren't the carribean schools the joke places where the degree is only accepted in Zimbabwe?

Anthony16 Registered User
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mrmeindl said:
Entrance process for most of the facultys is mostly the same; Entrance exam at A level standard in Physics, Biology and Chemistry, sometimes there's an interview I believe, I didn't have one. They also look at your LC results, I dont think they really care. I repeated once back home, didn't get in and I was not interested in repeating again. Its (relatively) easy to get in but its sure as hell not easy to stay in. Attrition rate is very high, eg 64 in first year in 07-08 there's less than 30 in 3rd year now.

There are 2 lads who did their GP training in the UK; one is doing the locum thing at the moment, not sure about the other. One lad graduated last year from the 1st Fac and is in FY1 in Scotland at the mo because of nepotism bull**** he couldn’t get a place for his internship back home. Hopefully I’ll manage to get an internship in Ireland, don’t really fancy spending 2 years in the UK.
Prague itself is a deadly city; it’s a completely different experience to studying at home in Dublin. Most of the people in my faculty are Scandinavians so you get to know people all over the world and you end up with some pretty cool places to visit during the summer if you can. Nightclubs don’t close till around 6 on average, and drink is dirt cheap. Being that we don’t go out as much as our counterparts in the motherland because of the amount of tests/exams we have.
We(all the paddys at least) rent apartments, rent is pretty similar to what a student back home will pay but the apartment will be a hell of a lot nicer than the student houses i’ve crashed in back home. I pay roughly €80-90 per week.




You need to have sufficient czech by third year to be able to ask the patients questions. You have 2 czech classes a week in 1st thru 3rd year. I'm not aware of anyone who's transferred back to Ireland, there is a the odd transfer between the different facultys. People who fail tend to go transfer somewhere easier eg Poland.

Aren't the carribean schools the joke places where the degree is only accepted in Zimbabwe?


How many paddys are in your faculty?

mrmeindl Registered User
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Anthony16 said:
How many paddys are in your faculty?



9 and we have 1 or 2 people who come from Ireland but aren't Irish. There's roughly another 12 between the other 2 Fac's and dentists.

Anthony16 Registered User
#9

mrmeindl said:
9 and we have 1 or 2 people who come from Ireland but aren't Irish. There's roughly another 12 between the other 2 Fac's and dentists.


And is the degree accepted in the US?Do you know of anyone who is doing residency there having completed medicine in prague?I ask this as irealise that if i do medicine in eastern europe i most likely wont be able to return to ireland or the uk

src Registered User
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Anthony16 said:
And is the degree accepted in the US?Do you know of anyone who is doing residency there having completed medicine in prague?I ask this as irealise that if i do medicine in eastern europe i most likely wont be able to return to ireland or the uk


I know that medical degrees from Hungary are accepted in Ireland, in the UK and in the US as well.

Also, as far as I know, Norway now does not train medical doctors in Norway, but they send the students to Hungarian Medical Schools. (to Budapest and Debrecen)

Anthony16 Registered User
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src said:
I know that medical degrees from Hungary are accepted in Ireland, in the UK and in the US as well.

Also, as far as I know, Norway now does not train medical doctors in Norway, but they send the students to Hungarian Medical Schools. (to Budapest and Debrecen)


Where did you find this info?Are you in a foreign medical school?Thanks

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Sitric Registered User
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There are four medical schools in Norway: Oslo, Bergen, Tromso and Trondheim. There may be one in Stavanger too but i'm not sure.

mrmeindl Registered User
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Anthony16 said:
And is the degree accepted in the US?


Yes. You still have to do usmle's and the step 1&2, the same applies if you come from an irish college.

Anthony16 said:
Do you know of anyone who is doing residency there having completed medicine in prague?


Yes.


Anthony16 said:
I ask this as irealise that if i do medicine in eastern europe i most likely wont be able to return to ireland or the uk

I'm definitely coming home after, as are most of the paddys here. Its news to me that I wont be able to work in Ireland. I'm prepared to bring people to court for the sake of fairness if I'm not able to secure an internship in Ireland.

mrmeindl Registered User
#14

src said:
I know that medical degrees from Hungary are accepted in Ireland, in the UK and in the US as well.


They'd be accepted to the same level as any other degree from an EU country.

src said:
Also, as far as I know, Norway now does not train medical doctors in Norway,


100% incorrect

src said:
but they send the students


Wrong again. Norway does not "send" students abroad to study the students simply apply to whatever college that is recognised and they get the same amount of government support as their colleagues studying in Norway.

src said:
to Hungarian Medical Schools. (to Budapest and Debrecen)
There's a lot in Prague, Hradec Kralove, Brno, Plzen, and Poland too.

Pete4779 Registered User
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mrmeindl said:

I'm definitely coming home after, as are most of the paddys here. Its news to me that I wont be able to work in Ireland. I'm prepared to bring people to court for the sake of fairness if I'm not able to secure an internship in Ireland.


You will be able to work in Ireland but finding a job may be another issue.

http://www.medicalcouncil.ie/registration/firsttime2_internship.asp#2

It's pretty straightforward from above to register for Intern on the new Trainee Specialist register. That is *only* valid for Internship. As you can see, they have different procedures from Irish medical schools and EU/EEA schools. There are far more graduates from the five schools than places. If you are planning on returning to Ireland I would recommend doing observerships, etc., here as much as possible.

As such, there is no "right" to internship and so you will be suing no-one . Basically, you will be competing for spots against local graduates who will have relevant local experience. This makes it similar to the US and why people in Carribean schools do electives, etc., in the US to improve their CV.

If you get fully registered in another EU state however, you could then look to transfer that to Ireland if you get a place on a speciality training scheme. The new Medical Practitioners Act has made things much more ....comprehensive....(!) then before, and registration will be much more regulated, and for what purpose, etc., .

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